After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank. I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:47:52 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote:
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank.
I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
I haven't had a virus in years
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I think Windows Defender, when properly set up, works just fine.
Maybe we need a news story (not a shill) that compares it against the rest?
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two anti-virus programs.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:56:05 +0200, soyon <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:47:52 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote:
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning >> to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank.
Two questions for Jim:
I've never heard of Trusteer. Can you provide a URL for it so I can
find out more about it?
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two anti-virus programs. They can slow down your computer, and even cause problems as they conflict with each other.
I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started >> me thinking.
I haven't had a virus in years
I have never been infected with a virus in all the 37 years I've been
using personal computers,
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
I think Windows Defender, when properly set up, works just fine.
I largely think the same. It's not perfect (see below), but it's as
good as any of the others, and better than many. Over the years, I've
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:18:41 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
I've seen your posts in the past so I know not to waste my time with your >idiotic comments which are always what stupid people would say.
All I'll say to your always stupid comments is that you are worthless.
You should kill yourself because then the human population will benefit.
Think about this question before you waste everyone's time with stupidity.
Is the only tool you ever used in all your 37 years on Windows a browser?
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
In article <rkkd3ipoj5ianbtusspankh1kmien48ejp@4ax.com>, >Ken@invalid.news.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:56:05 +0200, soyon <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:47:52 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote:
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I >> >> was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning >> >> to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank.
Two questions for Jim:
I've never heard of Trusteer. Can you provide a URL for it so I can
find out more about it?
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs. They can slow down your computer, and even cause
problems as they conflict with each other.
I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had >> >> any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started >> >> me thinking.
I haven't had a virus in years
I have never been infected with a virus in all the 37 years I've been
using personal computers,
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
I think Windows Defender, when properly set up, works just fine.
I largely think the same. It's not perfect (see below), but it's as
good as any of the others, and better than many. Over the years, I've
Trusteer Endpoint Protection AKA Rapport I believe >https://www.ibm.com/products/phishing-and-malware-protection#: >~:text=Protect%20client%20endpoints%20against%20malware%20and% >20phishing&text=Using%20industry%2Dleading%20technology%2C% >20Trusteer,them%20from%20entering%20phishing%20sites.
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank. I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
-
Jim the Geordie
In article <23rd3ilosfmp6ivhso2uhoufj4g8282aqr@4ax.com>,
Ken@invalid.news.com says...
Wasn't replying to you.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:09:20 +0100, Jim the Geordie
<jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
In article <rkkd3ipoj5ianbtusspankh1kmien48ejp@4ax.com>, >>>Ken@invalid.news.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:56:05 +0200, soyon <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:47:52 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote:
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I >>>> >> was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank.
Two questions for Jim:
I've never heard of Trusteer. Can you provide a URL for it so I can
find out more about it?
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs. They can slow down your computer, and even cause
problems as they conflict with each other.
I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan >>>> >> with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had >>>> >> any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page >>>> >> crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
I haven't had a virus in years
I have never been infected with a virus in all the 37 years I've been
using personal computers,
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
Find out for yourself.
Feel free to believe whatever you want about me. You can killfile me.
so you don't have to read my "always stupid comments."
I'm going to killfile you as soon as I send this message.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:09:20 +0100, Jim the GeordieWasn't replying to you.
<jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
In article <rkkd3ipoj5ianbtusspankh1kmien48ejp@4ax.com>, >Ken@invalid.news.com says...
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:56:05 +0200, soyon <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:47:52 +0100, Jim the Geordie wrote:
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I >> >> was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank.
Two questions for Jim:
I've never heard of Trusteer. Can you provide a URL for it so I can
find out more about it?
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs. They can slow down your computer, and even cause
problems as they conflict with each other.
I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had >> >> any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page >> >> crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
I haven't had a virus in years
I have never been infected with a virus in all the 37 years I've been
using personal computers,
& I go to as many dodgy web sites as anyone.
I avoid them as much as possible, and uBlock Origin helps to protect
me against them.
Ken Blake wrote:
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
Trusteer isn't AV, I don't use it, but several UK banks recommend it as
an "extra layer" of security ... it's owned by IBM.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:41:02 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
Feel free to believe whatever you want about me. You can killfile me.
so you don't have to read my "always stupid comments."
I'm going to killfile you as soon as I send this message.
What I think about you is based only on the stupid things that you say.
You haven't ever contributed to anything useful in any conversation.
Your problem of being stupid won't go away by you kill filing me.
Only you killfiling yourself will rid this newsgroup of your stupidity.
I have "!Delete From: Ken Blake" set up in my killfile so the only time I
see his whiny trash is when people like YOU respond to him. Stop that!
Rather that telling people who to killfile, why not make your rule
delete sub-threads instead of just single messages?
I have "!Delete From: Ken Blake" set up in my killfile so the only time I
see his whiny trash is when people like YOU respond to him. Stop that!
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank. I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
-
Jim the Geordie
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank. I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
-
Jim the Geordie
in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ provides.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:50:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$
provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
On 13 Apr 2023, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:50:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ >> provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
What's wrong with the one that Microsoft supplies native by default?
Nothing that I know of. I use it myself, on one of my computers.
What's wrong with the one that Microsoft supplies native by default?
Nothing that I know of. I use it myself, on one of my computers.
But Mark Lloyd said that it's somehow bad to use any other, and that statement is just plain silly.
gain, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two >anti-virus programs.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 02:50:00 +0200, Lars Anders wrote:
On 13 Apr 2023, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:50:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ >> >> provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
What's wrong with the one that Microsoft supplies native by default?
Nothing that I know of. I use it myself, on one of my computers.
But Mark Lloyd said that it's somehow bad to use any other, and that >statement is just plain silly.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:54:01 -0700, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Stan Brown wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 02:50:00 +0200, Lars Anders wrote:
On 13 Apr 2023, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:50:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ >>>>> provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
What's wrong with the one that Microsoft supplies native by default?
Nothing that I know of. I use it myself, on one of my computers.
But Mark Lloyd said that it's somehow bad to use any other, and that
statement is just plain silly.
I actually had a third-party AV hose my Windows 8.1 x64 machine because
its devs weren't keeping up with filesystem changes and weren't
communicating with Microsoft, and MS patched the filesystem one Tuesday,
as they had documented well in advance. Blammo. Nearly unbootable machine
due to file access issues. I unpatched the machine in safe mode and uninstalled the AV program before accepting the patch again.
Later, so people would stop blaming Microsoft for catastrophic system failures, Microsoft implemented a registry blocking flag that third-party
AV makers had to specifically toggle off when they fixed their garbage.
Defender has never done that and probably never will because it's made by
the Windows team. Official kernel-mode AV drivers for Defender are part
of the OS, so Microsoft would know immediately if they blew up an install
in such a way.
So, I would recommend that it's "best" not to use third-party AV, but not necessarily "bad." Just a bit daft in this day and age. Some of the added value of major suites may be worth it, but you're rolling the dice. Why
go third-party for something so integral to a modern OS?
Make an informed decision if you need a security suite's extra features.
A lot of them have better software firewalls, for instance.
Me? I stopped using third-party AV when *several* of them, including
mine, hosed Windows 8.1 due to sheer incompetence. Windows firewall does
what I need it to.
When I do use third-party AV, I never use realtime protection.
Ken Blake wrote:
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
Trusteer isn't AV, I don't use it, but several UK banks recommend it as
an "extra layer" of security ... it's owned by IBM.
After cancelling a subscription to one paid security package, because I
was advised that M$ Defender would be perfectly adequate, I am beginning
to have second thoughts.
Apart from Defender I use Trusteer as recommended by my bank. I do not
visit porn sites or open unidentifed links. I ocassionally do a scan
with Malwarebytes free, but do not have it installed and have never had
any flags.
Touch wood I have not had any trouble so far, except my Facebook page
crashed and I had to start from scratch with that, which is what started
me thinking.
In message <k9o4jhFg5joU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
Ken Blake wrote:
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
Trusteer isn't AV, I don't use it, but several UK banks recommend it as
an "extra layer" of security ... it's owned by IBM.
My bank used to recommend it, so I installed it. Thankfully they do so
no longer, so I uninstalled it, as I wasn't very impressed. I don't
think it and my AV utility ever had any problems in working together,
though.
When I do use third-party AV, I never use realtime protection.
Trusteer Endpoint Protection AKA Rapport I believe >https://www.ibm.com/products/phishing-and-malware-protection#: >~:text=Protect%20client%20endpoints%20against%20malware%20and% >20phishing&text=Using%20industry%2Dleading%20technology%2C% >20Trusteer,them%20from%20entering%20phishing%20sites.
"Zaghadka" <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote
| Defender has never done that and probably never will because it's made by
| the Windows team.
Before you get comfortable:
https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/11/microsoft_defender_firefox_fix/
Turns out Defender was causing Firefox to overuse the CPU...
for FIVE YEARS! I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to make Edge look
good and only fixed it because someone found out. This is the company
that used to design pages to only work in IE.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 02:50:00 +0200, Lars Anders wrote:
On 13 Apr 2023, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote :
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:50:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ >> >> provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
What's wrong with the one that Microsoft supplies native by default?
Nothing that I know of. I use it myself, on one of my computers.
But Mark Lloyd said that it's somehow bad to use any other, and that >statement is just plain silly.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:18:41 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
More specifically, it's a bad idea to run two simultaneously if both
are running as "active protection" or "real-time protection" or
similar.
I've never seen a case where running one with active protection and
the other only for on-demand scans caused a problem, and I've been
doing just that for decades. The on-demand-scans one is Malwarebytes
Free; the active protection one has varied over the years.
"soyon" <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote
| I've seen your posts in the past so I know not to waste my time with your
| idiotic comments which are always what stupid people would say.
|
Ken is a former MS MVP and is generally courteous
with others. If you don't like his comments then block
them. There's no excuse for being nasty with someone
who just gave you a serious, reasonable response to
your question.
I'd be inclined to think you're a dumbass for using 2-3
AV tools while doing something as risky as banking online.
To my mind that's like talking about life insurance while
skydiving. Life insurance can make sense, but that doesn't
justify the reckless risk of skydiving. Why would anyone do
something so stupid? For a thrill? Because they don't care
to live? Why would anyone bank online? Because you can't
be bothered to walk?... But I'm too polite to say all that. :)
I have 3 bank accounts. I've disabled all from online
functionality. (Which can't be done at my bank. I had
to call customer service.) Last week I was talking to
a friend who's had about $25K stolen from his account.
He though someone had somehow got his passwords,
but then they also used his new password. The bank told
him the problem must be on his Mac computer. He still
hasn't figured it out.
Since you clearly don't want to deal with script, browser
security, understanding online security, and so on, I'll just
suggest that you add a couple of Symantec products to
you imagined arsenal. It might not help, but you'll sleep
better and with any luck it will slow down your system so
much that you won't be able to do your online banking. :)
In article <GnhI5wAf97NkFwRk@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,
john_nospam@jhall.co.uk says...
In message <k9o4jhFg5joU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
Ken Blake wrote:
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
Trusteer isn't AV, I don't use it, but several UK banks recommend it as
an "extra layer" of security ... it's owned by IBM.
My bank used to recommend it, so I installed it. Thankfully they do so
no longer, so I uninstalled it, as I wasn't very impressed. I don't
think it and my AV utility ever had any problems in working together,
though.
Can you clarify please.
How did you find out that your bank no longer recommend it? Did they
contact you or did you ask them?
Why/how were you 'not impressed'.
You state that you have an AV utility; on pc or android?
Why do you feel that MS Defender is inadequate?
That said, this happened:
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint/antivirus-deletes-all-shortcuts-from-the-desktop/m-p/3715351
That's a bit more serious than your example. Defender is not iron-clad.
In message <MPG.3ea1d42823ae00d998973a@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim
the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> writes
In article <GnhI5wAf97NkFwRk@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,
john_nospam@jhall.co.uk says...
In message <k9o4jhFg5joU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
Ken Blake wrote:
Do you run both Defender and Trusteer? Again, I know nothing about
Trusteer, but in general, it's a bad idea to simultaneously run two
anti-virus programs.
Trusteer isn't AV, I don't use it, but several UK banks recommend it as >> >an "extra layer" of security ... it's owned by IBM.
My bank used to recommend it, so I installed it. Thankfully they do so
no longer, so I uninstalled it, as I wasn't very impressed. I don't
think it and my AV utility ever had any problems in working together,
though.
Can you clarify please.
How did you find out that your bank no longer recommend it? Did they >contact you or did you ask them?
It was several years ago, and my memory is so bad these days that I
can't recall how I found out. I certainly wasn't proactive enough to ask them, though.
Why/how were you 'not impressed'.
I had it installed as an extension to my Chrome browser; IIRC it's specifically for preventing malware key-loggers from recording traffic between one's own machine and websites. But ISTR that the extension
would occasionally go AWOL or would cause a problem with the browser.
You state that you have an AV utility; on pc or android?
PC.
Why do you feel that MS Defender is inadequate?
I've had an AV utility for many years, since back when MS Defender
wasn't as good as it is now or possibly before it even existed, back in Windows 98 days I think. Most recently I've been using Malwarebytes,
which seems to work well. It and MS Defender seem to co-exist happily.
"soyon" <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote
| I've seen your posts in the past so I know not to waste my time with your
| idiotic comments which are always what stupid people would say.
|
Ken is a former MS MVP and is generally courteous
with others. If you don't like his comments then block
them. There's no excuse for being nasty with someone
who just gave you a serious, reasonable response to
your question.
I'd be inclined to think you're a dumbass
Newyana2 <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:
"soyon" <soyon@soyon.biz> wrote
| I've seen your posts in the past so I know not to waste my time with your >> | idiotic comments which are always what stupid people would say.
|
Ken is a former MS MVP and is generally courteous
with others. If you don't like his comments then block
them. There's no excuse for being nasty with someone
who just gave you a serious, reasonable response to
your question.
I'd be inclined to think you're a dumbass
You could be on to something there! :-)
Pops up out of the blue. My notes of well over a year ago say "sounds
like <insert_resident_nymshifter>". At the time, it used Aioe.org. Now
that Aioe.org is dead, it uses another shady provider. I could be wrong,
but in this matter I'm mostly not. YMMV.
To Ken: Keep on posting.
We're all different. Your style is your
style. My style is my style.
And Mayayana ..., well I should probably
stop right there! :-)
[...]
snip <
You state that you have an AV utility; on pc or android?
PC.
I've had an AV utility for many years, since back when MS Defender
wasn't as good as it is now or possibly before it even existed, back in Windows 98 days I think. Most recently I've been using Malwarebytes,
which seems to work well. It and MS Defender seem to co-exist happily.
It may well be that MS Defender would be adequate on its own, but I've
been happy to leave things be.
On 13/04/2023 17:00, John Hall wrote:
snip <
PC.
You state that you have an AV utility; on pc or android?
Presumably running Windows 10 (as this is a Windows 10 group)
I've had an AV utility for many years, since back when MS Defender
wasn't as good as it is now or possibly before it even existed, back
in Windows 98 days I think. Most recently I've been using
Malwarebytes, which seems to work well. It and MS Defender seem to
co-exist happily. It may well be that MS Defender would be adequate
on its own, but I've been happy to leave things be.
The free version of Malwarebytes turns off any installed anti virus
programme & acts as a 'resident', always on, anti virus.
After a month it reverts to being an 'on demand' scanner only, unless
you opt to pay & go pro.
Just be aware that in reverting to being an 'on demand' scanner it
fails to turn back on the anti virus programme it previously turned off.
From what I've heard. it's best not to use any AV other than the one M$ provides.
It's not April 1st anymore.
The free version of Malwarebytes turns off any installed anti virus
programme & acts as a 'resident', always on, anti virus.
After a month it reverts to being an 'on demand' scanner only, unless
you opt to pay & go pro.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:00:17 +0100, wasbit wrote:
The free version of Malwarebytes turns off any installed anti virus
programme & acts as a 'resident', always on, anti virus.
After a month it reverts to being an 'on demand' scanner only, unless
you opt to pay & go pro.
A better way to say that:
When you install the free version of Malwarebytes, you have the
_option_ of a one-month trial of the paid version, which includes
real-time protection.
But you don't have to accept that, and if you don't, Malwarebytes
doesn't do anything to any real-time protection you have from another antivirus program.
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