I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.


Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

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On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:12:47 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Not rechargeable, but I like the Logitech M705 cordless mouse. It can
use either one or two AA batteries, and in my experience, two batteries
give me a little over two years of use at about 10-14 hours a day on
most days. Logitech claims 3 years on two batteries, but I suspect
they've based that on a more reasonable usage model. The mouse has an
LED that glows red, well in advance, to warn you when the batteries are
getting low. I get at least 4-6 months of warning, plenty of time to
make sure I've got new batteries available.

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knuttle wrote:

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

When the rubber coating on my previous mouse went "gungy" I looked for
another with re-chargeable battery, but the one I bought uses a single
AA non-rechargeable and hasn't required a new battery so far since the
start of December ... Logi M650L ... which fits large hands quite well.

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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

As others also mentioned, a mouse with a non-rechargeable battery can
last very, very long.

Another datapoint: My wife's Logitech M220 (part of a MK295 Silent
Wireless (Keyboard and Mouse) Combo). Uses one AA battery which already
lasts for 10 months.

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Earlier, I wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

As others also mentioned, a mouse with a non-rechargeable battery can
last very, very long.

Another datapoint: My wife's Logitech M220 (part of a MK295 Silent
Wireless (Keyboard and Mouse) Combo). Uses one AA battery which already
lasts for 10 months.

Oops, make that 18 months (and new glasses? [1]).

[1] My font shows a zero as an 'O' with a dot in the middle, which makes
it somewhat similar to an eight.

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Frank Slootweg wrote:

My font shows a zero as an 'O' with a dot in the middle, which makes
it somewhat similar to an eight.

IBM 3270 fanboi?

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On 13-Jun-23 10:12 AM, knuttle wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged  tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Regardless of what kind of wireless mouse, go with a rechargeable one,
or ideally, one that takes batteries. Nothing stopping you from using rechargeable AA batteries.

Not related to mouses, but I've used an xbox 360 controller for PC
gaming since the 360 came out. I only had to buy a replacement
controller twice, after suffering from mechanical failure. Always used energizer AA batteries rechargeable.

Though on the note of rechargeable batteries, I would avoid any ones
(even brand name duracell or energizer) that are 'fast charging'. I once
had a charger which had its own cooling fan. It could charge the
batteries up in ~half hour, but I always noticed that batteries that I
used with that charger didn't last as long as those which I only charged
with a slow charger.

Regardless, reusable batteries last longer and hold more charge than
dollar store no-name batteries. Would always use them when I can. You
save more in the long run imho rather than needing to buy a big bin of
cheap batteries.

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

My font shows a zero as an 'O' with a dot in the middle, which makes
it somewhat similar to an eight.

IBM 3270 fanboi?

No, never used any IBM stuff.

I use a CUI (Character/'Console' UI) newsreader (tin) in a (Windows)
Command Prompt window [1] with the Font set to Raster Fonts. Don't ask
me why I set this font, because I probably set it two decades ago.

[1] With the Windows 11 'terminal application' set to 'Windows Console
Host', instead of the .. <barf> .. "modern Windows Terminal experience".

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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Since your unidentified mouse is probably still under warranty after
just 3 months from purchase, and if it wasn't your rough handling that
broke the USB connector in the mouse (i.e., the USB connector was
defective), why not return it for a warranty replacement? Possibly you
could return the mouse to a local store to eliminate lag in getting a replacement.

For the vast majority of breakage of USB ports, the cause is rough
handling by the user, especially after a short stint of just 3 months.
No matter which USB-connected mouse you get, seems like you'll be
breaking that one, too.

Perhaps you should get one with removable rechargeable batteries. Those recharge in an external charger. Even when you later break the cover
plate over the battery compartment, you could use duct tape to keep the batteries inside the mouse. Get a battery-powered mouse that uses
compressible metal contacts; else, you could end up breaking springs
holding the mice in the compartment, too.

The removable batteries don't need to be rechargeable. You could use
alkaline batteries to toss when they get used up to replace with new
ones. You can get a 48-pack of Energizer AA batteries for $25.94 (54
cents per battery) at Walmart. Lithiums of same brand and seller cost 4
times more. With alkalines, you can replace and immediately use the
mouse. With rechargeables, you'll have to wait until they charge which
means the mouse is out of commission, unless you get 2 sets of
rechargeables (one set in the mouse, one set already charged awaiting a
swap out). I gave up on recharging lithium batteries for cordless mice,
and went to much cheaper alkalines. Eventually I gave up on cordless
mice since they have longer latency than corded mice, and they don't go
flaky or die right when I'm doing something important. But then I use a
corded PS/2 mouse since PS/2 is interrupt driven instead of the polling interval of USB connected receivers for cordless devices.

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency

Excepting user abuse, why not get another of the same brand and type,
and return the current mouse for warranty replacement. You won't be
without a mouse, and when you get the replacement then you'll have 2
cordless mice. You won't need to connect the mouse to a USB port on
your computer, because you'll have a 2nd cordless mouse that has already
been charged while using the 1st cordless mouse. No battery swapping
(except eventually when the batteries die since they're chemical), and
no dealing with a cord to charge the mouse you're currently using.

As for suggestions on replacement mice, we would only know what YOU are
looking for if you actually identified which brand and model of cordless
mouse you are currently using. Someone suggesting a super-expensive
gamer mouse with umpteen buttons would likely be outside the criteria of
what you want in a cordless mouse, have a longer learning curve, and be
outside your budget. Some might suggest a trackball-style of mouse, so
the mouse doesn't move all around the desk or off a mouse pad; however,
I found non-captive trackballs to be too loose (they bounce in the
cradle under sudden direction change), and captive trackballs to have
too much friction (they won't keep spinning after you flick or snap the
ball). I detest trackpads, but some folks like them. Knowing what you
have now gives respondents some idea of what is YOUR criteria for a
mouse.

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On 06/13/2023 4:25 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Since your unidentified mouse is probably still under warranty after
just 3 months from purchase, and if it wasn't your rough handling that
broke the USB connector in the mouse (i.e., the USB connector was
defective), why not return it for a warranty replacement? Possibly you
could return the mouse to a local store to eliminate lag in getting a replacement.

For the vast majority of breakage of USB ports, the cause is rough
handling by the user, especially after a short stint of just 3 months.
No matter which USB-connected mouse you get, seems like you'll be
breaking that one, too.

Perhaps you should get one with removable rechargeable batteries. Those recharge in an external charger. Even when you later break the cover
plate over the battery compartment, you could use duct tape to keep the batteries inside the mouse. Get a battery-powered mouse that uses compressible metal contacts; else, you could end up breaking springs
holding the mice in the compartment, too.

The removable batteries don't need to be rechargeable. You could use alkaline batteries to toss when they get used up to replace with new
ones. You can get a 48-pack of Energizer AA batteries for $25.94 (54
cents per battery) at Walmart. Lithiums of same brand and seller cost 4 times more. With alkalines, you can replace and immediately use the
mouse. With rechargeables, you'll have to wait until they charge which
means the mouse is out of commission, unless you get 2 sets of
rechargeables (one set in the mouse, one set already charged awaiting a
swap out). I gave up on recharging lithium batteries for cordless mice,
and went to much cheaper alkalines. Eventually I gave up on cordless
mice since they have longer latency than corded mice, and they don't go
flaky or die right when I'm doing something important. But then I use a corded PS/2 mouse since PS/2 is interrupt driven instead of the polling interval of USB connected receivers for cordless devices.

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency

Excepting user abuse, why not get another of the same brand and type,
and return the current mouse for warranty replacement. You won't be
without a mouse, and when you get the replacement then you'll have 2
cordless mice. You won't need to connect the mouse to a USB port on
your computer, because you'll have a 2nd cordless mouse that has already
been charged while using the 1st cordless mouse. No battery swapping
(except eventually when the batteries die since they're chemical), and
no dealing with a cord to charge the mouse you're currently using.

As for suggestions on replacement mice, we would only know what YOU are looking for if you actually identified which brand and model of cordless mouse you are currently using. Someone suggesting a super-expensive
gamer mouse with umpteen buttons would likely be outside the criteria of
what you want in a cordless mouse, have a longer learning curve, and be outside your budget. Some might suggest a trackball-style of mouse, so
the mouse doesn't move all around the desk or off a mouse pad; however,
I found non-captive trackballs to be too loose (they bounce in the
cradle under sudden direction change), and captive trackballs to have
too much friction (they won't keep spinning after you flick or snap the ball). I detest trackpads, but some folks like them. Knowing what you
have now gives respondents some idea of what is YOUR criteria for a
mouse.

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement. Yes,
I know that batteries differ. But I have used brand name and the store
brand of batteries with the same results.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the
cord. I am not rough on my mice.

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On 6/13/2023 5:32 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 06/13/2023 4:25 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged  tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.

Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Since your unidentified mouse is probably still under warranty after
just 3 months from purchase, and if it wasn't your rough handling that
broke the USB connector in the mouse (i.e., the USB connector was
defective), why not return it for a warranty replacement?  Possibly you
could return the mouse to a local store to eliminate lag in getting a
replacement.

For the vast majority of breakage of USB ports, the cause is rough
handling by the user, especially after a short stint of just 3 months.
No matter which USB-connected mouse you get, seems like you'll be
breaking that one, too.

Perhaps you should get one with removable rechargeable batteries.  Those
recharge in an external charger.  Even when you later break the cover
plate over the battery compartment, you could use duct tape to keep the
batteries inside the mouse.  Get a battery-powered mouse that uses
compressible metal contacts; else, you could end up breaking springs
holding the mice in the compartment, too.

The removable batteries don't need to be rechargeable.  You could use
alkaline batteries to toss when they get used up to replace with new
ones.  You can get a 48-pack of Energizer AA batteries for $25.94 (54
cents per battery) at Walmart.  Lithiums of same brand and seller cost 4
times more.  With alkalines, you can replace and immediately use the
mouse.  With rechargeables, you'll have to wait until they charge which
means the mouse is out of commission, unless you get 2 sets of
rechargeables (one set in the mouse, one set already charged awaiting a
swap out).  I gave up on recharging lithium batteries for cordless mice,
and went to much cheaper alkalines.  Eventually I gave up on cordless
mice since they have longer latency than corded mice, and they don't go
flaky or die right when I'm doing something important.  But then I use a
corded PS/2 mouse since PS/2 is interrupt driven instead of the polling
interval of USB connected receivers for cordless devices.

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency

Excepting user abuse, why not get another of the same brand and type,
and return the current mouse for warranty replacement.  You won't be
without a mouse, and when you get the replacement then you'll have 2
cordless mice.  You won't need to connect the mouse to a USB port on
your computer, because you'll have a 2nd cordless mouse that has already
been charged while using the 1st cordless mouse.  No battery swapping
(except eventually when the batteries die since they're chemical), and
no dealing with a cord to charge the mouse you're currently using.

As for suggestions on replacement mice, we would only know what YOU are
looking for if you actually identified which brand and model of cordless
mouse you are currently using.  Someone suggesting a super-expensive
gamer mouse with umpteen buttons would likely be outside the criteria of
what you want in a cordless mouse, have a longer learning curve, and be
outside your budget.  Some might suggest a trackball-style of mouse, so
the mouse doesn't move all around the desk or off a mouse pad; however,
I found non-captive trackballs to be too loose (they bounce in the
cradle under sudden direction change), and captive trackballs to have
too much friction (they won't keep spinning after you flick or snap the
ball).  I detest trackpads, but some folks like them.  Knowing what you
have now gives respondents some idea of what is YOUR criteria for a
mouse.

OP:  I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly  need replacement.  Yes,
I know that batteries differ.  But I have used brand name and the store brand of batteries with the same results.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the
cord.  I am not rough on my mice.

I have a logitech M330 and get a few months or so out of copper top
batteries.

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On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:32:34 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement. Yes,
I know that batteries differ. But I have used brand name and the store
brand of batteries with the same results.

I don't know, but I think changing batteries every 2+ years isn't a big
burden. YMMV.

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On 6/13/2023 5:32 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 06/13/2023 4:25 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse

OP:  I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery wireless mice is that the batteries constantly  need replacement.  Yes, I know that batteries differ.  But I have used brand name and the store brand of batteries with the same

results.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord.  I am not rough on my mice.

What is the make and model of the mouse ?

Paul

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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement. Yes,
I know that batteries differ. But I have used brand name and the store
brand of batteries with the same results.

Regardless of what type of connection technology is used (RF or
Bluetooth), there still has to be a battery inside the mouse to power
it. It's not like self-winding watches that wind up with movement.
Without you identifying the brand and model of mouse you have, there's
no way for anyone to determine what type of rechargeable battery is
inside that mouse (Lithium, NiMH, NiCad, rechargeable alkaline, etc).
Hard to believe that mouse maker has some magic elixir for electrolyte
that makes it internal non-serviceable battery last longer than any
replaceable rechargeable battery. I suspect you're neglecting to
account for how often you have to cord that cordless mouse to charge it.

How often were you cording your cordless mouse to your computer to
charge the mouse? That's probably how often you'd be swapping
batteries, too. So, you attach the USB cable to the mouse and computer,
and endure the hassle of a cord which is the reason you got rid of a
corded mouse. Or you could swap batteries (or even another cordless
mouse) to continue using a mouse without the hassle of being corded. If
I were using cordless mice, I wouldn't layout my work area to account
for use of a cord with resistance to move around, flex around objects,
get tangled, and so on. Why get a cordless mouse only to suffer
irregular periods when it has to be corded?

Yeah, I've used cordless mice (and ALL of them have some type of battery
inside since they cannot obtain power from a PS2 or USB port unless
connected for recharging), and have been disappointed in up-time. I
never get what others claim to get for up-time on a full charge, or what
the mouse maker claims. If I can go corded, that's my preference. No
dying or going flaky when I must use the mouse, no having to connect to recharge, no having to swap batteries. But corded usually means a fixed location for the computer, and unrestricted routing of the cord to avoid resistance to movement of the cord. With tablets, notebooks, and
smartphones I don't use a mouse or keyboard. With laptops, yeah, I want
a mouse and notebook when there is someplace to use them alongside the
laptop. For desktops, cordless devices are a nuisance.

If you identify your brand and model of mouse, others can suggest
similar mice as alternatives if you're intent on getting something else. Knowing what you have gives others an idea of your criteria for choosing
a mouse, or you could delineate your criteria here. Whether I consider
it a good choice for myself, I could, for example, suggest:

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.910-005447.html

However, that's a right-handed mouse, and you don't identify if you want
a left-handed or ambidextrous mouse. We don't know shape you want, or
how big is the hand grip (portable mice tend to be too small to make
them more easily fit in a laptop bag), or if you want more than a
3-button mouse, or you want a trackball mouse (big roller either
non-captive or captive style), or ... and the list of criteria goes on.
Sorry, but there is no favorite amongst all potential respondents to
your query that would satisfy what YOU want in a pointing device. Your
request is nebulous.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the
cord. I am not rough on my mice.

But you are obviating the advantage of cordless when you have to go
corded to charge the internal battery in the mouse. Eventually that
internal battery will die. Batteries are chemical, so they are not
eternal. You'll end up trashing that mouse when its internal battery
will no longer take a charge, or its capacity has waned so much over the
years that the mouse become unusable, and you'll have to buy whatever is available at that time. With replaceable rechargeable batteries, you
can always buy new ones later when the internal battery goes bad. Plus
you can have a charged set ready to swap into the mouse rather than
suffer the cord which is why you got a cordless mouse. Sorry, I don't
believe rechargeable batteries are going to need charging more often
than that internal battery in your mouse. Cord the cordless mouse to
charge, or swap in a set of already charged batteries. You lose or
break that charging cord, but you can easily acquire new batteries.

Why not look into getting a warranty replacement? If you liked that
mouse, why not buy another? Then when you get the warranty replacement,
you'll have 2 of them: 1 currently inuse on the computer, the other
sitting in standby already charged to swap the mice. Or is the breakage
an excuse to getting a new and different mouse which is really what you
wanted, anyway?

If you bought at a stone-and-brick store, you might be able to return it
to get another, or get a credit to buy a different one.

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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

SABRENT 2.4GHz Rechargeable Wireless Mouse

Without a model number, several matches are found at Google Shopping.

https://www.google.com/search?output=search&tbm=shop&q=SABRENT%202.4GHz%20Rechargeable%20Wireless%20Mouse

Price varies a lot by model, and by seller. My guess is your model
sells for about $14. A search at eBay has the WH315 model selling for
under $7, without a price change based on color selection, and includes
free shipping. That's damn cheap. Sabrent's pricing for rechargeable
models is $12 to $15 (https://sabrent.com/collections/mice). Their
MS-RCWM has a 1-year warranty, longer than the 3 months when yours
broke, and 2 years if you register the device (use an e-mail alias to
prevent getting spammed).

Some Sabrent models at eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=SABRENT+2.4GHz+Rechargeable+Wireless+Mouse&_sacat=0

Sabrent looks to have long warranties, like 2 to 5 years: https://sabrent.com/pages/warranty-policy

Just remember when packing the sometimes-corded mouse to NOT have the
cord plugged into the USB port on the mouse when packed. A little bit
of flex in the laptop bag could result in bending the USB connection too
far and break the connection to an internal PCB onto which the USB port
is soldered.

https://sabrent.com/pages/support#Warranty
Click on "Claim Your Warranty"

Looks like they pay the postage to send you a replacement, but likely
you have to pay the postage to send them the defective product (if they
require it be returned to them). By then, you might as buy another at
$14 than waste time with a warranty.

For the cheap price of the Sabrent rechargeable models, I'd ignore the warranty, and just buy another. Actually, since the battery is not user servicable nor takes batteries, I'd buy 2 to have a spare on hand and
already charged when the current one is discharged, or when its
non-replaceable battery dies or wanes too much causing overly short
up-time per charge.

The internal battery is only 600 mAH. You can get a batteried cordless
mouse, and use lithium batteries with easily 5 times that capacity. If
you don't get a 2nd mouse (internal battery) to swap when the current
one is low, you can get a charger for the lithium batteries that plugs
into any A/C outlet instead of cording the cordless mouse to a computer
(whose USB port is still powered when the computer is shutdown).

If you're not looking for a mouse with more features, like more buttons,
then there are several 3-button cordless mice from which to choose.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100160864%20600009613%204814%208000%20600009582%20600009585%20601303858%20600009584
(Newegg doesn't carry every matching product.)
(Watch the shipping cost.)

A lot depends on the size of your palm for what mouse is comfortable for prolonged use, and if you want left-, right-, or ambidextrous shape.
One of the Sabrent rechargeable models is ambidexterous, and the other
is right-handed.

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knuttle wrote:

my experience with battery wireless mice is that the batteries
constantly  need replacement.

That has VASTLY improved for newer mice, at least from Logitech, mine
says 55% remaining after 7 months on a single alkaline AA

You've had several people say they have battery life in months to years,
rather than days to weeks.

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On 6/13/2023 10:13 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 06/13/2023 9:29 PM, Paul wrote:

On 6/13/2023 5:32 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 06/13/2023 4:25 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse

OP:  I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery wireless mice is that the batteries constantly  need replacement. Yes, I know that batteries differ.  But I have used brand name and the store brand of batteries with the same

results.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord.  I am not rough on my mice.

What is the make and model of the mouse ?

    Paul

SABRENT 2.4GHz Rechargeable Wireless Mouse

I think I will continue to use my old faithful tailed mouse and fight the cord to my laptop.

I ran your description through Google, and this was the closest match.

It looks like it uses a microUSB charge port.

https://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-Rechargeable-Adjustable-Resolution-MS-RCWM/dp/B07P5JMW4F

I could not find a take-apart, to see whether it is fastened
properly to the printed circuit board. Still, an amazing product
at the price (the fact it's rechargeable, and comes with nano-transmitter).

To recharge it, it's not high speed USB or anything. All you
really need, is to pick up the red and black wires near the
connector, inside the mouse, and hook those to +5V on a PC.

Or for that matter, if you have a wall adapter with the multi-voltage
slider option, those can be switch selected anywhere from about 4.5V to 12V, and there would be a 5V setting on one of those. The advantage of a wall adapter,
is there is a current limit and it shuts off if you overload the wall adapter.

The battery terminals on one of my TV remotes, got coated in
battery goo, ruining it. And that remote still works today...
because it runs off a 3V wall adapter :-) "Don't get mad... get even."
Just because a device has fragile supply electricals, is
no reason to throw it out.

If you have no further plans for the mouse, you can take it
apart for a look. If no screw is evident, use a magnet and
sweep over the "feet" to see if a recessed screw is under there.
Practices have changed in the industry, regarding screws-under-feet,
but it's still possible a manufacturer will copy the old way of
doing it. The mouse has magnets of its own, which hold the nano
transmitter in its bay. And your sweeper magnet, may pick up too
much field from those, to be able to identify screws-under-feet.

Some mice have a break-away decal over the screw. The decal
may have lettering on it, or a logo or such, but if you look
carefully, there is an X cut in it, hinting that jamming
a Philips screwdriver through the "X" will contact the screw,
and the screw can then be removed.

Do i keep electricals for a long time ? You betcha. My
electric lawn mower is now 32 years old :-) It looks
like Edison designed it.

Paul

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On 2023-06-13 20:22, justaW wrote:

On 13-Jun-23 10:12 AM, knuttle wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged  tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.


Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Regardless of what kind of wireless mouse, go with a rechargeable one,
or ideally, one that takes batteries. Nothing stopping you from using rechargeable AA batteries.

Huh.

If I use rechargeable batteries on my wireless keyboard, it reports low battery, because the voltage is significantly lower. 55% charge, it says
today, but it works. A Logitech K400 Plus.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Knuttle,

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement.

My experiences today are in par with the others here : only once in quite a number of months I need to replace them.

One thing to recon with though : if you take a wireless mouse with you (with the laptop) than don't forget to switch it off. Movement will keep waking
it up and than try to get its bearings. Which costs more energy than just usage.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord.
I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by
just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

knuttle wrote:

my experience with battery wireless mice is that the batteries
constantly  need replacement.

That has VASTLY improved for newer mice, at least from Logitech, mine
says 55% remaining after 7 months on a single alkaline AA

Same with all my logitech mice. The single AA lasts 12-18 months.

You've had several people say they have battery life in months to years, rather than days to weeks.

I suspect this is mouse quality issue. A high quality one will attempt to reduce battery usage as much as possible to improve the user experience.

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On 2023-06-14 17:07, R.Wieser wrote:

...

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord.
I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by
just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

WHAT?

I had to look that one up :-D

<https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=what%27s+the+shoe+in+the+fridge%3F>

<https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/8ipbaa/why_do_americans_store_their_shoes_in_the_fridge/>

<https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-purpose-of-putting-shoes-in-the-freezer>

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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Carlos,

the shoe in the fridge comes to mind.

WHAT?

I had to look that one up :-D

<https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=what%27s+the+shoe+in+the+fridge%3F>

Not quite what I ment (and would have used "phone, glasses, housekeys"
instead if I had know that).

Its about to people who go grab a drink or food from the fridge while being
in deep thought, and as they have their hands full with something they absendmindedly put that in the fridge so they have their hand(s) free to
grab the other thing.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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knuttle wrote:

What are people with long mouse battery life doing with their computers,

everything ... I hate using touchpads, I connect via bluetooth, all my
non-work web browsing, email/usenet happens on this machine.

The average mouse battery last 2 to 3 weeks before it has to be
replaced.  I use AA Duracell, Eveready alkaline batteries

I suppose you'll never know unless you buy one of the mice people have
been recommending ...

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On 14.06.2023 04:13, knuttle wrote:

SABRENT 2.4GHz Rechargeable Wireless Mouse

I think I will continue to use my old faithful tailed mouse and fight
the cord to my laptop.

For any device charged by an USB port I recommend to use a
magnetic cable like:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33026129585.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652926393.html

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On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:48:57 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

knuttle wrote:

What are people with long mouse battery life doing with their computers,

everything ... I hate using touchpads, I connect via bluetooth, all my >non-work web browsing, email/usenet happens on this machine.

I would also say 'everything'. I spend a lot of time on mind-numbing
conference calls, so I play mind-numbing games to stay awake and alert.

I play checkers, which I usually reset every 5,000 games although I've
let it get to 25,000 once. It's currently at 13,118 wins and 83 losses.

I also play Spider Solitaire (from XP?) and the stats since the last
reset are currently 10,375 wins and 1,274 losses (Easy mode so I don't
have to put any thought into it).

I also play MS Hearts, which I reset more often. It's currently at 2,065
wins and 262 losses.

I also play Mahjong, which shows about 6,500 games total across the 6
board options.

Each of those games has a lot of click-and-drag, which I would think is
hard on a cordless mouse. Maybe that's why I only get a few months past
the 2-year mark instead of the advertised 3 years.

The average mouse battery last 2 to 3 weeks before it has to be
replaced.  I use AA Duracell, Eveready alkaline batteries

That sounds like his mouse doesn't know how to go into a battery-saving
mode when it's not being actively used.

I used to use name brand AA batteries but I've switched to our low-cost
option here in the States, Harbor Freight. They cost about 1/4 to 1/3
the cost of the big guys and I'm getting the same life as before.

I suppose you'll never know unless you buy one of the mice people have
been recommending ...

+1

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On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

Knuttle,

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement.

My experiences today are in par with the others here : only once in quite a >number of months I need to replace them.

One thing to recon with though : if you take a wireless mouse with you (with >the laptop) than don't forget to switch it off. Movement will keep waking >it up and than try to get its bearings. Which costs more energy than just >usage.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord. >> I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by >just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

Or for me, knocking it onto the floor and breaking it. I used a
wireless mouse for a while, because as far as I knew, the wired model
of the one I wanted wasn't available. After I knocked it onto the
floor umpteen times and finally broke it, I found a wired model of the
same mouse on Amazon, and that's what I now use. I like it much better
that any wireless mouse. By the way, it's an Anker ergonomic vertical
mouse. I like vertical mice much more than the traditional horizontal
mice.

I know I'm in the minority, but I see no value in wireless mice or
keyboards. I don't use mine anyplace but sitting in front of my 34"
monitor.

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On 2023-06-14 22:17, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

Knuttle,

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement.

My experiences today are in par with the others here : only once in quite a >> number of months I need to replace them.

One thing to recon with though : if you take a wireless mouse with you (with >> the laptop) than don't forget to switch it off. Movement will keep waking >> it up and than try to get its bearings. Which costs more energy than just >> usage.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord. >>> I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by
just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

Or for me, knocking it onto the floor and breaking it. I used a
wireless mouse for a while, because as far as I knew, the wired model
of the one I wanted wasn't available. After I knocked it onto the
floor umpteen times and finally broke it, I found a wired model of the
same mouse on Amazon, and that's what I now use. I like it much better
that any wireless mouse. By the way, it's an Anker ergonomic vertical
mouse. I like vertical mice much more than the traditional horizontal
mice.

I know I'm in the minority, but I see no value in wireless mice or
keyboards. I don't use mine anyplace but sitting in front of my 34"
monitor.

I use a wireless keyboard for my mini-server aka media-server. All my
computers use cabled keyboards and mice, except this one. Just
inconvenient to use a cable 3 metres long.

I also use a BT mouse on a tablet. That tablet fell to the floor
breaking the glass, so that touch screen stopped working. A wired mouse
works, but then the tablet can't be charged, single USB port.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 2023-06-14 20:19, R.Wieser wrote:

Carlos,

the shoe in the fridge comes to mind.

WHAT?

I had to look that one up :-D

<https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=what%27s+the+shoe+in+the+fridge%3F>

Not quite what I ment (and would have used "phone, glasses, housekeys" instead if I had know that).

Its about to people who go grab a drink or food from the fridge while being in deep thought, and as they have their hands full with something they absendmindedly put that in the fridge so they have their hand(s) free to
grab the other thing.

OHHHHHhhh.... yes, right, that one..., yes, I know.

Hard to imagine dropping the shoe in the fridge, though. Too big :-D

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 6/14/23 14:35, Char Jackson wrote:

[snip]

I also play Spider Solitaire (from XP?) and the stats since the last
reset are currently 10,375 wins and 1,274 losses (Easy mode so I don't
have to put any thought into it).

I like Spider Solitaire from XP (it works on W2K if you copy the file), especially after I disabled the machine-gun sound when dealing.

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"No man ever knew Providence to interpose when his neighbor's hens are scratching up his garden." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth
Reading And Other Essays_]

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On 6/15/2023 10:00 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 6/14/23 14:35, Char Jackson wrote:

[snip]

I also play Spider Solitaire (from XP?) and the stats since the last
reset are currently 10,375 wins and 1,274 losses (Easy mode so I don't
have to put any thought into it).

I like Spider Solitaire from XP (it works on W2K if you copy the file), especially after I disabled the machine-gun sound when dealing.

I do play regular windows 10 solitaire while listening to an afternoon
podcast at times. What I find amazing is that after thousands of games
I certainly can predict the better and not the ususal of several options
to choose. It's not a very good shuffling of the deck. But, I play it
anyways to keep my hands busy while listening.

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Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

Knuttle,

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement.

My experiences today are in par with the others here : only once in quite a >> number of months I need to replace them.

One thing to recon with though : if you take a wireless mouse with you (with >> the laptop) than don't forget to switch it off. Movement will keep waking >> it up and than try to get its bearings. Which costs more energy than just >> usage.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord. >>> I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by
just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

Or for me, knocking it onto the floor and breaking it. I used a
wireless mouse for a while, because as far as I knew, the wired model
of the one I wanted wasn't available. After I knocked it onto the
floor umpteen times and finally broke it, I found a wired model of the
same mouse on Amazon, and that's what I now use. I like it much better
that any wireless mouse. By the way, it's an Anker ergonomic vertical
mouse. I like vertical mice much more than the traditional horizontal
mice.

I use a trackball mouse that sits in the place on my desk permanently so
little risk of it being knocked off.

I know I'm in the minority, but I see no value in wireless mice or
keyboards. I don't use mine anyplace but sitting in front of my 34"
monitor.

I agree. Especially for a trackball mouse which never moves. Logitech mice
used to use their own USB dongle so you don't even save on the ports. With
BT at least that's a benefit.

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knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 06/14/2023 10:48 AM, Chris wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

knuttle wrote:

my experience with battery wireless mice is that the batteries
constantly  need replacement.

That has VASTLY improved for newer mice, at least from Logitech, mine
says 55% remaining after 7 months on a single alkaline AA

Same with all my logitech mice. The single AA lasts 12-18 months.

You've had several people say they have battery life in months to years, >>> rather than days to weeks.

I suspect this is mouse quality issue. A high quality one will attempt to
reduce battery usage as much as possible to improve the user experience.

What are people with long mouse battery life doing with their computers,
vs what people with short computer battery life are doing.

I use my mouse for work 8+ hours a day five days a week. Sometimes weekends
as well.

I've had this current mouse 2 years from new when starting a new job and changed the battery once a few months ago.

Obviously the first battery was whatever came with the noise and the
current one is a basic panasonic one.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:25:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

Knuttle,

OP: I am looking to a rechargeable, as my experience with battery
wireless mice is that the batteries constantly need replacement.

My experiences today are in par with the others here : only once in quite a
number of months I need to replace them.

One thing to recon with though : if you take a wireless mouse with you (with
the laptop) than don't forget to switch it off. Movement will keep waking >>> it up and than try to get its bearings. Which costs more energy than just >>> usage.

One of the things I like about a wireless mouse it there is not the cord. >>>> I am not rough on my mice.

Not having a cord means that its easier to lose, either literally, or by >>> just misplacing it somewhere (the shoe in the fridge comes to mind).

Or for me, knocking it onto the floor and breaking it. I used a
wireless mouse for a while, because as far as I knew, the wired model
of the one I wanted wasn't available. After I knocked it onto the
floor umpteen times and finally broke it, I found a wired model of the
same mouse on Amazon, and that's what I now use. I like it much better
that any wireless mouse. By the way, it's an Anker ergonomic vertical
mouse. I like vertical mice much more than the traditional horizontal
mice.

I use a trackball mouse that sits in the place on my desk permanently so >little risk of it being knocked off.

Lots of people like trackballs. I'm not one of them. I find them very
difficult to use. Yes, with practice, I'm sure I could get used to
them, but I see no reason to make the effort, especially since I'm
happy with what I use.

I know I'm in the minority, but I see no value in wireless mice or
keyboards. I don't use mine anyplace but sitting in front of my 34"
monitor.

I agree. Especially for a trackball mouse which never moves. Logitech mice >used to use their own USB dongle so you don't even save on the ports. With
BT at least that's a benefit.

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On 2023-06-15 18:51, Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:25:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

I use a trackball mouse that sits in the place on my desk permanently so
little risk of it being knocked off.

Lots of people like trackballs. I'm not one of them. I find them very difficult to use. Yes, with practice, I'm sure I could get used to
them, but I see no reason to make the effort, especially since I'm
happy with what I use.

I "discovered" trackballs when at a job I had we sold machines with a
computer, and there simply there was no space for a mouse in the 19"
inches rack tray. Mice have to move around, trackballs remain static.

I tried one, just for kicks, and found I actually liked them, after a
week or two of use.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-06-15 18:51, Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:25:08 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 17:07:07 +0200, "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid>
wrote:

I use a trackball mouse that sits in the place on my desk permanently so >>> little risk of it being knocked off.

Lots of people like trackballs. I'm not one of them. I find them very
difficult to use. Yes, with practice, I'm sure I could get used to
them, but I see no reason to make the effort, especially since I'm
happy with what I use.

I "discovered" trackballs when at a job I had we sold machines with a computer, and there simply there was no space for a mouse in the 19"
inches rack tray. Mice have to move around, trackballs remain static.

I tried one, just for kicks, and found I actually liked them, after a
week or two of use.

They're ace. Used them almost exclusively for well over 20 years now.

I get a sore shoulder if I use anything else.

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On 15/06/2023 16:00, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 6/14/23 14:35, Char Jackson wrote:

[snip]

I also play Spider Solitaire (from XP?) and the stats since the last
reset are currently 10,375 wins and 1,274 losses (Easy mode so I don't
have to put any thought into it).

I like Spider Solitaire from XP (it works on W2K if you copy the file), especially after I disabled the machine-gun sound when dealing.

[snip]

XM Solitaire
- https://sourceforge.net/projects/xmsol/

"200 card games for Windows (Freecell, Klondike, Fan, Spider, Pyramid,
Gaps, etc.
Games layout and rules are declared in XML format.
User can add his own cards and background images.
• resizeable window
• unlimited undo, redo
• statistics, score, time
• right-click moves a card to the most suitable cell according to game rules • double-click moves a card to a free cell
• quickly move whole column if you have enough free cells"

--
Regards
wasbit

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[snip]

I use a trackball mouse that sits in the place on my desk permanently so
little risk of it being knocked off.

Lots of people like trackballs. I'm not one of them. I find them very difficult to use. Yes, with practice, I'm sure I could get used to
them, but I see no reason to make the effort, especially since I'm
happy with what I use.

I like a trackball in situations where there's no proper flat surface
for a mouse.

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"No man ever knew Providence to interpose when his neighbor's hens are scratching up his garden." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth
Reading And Other Essays_]

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On 13/06/2023 15:52, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:12:47 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I purchased a rechargeable mouse, and liked it a lot while it worked.
The battery had to be recharged about every week to 10 days, but since
it recharged tethered to the computer it was not an inconvenience.

However after using it for about 3 month the USB connector broke and I
could not recharge it.


Has any one found a good inexpensibe rechargeble mouse that the like.

Not rechargeable, but I like the Logitech M705 cordless mouse. It can
use either one or two AA batteries, and in my experience, two batteries
give me a little over two years of use at about 10-14 hours a day on
most days. Logitech claims 3 years on two batteries, but I suspect
they've based that on a more reasonable usage model. The mouse has an
LED that glows red, well in advance, to warn you when the batteries are getting low. I get at least 4-6 months of warning, plenty of time to
make sure I've got new batteries available.

the logitech trackball m570 is also very good with battery life.and once
you get used to a trackball it is a very good mouse.

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