• Re: Windows 10 and wide screen monitor

    From Ant@21:1/5 to MikeS on Wed May 10 23:24:01 2023
    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2023 21:07, pinnerite wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes. >>>
    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Thank you.

    Have you installed the correct VirtualBox Extensions?

    Ditto. Be sure it is using VirtualBox's video driver. Also, check VM's settings.
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Thu May 11 01:16:16 2023
    On 5/10/2023 4:07 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes.

    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Thank you.

    There may be many combinations of things from a cosmetic
    point of view in a VirtualBox Windows Guest. But it boils
    down to a VESA-like display (similar to a raw frame buffer
    in a sense). VESA resolutions include some 4:3 and some 5:4 items.

    On 6.1.38 Linux Host, Windows Guest, you grab the corner of
    the VirtualBox Window and pull it wider, and the screen resizes.
    The "Display" panel in Windows, ends up with a custom resolution
    entry shown in it.

    I don't see a reason, right off hand, why you could not pull
    that across two displays.

    Also, another point about VirtualBox. The "Enable 3D acceleration"
    does not do good things to the colours in the Windows Guest taskbar
    and Notifications pane. The window works properly with the
    "Enable 3D acceleration" off. And, as a bonus, if you run "dxdiag"
    in Windows 10, the Display characteristics there shows the
    three acceleration options as being operational. It means the
    display really is compatible, when "Enable 3D acceleration" == OFF.

    Paul

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Thu May 11 06:39:12 2023
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes.

    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution. What's the resolution of the monitor?

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Now that would have been very useful information to have in the OP.

    Have you installed the VBox extensions in Windows? What happens when you
    resize the Vbox window?

    Thank you.








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  • From T@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Thu May 11 00:28:47 2023
    On 5/10/23 10:58, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes.

    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Usually, yes.

    On my qemu-kvm virtual machines,
    I can just drag the windows size around
    and it tracks any weird size and shape
    I give it. (My host if Fedora 37.)
    Qemu-kvm spoils me!


    TIA


    Hi Pine,

    Is it working okay on the host machine?

    If it is, your VM needs its video driver
    updated. Maybe choose a better virtual
    graphic card for it too.

    And make sure your guest drivers (or whatever
    they are called) are installed and updated
    on your guest.

    Also make sure your host hypervisor
    is also up to date.

    -T

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 11 04:55:39 2023
    On 5/11/2023 2:39 AM, Chris wrote:
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes. >>>>
    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution. What's the resolution of the monitor?

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Now that would have been very useful information to have in the OP.

    Have you installed the VBox extensions in Windows? What happens when you resize the Vbox window?

    You get weird sizes when you grab a corner and resize it.

    Yet, that seems to work. The menu within Windows (guest) itself,
    only has VESA values... if you did not mess with it.

    Unlike a real graphics card, there are unlikely to be any
    rules about divisible by 8 and divisible by 2.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 11 05:31:30 2023
    On 5/11/2023 3:28 AM, T wrote:

    Hi Pine,

    Is it working okay on the host machine?

    If it is, your VM needs its video driver
    updated.  Maybe choose a better virtual
    graphic card for it too.

    And make sure your guest drivers (or whatever
    they are called) are installed and updated
    on your guest.

    Also make sure your host hypervisor
    is also up to date.

    -T

    The 6.1.38 VBox has a WDDM 1.3 driver in the Guest Additions,
    so it has a pretty good driver. DXDIAG claims all three
    acceleration options are operating. Compositing works OK
    (just keep the Experimental hardware acceleration turned off).
    The hardware acceleration, causes the Task Bar to not render
    properly, and that's a good reason to leave it off.

    VBox is up in the 7.xx range now, so the one deployed
    in the Package Manager is a stable one. They don't even
    deploy 6.1.40 .

    Benefits of VBox, is you don't need a "decoder ring" to run it :-)
    I've run QEMU KVM several times now, and it's a roller coaster
    ride.

    Paul

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 11 11:04:33 2023
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu May 11 14:25:02 2023
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On 5/11/2023 2:39 AM, Chris wrote:
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes. >>>>>
    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution. What's the resolution of the monitor?

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Now that would have been very useful information to have in the OP.

    Have you installed the VBox extensions in Windows? What happens when you
    resize the Vbox window?

    You get weird sizes when you grab a corner and resize it.

    Yet, that seems to work. The menu within Windows (guest) itself,
    only has VESA values... if you did not mess with it.

    Unlike a real graphics card, there are unlikely to be any
    rules about divisible by 8 and divisible by 2.

    Yes, I am aware of all that. The OP seems to have done or not done
    something to mess it up.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 11 15:56:44 2023
    Chris wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated.
    err ...
    1280/320 = 4
    960/320 = 3

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu May 11 14:25:03 2023
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

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  • From ...winston@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 11 11:26:57 2023
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
    - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to ...winston on Thu May 11 12:08:01 2023
    On 5/11/23 10:26, ...winston wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
     - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?

    Some old CRT monitors could handle 1280x1024, although on the one I had
    that was the maximum resolution and it was blurry. I used 1024x768 (4:3)
    on that.

    --
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    http://notstupid.us/

    "Faith is an absolutely marvelous tool. With faith there is no question
    too big for even the smallest mind." [Rev. Donald Morgan (b. 1933),
    "Atheist theologian"]

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to ...winston on Thu May 11 13:46:57 2023
    On 5/11/2023 11:26 AM, ...winston wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
     - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    The monitor to the left of me, is 1280x1024 and is 5:4.
    The monitor is made by NEC. "Multisync LCD1765"
    Bought Mar 11, 2003. Still works.

    The viewing angle suggests it may not be twisted nematic.
    It also has a gloss finish.

    VGA only, so used with various adapters over the years.
    The video card has no VGA to drive it.

    It might be using piezoelectric HV modules to
    make the high voltage for the CCFL tubes (which
    may last longer). The tubes are getting a bit
    on the brownish side so the image is not
    "original brightness".

    Normally, the high voltage modules fail before
    the tubes do. On this one, the CCFL tubes are likely
    to be the limiting factor.

    Paul

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  • From ...winston@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu May 11 17:49:18 2023
    Paul wrote:
    On 5/11/2023 11:26 AM, ...winston wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
      - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    The monitor to the left of me, is 1280x1024 and is 5:4.
    The monitor is made by NEC. "Multisync LCD1765"
    Bought Mar 11, 2003. Still works.

    The viewing angle suggests it may not be twisted nematic.
    It also has a gloss finish.

    VGA only, so used with various adapters over the years.
    The video card has no VGA to drive it.

    It might be using piezoelectric HV modules to
    make the high voltage for the CCFL tubes (which
    may last longer). The tubes are getting a bit
    on the brownish side so the image is not
    "original brightness".

    Normally, the high voltage modules fail before
    the tubes do. On this one, the CCFL tubes are likely
    to be the limiting factor.

       Paul


    Hi, Paul.
    Thanks for confirming LCD and 5:4 resolution(thought it applied to an
    ancient era of devices and resolution use).
    Mark also noted, the 5:4 aspect ratio was applicable to CRT devices.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu May 11 22:24:36 2023
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated.
    err ...
    1280/320 = 4
    960/320 = 3

    Ah, err... whoops!

    Thanks for the correction.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to ..winston on Thu May 11 22:28:14 2023
    ..winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the case
    it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
    - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?

    Yep. Had one of them.

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to ...winston on Fri May 12 09:52:07 2023
    On 11/05/2023 16:26, ...winston wrote:

    snip <

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    My monitor, a 19" Acer AL1906 run is running at the recommended
    resolution of 1280x1024 @ 60Hz.
    Apparently it can run at 1280x1024 @ 75Hz, but I only ever look into
    these settings if I have a need to.
    I also don't upgrade for the sake of it. If it works, it's fine by me.

    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to wasbit on Fri May 12 15:41:55 2023
    wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/05/2023 16:26, ...winston wrote:

    snip <

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    My monitor, a 19" Acer AL1906 run is running at the recommended
    resolution of 1280x1024 @ 60Hz.
    Apparently it can run at 1280x1024 @ 75Hz, but I only ever look into
    these settings if I have a need to.
    I also don't upgrade for the sake of it. If it works, it's fine by me.

    [OT:]

    N.B. You (your nym) have been forged [1] in the comp.mobile.android
    group, starting around May 7. The abuse seems to have stopped, but I
    thought to let you know.

    There was at least one other victim and probably two.

    [1] The forgery was not all that 'good', but most people would probably
    not spote the difference(s).

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  • From Bill Bradshaw@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri May 12 08:41:59 2023
    Paul wrote:
    On 5/11/2023 11:26 AM, ...winston wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    pinnerite wrote:

    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    That's an unusual resolution.

    Probably a typo for 1280x960

    Ah, yes true. However, not a 4:3 as the OP stated. If that was the
    case it'd be 1280x1024.

    1280x1024 is 5:4
    - i.e not really a true 4:3 aspect ratio

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    The monitor to the left of me, is 1280x1024 and is 5:4.
    The monitor is made by NEC. "Multisync LCD1765"
    Bought Mar 11, 2003. Still works.

    Multisync LCD1970GX sitting to my right. Has DVI-D and VGA. Have a VGA to HDMI adaptor that works fine. Still use it. I think it was purchased in
    2005.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

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  • From pinnerite@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri May 12 18:20:14 2023
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 23:24:01 +0000
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2023 21:07, pinnerite wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes. >>>
    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Thank you.

    Have you installed the correct VirtualBox Extensions?

    Ditto. Be sure it is using VirtualBox's video driver. Also, check VM's settings.

    I didn't mean to cause such trouble! :)

    1) Yes it was a typo. It should be 1280 x 960 which is 4:3
    2) The VirtualBox version I have is 7.0.8 and the extensions match.
    3) VirtuaBox frame fits the entire screen (1920 x 1080)
    4) The windows image sits in the middle and cannot be stretched.
    I managed with a 17.4 inch screen for over 20 years so ....

    Thanks all,

    Alan




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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Fri May 12 13:50:04 2023
    On 5/12/2023 1:20 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 23:24:01 +0000
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2023 21:07, pinnerite wrote:
    On Wed, 10 May 2023 18:06:23 -0000 (UTC)
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes. >>>>>>
    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    Of course! Right click the desktop and select "Display Settings" or
    similar.


    Even I could work that out. :)

    So it shows Scale and layout 100% (recommended)
    Display resolution 1289 x 960

    Display Orientation - Landscape (greyed out)

    Multiple displays (Didn't detect) irrelevant anyway

    Advanced display settings - no changeable entries

    This is a virtual Win-10.

    Perhaps the limitation is because the driver is part of virtualbox.

    Thank you.

    Have you installed the correct VirtualBox Extensions?

    Ditto. Be sure it is using VirtualBox's video driver. Also, check VM's settings.

    I didn't mean to cause such trouble! :)

    1) Yes it was a typo. It should be 1280 x 960 which is 4:3
    2) The VirtualBox version I have is 7.0.8 and the extensions match.
    3) VirtuaBox frame fits the entire screen (1920 x 1080)
    4) The windows image sits in the middle and cannot be stretched.
    I managed with a 17.4 inch screen for over 20 years so ....

    Thanks all,

    Alan

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/Jnrj0zcw/VBOX-slightly-modal-DISPLAY-adjustment-options.gif

    If your session is not allowing you to get what you want, there are
    two adjustment options in the Guest window menus to help.

    But I cannot describe what they do, in 25 words or less.

    In the Windows Guest, right click the desktop and select the "Display" item. Try to select a lower resolution value, as a temporary measure.

    Next, use the "Auto-Resize Guest Display". Now, the window
    should be smaller than your monitor. Grab the corner and drag it
    to resize. Inside the Guest, the driver will be adding a new
    value to the available display resolutions, which match what
    you're doing by grabbing the corner of the Guest frame.

    And don't panic, if grabbing the corner of the window and moving
    it, does not cause Windows Guest display to resize. Use the
    "Auto-Resize Guest Display" and try again.

    Some combination of those controls, you'll (eventually)
    get what you want.

    Paul

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sat May 13 09:25:49 2023
    On 12/05/2023 16:41, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/05/2023 16:26, ...winston wrote:

    > snip <

    It's been years since I've seen a monitor running 1280x1024.
    Maybe on those old 17 in. LCD(TFT?) displays?


    My monitor, a 19" Acer AL1906 run is running at the recommended
    resolution of 1280x1024 @ 60Hz.
    Apparently it can run at 1280x1024 @ 75Hz, but I only ever look into
    these settings if I have a need to.
    I also don't upgrade for the sake of it. If it works, it's fine by me.

    [OT:]

    N.B. You (your nym) have been forged [1] in the comp.mobile.android
    group, starting around May 7. The abuse seems to have stopped, but I
    thought to let you know.

    There was at least one other victim and probably two.

    [1] The forgery was not all that 'good', but most people would probably
    not spote the difference(s).


    Thanks for letting me know.

    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Sun May 14 09:00:22 2023
    On 5/12/2023 1:20 PM, pinnerite wrote:


    I didn't mean to cause such trouble! :)

    1) Yes it was a typo. It should be 1280 x 960 which is 4:3
    2) The VirtualBox version I have is 7.0.8 and the extensions match.
    3) VirtuaBox frame fits the entire screen (1920 x 1080)
    4) The windows image sits in the middle and cannot be stretched.
    I managed with a 17.4 inch screen for over 20 years so ....

    Thanks all,

    Alan

    I used a Lubuntu 18.04 and Virtualbox 5.2.42 for this test.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/kgjTYvQD/virtualbox-5242-full-screen-and-back.gif

    That's roughly an attempt at 3840x2160.

    In 5.2.42 (no VboxSVGA), there seems to be a 1920x1440 limitation.
    A note in a bugtracker, notes that an earlier version of VirtualBox,
    the developer modded the max resolution so an Apple Retina display
    would work, but I suspect that change was backed out later.

    In the picture you can see I got 3840x2160 from it. These are some
    of the ingredients. The "official way" to add a resolution, is like this.

    VBoxManage.exe setextradata "Windows 10" CustomVideoMode1 "3840x2160x32" <=== 5.2.42 limited 1920x1440

    Now, that basically edits one line in the .vbox file. There
    are actually several lines in there that matter (but they
    still cannot really override the 1920x1440 limit).

    </MediaRegistry>
    <ExtraData>
    <ExtraDataItem name="CustomVideoModel" value="3840x2160x32"/>
    <ExtraDataItem name="GUI/LastGuestSizeHint" value="3840,2160"/>
    <ExtraDataItem name="GUI/LastNormalWindowPosition" value="91,110,3840,2204"/>
    </ExtraData>
    <Hardware>

    If you go to Windows 10 and use the Display panel and review the
    properties of the graphics, initially it might show 3840x2160. But
    if you ask Windows 10 to act on the setting, VirtualBox "sanitizes"
    the setting attempt and forces the setting back to 1920x1440.

    If, however, you lay the groundwork, as in the above text lines, then do

    <right-control> F

    for Full Screen operation, again, the operation will fail, the screen
    will turn black. Now, press the full screen toggle again.

    <right-control> F

    The resolution now comes back as 3840x2160. It did not get sanitized.

    But the thing is, if you so much as touch the frame of the window,
    or do just about any desktop operation, it's going to force it back
    to 1920. So this attempt, remains a "bar bet" and not a practical thing,
    in VBOX 5.2.42 (Win10 Guest on Linux host).

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Mon May 15 11:06:49 2023
    On 5/15/2023 10:36 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 1:58 am, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes.

    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    You didn't mention the brand and model of your display adapter!

    LinuxMint is likely the Host OS.

    The hosting software is VirtualBox.

    The Guest OS is Windows 10.

    The Guest video driver, depends on whether VirtualBox Guest Additions
    have been installed in the Guest OS. Without Guest Additions,
    the "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" driver installs. It has 4:3 resolutions. If you install Guest Additions, the WDDM Driver for Windows8+
    is installed, which has very similar resolutions to "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter".

    Looks like this.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/qR6GJ77r/Win10-Guest-On-Linux-Mint.gif

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Mon May 15 22:36:02 2023
    On 11/5/2023 1:58 am, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just replaced my 20 year old monitors for new wide screen tyoes.

    Windows 10 though still comes up in 4:3 format.

    Can it be changed?

    You didn't mention the brand and model of your display adapter!

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