Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks like a scare
tactic for making the switch to Win11. You have 30 more months of
updates coming.
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks like a scare
tactic for making the switch to Win11. You have 30 more months of
updates coming.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
On 5/1/2023 6:58 PM, Joel wrote:Life after death? (of 10 that is)
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks like a scare
tactic for making the switch to Win11. You have 30 more months of
updates coming.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
On 5/1/2023 6:58 PM, Joel wrote:
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks
like a scare tactic for making the switch to Win11. You
have 30 more months of updates coming.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote in
news:Ls04M.399607$wfQc.320399@fx43.iad:
On 5/1/2023 6:58 PM, Joel wrote:
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks
like a scare tactic for making the switch to Win11. You
have 30 more months of updates coming.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
Rounded window corners instead of square.
On 5/1/2023 6:58 PM, Joel wrote:
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Though 22H2 is now the last version of Win10, it looks like a scare
tactic for making the switch to Win11. You have 30 more months of
updates coming.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote in
news:Ls04M.399607$wfQc.320399@fx43.iad:
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
Rounded window corners instead of square.
And Windows without in-focus coloured title bars, so you can enjoy the
game of finding out which <bleep> window is the active one [1].
[1] Yep, there's a setting for that. No, it doesn't do what it says it
does. [2]
[2] But don't you worry, if you can find an old equivalent program for a 'new' non-working one, you can still can get coloured title bars. [3]
[3] But you can't when you do silly things like using Notepad, Settings,
Task Manager and other built-in Windows 11 stuff.
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
I revamp considerably the way the way MS seems to expect me to use the >operating system, and those factors have more to do with my productivity
than anything I intend to see in the next upgrade. Anything with
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity,
is at least a misdemeanor! ; ) Maybe they will provide us with a decent >"backup" program?
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
I revamp considerably the way the way MS seems to expect me to use the
operating system, and those factors have more to do with my productivity
than anything I intend to see in the next upgrade. Anything with
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity,
is at least a misdemeanor! ; ) Maybe they will provide us with a decent
"backup" program?
I don't think that the changes are difficult to get used to.
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Why wouldn't it be, though? Why wouldn't one want to have the most
recent version supported by their hardware?
On 5/3/23 01:48, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Why wouldn't it be, though? Why wouldn't one want to have the most
recent version supported by their hardware?
Hi Joel and Bill,
One of the hassles I face doig my jobs
is dealing with the "I CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING
NEW" crowd. I do my best to accommodate, but
sometimes they back me up against a wall.
I do see Bill's point. I am all for newer
and better. I ADORE bug fix and maintenance
updates that do not add features.
But I am not for newer and not better. I do not
like being a beta tester for something that is touted
as general release. M$ uses its customers suchlike.
M$ seems to me to dump their OS'es after they get
them patched to a point of somewhat stability
and add features and improve what they
have (I really wanted a Super XP). Instead
they start over and drive their users nuts with
bugs. Vista for example. W11 and their network
print problems and awkward rip off of Chromebook's
UI too.
So build a better mousetrap, people will
come. Build a worse mousetrap, lie about
it with weasel/cockroach cross breeds
in your marketing department, no thank you.
As far as W11 goes, I'd wait a few years before
dumping W10. Let M$ come out of beta
testing and jump to release candidate. (They
never really go into a general release.)
Of course, by then when W11 settles down, M$ will
be trumpeting W12. Wonder whose UI they will
steal then.
On 5/2/2023 9:03 AM, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
On 2 May 2023 18:41:53 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote in
news:Ls04M.399607$wfQc.320399@fx43.iad:
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
Rounded window corners instead of square.
And Windows without in-focus coloured title bars, so you can enjoy the game of finding out which <bleep> window is the active one [1].
That's incredibly annoying, I agree.
[1] Yep, there's a setting for that. No, it doesn't do what it says it does. [2]
Thanks for saving me going looking for it, only to be disappointed.
[2] But don't you worry, if you can find an old equivalent program for a 'new' non-working one, you can still can get coloured title bars. [3]
That 'new' non-working one would be Explorer, correct? Or is there
something else that manages Windows 11's desktop? (When I restart
Explorer, the desktop blinks, so Explorer must be at least part of
the picture.)
[3] But you can't when you do silly things like using Notepad, Settings, Task Manager and other built-in Windows 11 stuff.
Win11 is already a very stable, up to date OS.
It is because it really is W10 with a different UI.
M$ did not do a complete rewrite this time.
I still have customer's with W11 issues. Sometimes
W10 software won't work in W11 and the ubiquitous
printing issues. (I am sneaky and get around
a lot of the printing issues.)
And yes, some customers get really pissed at the
new and not improved UI's, which is understandable
to a point. (My big solution is Open Shell and
creating desktop icons for their favorite programs.)
If they let me do my optimizing, it seems to have
calmed down though. Open Shell goes along way to
get over the awkward chromebook UI. Network
printing is still a pain in the ass.
I have been on Linux and Fedora for years now.
Qemu-kvm is an excellent platform to
run Windows Virtual Machines (VM) on. I
currently have XP, W7, W10, and W11 in VM's.
I do my Windows programming in W11 to make sure
my programs will work with the rest.
Speaking of Fedora Linux, I have to ask the OS
was version it is on to tell. Fedora builds
on what they have and does not trash and start
over.
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Why wouldn't it be, though? Why wouldn't one want to have the most
recent version supported by their hardware?
On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:48:23 -0400, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Why wouldn't it be, though? Why wouldn't one want to have the most
recent version supported by their hardware?
Because the user interface is inferior, or simply not
to one's liking?
Of course, by then when W11 settles down, M$ will
be trumpeting W12. Wonder whose UI they will
steal then.
Win11 is already a very stable, up to date OS.
On 5/2/2023 9:03 AM, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
I revamp considerably the way the way MS seems to expect me to use the >operating system, and those factors have more to do with my productivity
than anything I intend to see in the next upgrade. Anything with
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity,
is at least a misdemeanor! ; )
Maybe they will provide us with a decent
"backup" program?
On 5/3/2023 4:04 AM, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
I revamp considerably the way the way MS seems to expect me to use the
operating system, and those factors have more to do with my productivity >>> than anything I intend to see in the next upgrade. Anything with
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity,
is at least a misdemeanor! ; ) Maybe they will provide us with a decent >>> "backup" program?
I don't think that the changes are difficult to get used to.
Maybe not, but you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother.
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2023 04:48:23 -0400, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother [to upgrade Win10 to Win11].
Why wouldn't it be, though? Why wouldn't one want to have the most
recent version supported by their hardware?
Because the user interface is inferior, or simply not
to one's liking?
Ah, yes, but then again, haven't we heard that over and over again,
every time there's a new version with a facelift? I've simply
embraced the changes to Win11, and gotten accustomed to them. It's
trivial to do. All the usual talk about how the latest version is a
beta test, or introduces unwanted changes, ends up being irrelevant,
because you can't just keep using Windows XP for a century.
Funny, since I am on Fedora, which is "almost
cutting edge", I do some times get burned with
new things. I was working on a network issue
and got told that if running Fedora, it is
presumed that I will "keep up" with changes.
I do get burned a lot fewer than with
Windows upgrades though. Such is life.
Speaking of that, I have a bug to report on
their new networking method. But with
Fedora, you have a place to report bugs and
if you are detailed with the report and respectful,
odds are they will get fixed. This is why Fedora
keeps getting better with time.
The next big change in Fedora is iptables to
nftables. I took a look at nftables and spaced.
Couldn't figure out day from night. So
I am staying with iptables for now, but know I need
to "keep up" at some point.
Any issues I've had with 11, compared to 10, were minor at most.
On Tue, 2 May 2023 22:50:14 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity,
is at least a misdemeanor! ; )
I also don't like that, but it bothers me less than it does you. If
it's easy to change from a default, it's not terrible. What would
bother me much more would be not being to turn off that hiding.
On Wed, 3 May 2023 04:42:17 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 5/3/2023 4:04 AM, Joel wrote:
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
Using Win10 on 11-supported hardware is less good.
What advantages is Windows 11 putting on the table?
There are always under-the-hood tweaks in newer versions, presuming
one's hardware supports the newest.
You care enough about such things to upgrade?
I am increasingly of the mindset that manufacturers introduce
new models merely to stimulate us into thinking we need to "upgrade".
I revamp considerably the way the way MS seems to expect me to use the >>>> operating system, and those factors have more to do with my productivity >>>> than anything I intend to see in the next upgrade. Anything with
obfuscates the directories where my files are located I view as an
issue, unless I created the link myself. The fact that
file extensions are hidden by default if not a crime against humanity, >>>> is at least a misdemeanor! ; ) Maybe they will provide us with a decent >>>> "backup" program?
I don't think that the changes are difficult to get used to.
Maybe not, but you haven't made the point that it's worth the bother.
Moreover, even if it's easy to get used to a change, that doesn't mean
we prefer the change over the way it used to be.
There is very little built into Windows that I use. For example, I
don't use Task Manager, Edge, Mail, Backup, Calc, Notepad, Wordpad,
Search, and probably a few others that don't quickly come to mind.
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Funny, since I am on Fedora, which is "almost
cutting edge", I do some times get burned with
new things. I was working on a network issue
and got told that if running Fedora, it is
presumed that I will "keep up" with changes.
I do get burned a lot fewer than with
Windows upgrades though. Such is life.
Speaking of that, I have a bug to report on
their new networking method. But with
Fedora, you have a place to report bugs and
if you are detailed with the report and respectful,
odds are they will get fixed. This is why Fedora
keeps getting better with time.
The next big change in Fedora is iptables to
nftables. I took a look at nftables and spaced.
Couldn't figure out day from night. So
I am staying with iptables for now, but know I need
to "keep up" at some point.
Yeah, it's interesting to run Fedora, actually, because of the
constant updates, it wasn't really ideal for me, and yet, in theory,
the distro is one of the very best. But ultimately, Mint was the one
that did the trick, for me.
On Wed, 03 May 2023 08:27:15 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
There is very little built into Windows that I use. For example, I
don't use Task Manager, Edge, Mail, Backup, Calc, Notepad, Wordpad,
Search, and probably a few others that don't quickly come to mind.
What do you use instead of Calc, out of curiosity?
My don't use-from-Windows list is similar to yours: phasing out Task
Manager in favor of TMX per your recommendation,(*) don't use Edge,
Mail, Backup, **Paint**, Notepad, Wordpad, or **CharMap**.
Instead of Paint I use Irfanview. It's clunky, but I'm used to its
quirks.
Instead of CharMap I use BabelMap: <https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html>
Just wait for Windows 12!
I also don't like that, but it bothers me less than it does you. If
it's easy to change from a default, it's not terrible. What would
bother me much more would be not being to turn off that hiding.
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time
with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch
active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes control
to Windows which when enabled places the device in a hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
On 5/4/2023 12:28 AM, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time
with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch
active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes control
to Windows which when enabled places the device in a hibernation state
instead of a full shutdown.
Yes, but I believe it makes the computer more vulnerable to certain
sorts of virus'.
Yeah, it's interesting to run Fedora, actually, because of the
constant updates, it wasn't really ideal for me, and yet, in
theory, the distro is one of the very best.
With 'Calc' you guys probably mean calc.exe, don't you.
[Typing 'calc' in the Open-Shell Menu :-) 'Search' box, pointed me to calc.exe. calc.exe (in C:\Windows\System32) is apparently a stub, which invokes the 'Calculator' *app* (in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps).]
Yeah, it's interesting to run Fedora, actually, because of the
constant updates, it wasn't really ideal for me, and yet, in
theory, the distro is one of the very best.
What theory would that be, pray tell?
On 5/4/2023 1:15 AM, Bill wrote:
On 5/4/2023 12:28 AM, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes control to Windows which when enabled places the device in a hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
Yes, but I believe it makes the computer more vulnerable to certain sorts of virus'.
Oops, well, I'm not in a position to judge between fast boot and fast start.
On 3 May 2023 17:51:40 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
With 'Calc' you guys probably mean calc.exe, don't you.
[Typing 'calc' in the Open-Shell Menu :-) 'Search' box, pointed me to
calc.exe. calc.exe (in C:\Windows\System32) is apparently a stub, which
invokes the 'Calculator' *app* (in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps).]
Not sure what point you're making here. It sort of
sounds like you're saying there are two different
Windows calculators, but if one just points to the
other that doesn't seem like a real difference to me.
Interestingly, in Windows 11 I don't even have read
access to "C:\Program Files\WindowsApps".
On Wed, 03 May 2023 08:27:15 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
There is very little built into Windows that I use. For example, I
don't use Task Manager, Edge, Mail, Backup, Calc, Notepad, Wordpad,
Search, and probably a few others that don't quickly come to mind.
What do you use instead of Calc, out of curiosity?
My don't use-from-Windows list is similar to yours: phasing out Task
Manager in favor of TMX per your recommendation,(*) don't use Edge,
Mail, Backup, **Paint**, Notepad, Wordpad, or **CharMap**.
Instead of Paint I use Irfanview. It's clunky, but I'm used to its
quirks.
Instead of CharMap I use BabelMap: ><https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html>
(*) I suppose it would help me to transition if I changed
Ctrl+Shift+Esc to point to TMX instead of Task Manager, but I'm not
sure Windows will let me do that. Hmm ... I could probably remap the
key combo with AutoHotkey.
On 5/4/2023 1:16 AM, Bill wrote:
On 5/4/2023 1:15 AM, Bill wrote:
On 5/4/2023 12:28 AM, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot
time with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to
launch active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes
control to Windows which when enabled places the device in a
hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
Yes, but I believe it makes the computer more vulnerable to certain
sorts of virus'.
Oops, well, I'm not in a position to judge between fast boot and fast
start.
Some of it is covered here. Just not this particular topic.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/secure-the-windows-10-boot-process
When the OS uses a hibernated kernel, it isn't just a
matter of loading a bitmap in a hurry, setting the PC Counter
and "letting 'er rip". The hardware devices, the complex ones,
the registers are not set on them yet. By calling an init()
routine in each driver, the hardware is brought up to a state
where it is ready to handle commands or command lists. This is
because registers in hardware, are of different "types", and some
are resistant to playback. You can, for example, make write-only
registers.
If they wanted, the kernel could still verify each driver,
verify signing or the like. They can't really engineer such
a kernel hibernation mechanism and be making it a default, unless
the booting process is handled as scrupulously as when loading
the files individually.
The time savings may not be all that great, by hibernating
the kernel and drivers. If you have a dreadfully slow hard
drive (like my Seagate 5900RPM drive the other day), I think
the time difference could be quite significant. With SSDs
though, you might be shaving a whole second off the time
for the desktop to appear. The disk with the slow seek, still
had good sustained linear transfer at 190MB/sec, so a kernel+drivers
image could load quickly. The straight-line speed of my SATA SSD
isn't really all that much faster. It's still a bit of a slug.
It's the near-zero seek time of the SSD, that makes a big
difference. Especially when the AV is doing its initial scan
and using up all the disk bandwidth :-)
Paul
On 3 May 2023 17:51:40 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
With 'Calc' you guys probably mean calc.exe, don't you.
[Typing 'calc' in the Open-Shell Menu :-) 'Search' box, pointed me to calc.exe. calc.exe (in C:\Windows\System32) is apparently a stub, which invokes the 'Calculator' *app* (in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps).]
Not sure what point you're making here. It sort of
sounds like you're saying there are two different
Windows calculators, but if one just points to the
other that doesn't seem like a real difference to me.
Interestingly, in Windows 11 I don't even have read
access to "C:\Program Files\WindowsApps".
Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Interestingly, in Windows 11 I don't even have read
access to "C:\Program Files\WindowsApps".
Yeah, I saw that too, Couldn't be bothered to try to get access.
Probably quite a mess in/below there.
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time
with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch
active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes control
to Windows which when enabled places the device in a hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
On Wed, 03 May 2023 11:58:56 -0400, Joel wrote:
Yeah, it's interesting to run Fedora, actually, because of the
constant updates, it wasn't really ideal for me, and yet, in
theory, the distro is one of the very best.
What theory would that be, pray tell?
Imagine a world where M$ would fix anything youWhoa, you almost stopped my heart!!
reported to them ...
On 5/3/23 21:28, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time
with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch
active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes control
to Windows which when enabled places the device in a hibernation state
instead of a full shutdown.
You would think with the number of times I have
disabled it, that I'd remember the exact name
for it.
T wrote:
On 5/3/23 21:28, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot time
with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to launch
active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes
control to Windows which when enabled places the device in a
hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
You would think with the number of times I have
disabled it, that I'd remember the exact name
for it.
Hope can be a fleeting, especially in moments where trouble appears.
On 5/6/23 00:04, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On 5/3/23 21:28, ...winston wrote:
T wrote:
On a new install, re-enabling file extensions
is the second thing I do, right after disabling
fast boot.
Fast Boot is a UEFI/BIOS/ option that reduces your computer boot
time with initialization of a minimal set of devices required to
launch active boot option.
Fast Start is a Windows feature that allows a faster startup of the
device after a shutdown and after the mobo boot process passes
control to Windows which when enabled places the device in a
hibernation state instead of a full shutdown.
You would think with the number of times I have
disabled it, that I'd remember the exact name
for it.
Hope can be a fleeting, especially in moments where trouble appears.
A lot of the times when I troubleshoot I have
a visual memory of when I see it but I could
not tell you the exact names of them. When
I can't log in with Go To Assist, I will often
ask the customer "do you see something to
the effect of ...". It works.
Fast boot / fast start up -- an unethical feature
of Windows -- is one of them. The unethical
part is M$ setting it by default and not
making it an additional feature of shutdown
so the user can pick what they want to do.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 297 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
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