XPost: comp.text.pdf, alt.comp.freeware

On 5/9/2023 7:48 AM, knuttle wrote:

NOTE: I do not no the legalities of this procedure and could I assume be
the basis of a forgery conviction if you add someone else signature.

To be safe, I then print the document to a PDF printer to insure it can
not be remomved from the document.

It's all aboveboard but I was experimenting with electronic signatures to
see how they worked, so that was the basis of this technical question.

It turns out I have 10 days to "notify" the DMV of the transfer of
ownership, and 30 days to actually "complete" that transfer paperwork.

I didn't know that, but the 30 days gives me time to use the snail mail
to get the one signature that isn't close to me (I'm the other signature).

The DMV took the form yesterday, but they asked if the signatures were electronic, and they didn't believe me when I said it was all "ink."

Then they took my money but said I would have to have "wet ink" signatures.

When I asked curiously how she knew that (she hadn't believed me for one second, as hard as I tried to say otherwise), the lady behind the DMV
counter said there was no indentation for the pen marks and there was no
color change - so - what's weird is she accepted it for the payment and the action - but not completely. It's an incomplete submission.

Who knew you could submit all the paperwork without a valid signature.
Not me.

That's great to know as every experiment teaches us more things about PCs.
When I asked her what good was it then, she said Sacramento would have
noticed the same thing as she did, and they would have bounced it back.

So all I have to do now is write the missing signature with blue ink
on the form, and submit that (even though I already submitted it).

Weird how the government works.
Weird that they "accepted" it as partially incomplete.
And weird that they took my money.

So I'm glad I did it as I learned a few new tricks (and that's good).

It's not a big deal as it's wholly aboveboard - but it is interesting.
But it's a good experiment as I never thought about the pen indentations.

Good to know that lots of PDF programs have electronic signatures though.

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