How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used
this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents, Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what
each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used
this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents, Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what
each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
micky wrote:
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used
this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life
easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my
fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many
months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents,
Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra
v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse
order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what
each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
I can't say how it happened but I know what I'd do in your situation.
Completely uninstall all Hebrew settings; everything related to them.
Maybe a final Windows search for "Hebrew" thereafter wouldn't go amiss.
When things have returned to normal, you can re-install as you wish.
Ed
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:03:03 +0100, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used >>> this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life >>> easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my
fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many
months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents,
Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra
v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse
order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what >>> each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
I can't say how it happened but I know what I'd do in your situation.
Completely uninstall all Hebrew settings; everything related to them.
Maybe a final Windows search for "Hebrew" thereafter wouldn't go amiss.
When things have returned to normal, you can re-install as you wish.
Ed
Thanks, Ed and Paul. If I learn more I'll post back. I thought this
example of, I presume, unintended consequences would interest you.
Unintended consequences are so universal in the computer programming
world that nothing surprises me.
It's easy to blame MS for insufficient testing before release, but there
are so very many, many different environments on which their OS's run
that they can't cover them all.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:03:03 +0100, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used >>> this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life >>> easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my
fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many
months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents,
Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra
v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse
order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what >>> each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
I can't say how it happened but I know what I'd do in your situation.
Completely uninstall all Hebrew settings; everything related to them.
Maybe a final Windows search for "Hebrew" thereafter wouldn't go amiss.
When things have returned to normal, you can re-install as you wish.
Ed
Thanks, Ed and Paul. If I learn more I'll post back. I thought this
example of, I presume, unintended consequences would interest you.
micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:03:03 +0100, Ed Cryer
<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
This is not really a problem, but I think you'll find it interesting.
Using win10 fully updated. I've never seen win11 but I'm thinking the
two have similarities:
I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I've used >>>> this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2 >>>> years ago. I'm not good at learning something new so this made my life >>>> easier.
In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my >>>> fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many >>>> months afaicr. It's easy to change back.
Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big >>>> blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew >>>> is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
what the English entries would have said.
The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents,
Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read >>>> and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra >>>> v'tamicha, and hapoala.
And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse >>>> order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
are in reverse order!
And I've restarted Windows but it didn't undo this.
I've never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what >>>> each key means, not menu items. It doesn't even know words, only
letters.
How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
I can't say how it happened but I know what I'd do in your situation.
Completely uninstall all Hebrew settings; everything related to them.
Maybe a final Windows search for "Hebrew" thereafter wouldn't go amiss.
When things have returned to normal, you can re-install as you wish.
Ed
Thanks, Ed and Paul. If I learn more I'll post back. I thought this
example of, I presume, unintended consequences would interest you.
You're going to have to be very selective with a Windows search of your >files.
I teach various languages online and have all kinds of language packages >installed, including Greek, Cyrillic and Hebrew keyboards and software.
And I just ran an experimental Search that threw up tons of hits; mostly
text documents associated with their owners.
I've never seen my Windows swap to other scripts the way yours has. And, >believe me, I've tinkered like a gardener in a potting shed. Great fun!
I suspect something at your end has tinkered with the Windows overall >language settings.
Look in Settings, Time and Language.
Ed
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 05 Jun 2023 20:26:12 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
My guess is that it's not windows, but that add-on that makes win10 look
like win7 (whose name I can't remember and didn't find**). To do that,
it probably has to bring along some text, and to only have one version,
maybe all languages are included. I've used that on two other computers
too, ever since wiln10 first came out, including another one I'm using
right now, and I think I've had Hebrwew most of that time, and it's
never dragged in Hebrew before!!
**Called Classic Shell, unless that was the name of the first one.
That was the name of the first one. Its successor, that I am using, is called Open Shell.
The settings for it seem to have onlyl 4 tabs, but I can't find how to
open them. No, once I learned the name, I just typed Open in the
windows start menu search box and Open Shell Menu Settings came right
up. And in the Language tab, Hebrew was highlighted, out of 30. I
wonder why. I changed it, I think, and maybe that fixed it.
Okay, googling "classic shell menu in hebrew" I got "the main classic
shell packaage includes translations in 35 languages, for things like
toolbar labels, the Explorer UI and the start menu items. So I should
look at Explorer! If that means File Explorer, everything is in
English! When I mistakenly entered Windows Explorer, I got a message in
Hebrew. When I put in Internet Explorer, I got File Explorer.
There appears to be a very broad array of Classic Start Menu settings,
14 tabs's worth, but I don't know how to get there.
My guess is that it's not windows, but that add-on that makes win10 look
like win7 (whose name I can't remember and didn't find**). To do that,
it probably has to bring along some text, and to only have one version,
maybe all languages are included. I've used that on two other computers
too, ever since wiln10 first came out, including another one I'm using
right now, and I think I've had Hebrwew most of that time, and it's
never dragged in Hebrew before!!
**Called Classic Shell, unless that was the name of the first one.
Okay, googling "classic shell menu in hebrew" I got "the main classic
shell packaage includes translations in 35 languages, for things like
toolbar labels, the Explorer UI and the start menu items. So I should
look at Explorer! If that means File Explorer, everything is in
English! When I mistakenly entered Windows Explorer, I got a message in >Hebrew. When I put in Internet Explorer, I got File Explorer.
There appears to be a very broad array of Classic Start Menu settings,
14 tabs's worth, but I don't know how to get there.
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