• Re: May I vent about how much I hate Adobe Acrobat Reader please?

    From gtr@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Wed Apr 5 09:48:03 2023
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    On 2023-04-05 09:41:17 +0000, RonTheGuy said:

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Two products you never want to install on Windows are the Adobe acrobat
    product and the paint shop pro product.

    If you really want to see a mess of your clean setup, install PSP.
    Then uninstall PSP.

    Then spend the rest of your life trying to figure out how to undo all teh
    menu crap that PSP leaves behind.

    Rule of them is those two products are probably the worst.
    Unless someone knows of even worse behaved products than adobe & psp?

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 08:41:17 2023
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    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Wed Apr 5 12:56:13 2023
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    On 4/5/2023 12:41 PM, RonTheGuy wrote:
    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    I've noticed the same thing. I don't need a link to it on my desktop,
    but every once in a while, I notice a new one there. If you find an
    effective way to manage this, you'll probably please lots of people!




    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.


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  • From Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 17:14:45 2023
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    [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

    RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> spake the secret code <1eef84q9bflxu.dlg@news.solani.org> thusly:

    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    I've been happy using SumatraPDF as my reader.

    Out of curiosity, what reader do you have set as your default PDF reader?
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/04/2023 17:41, RonTheGuy wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1eef84q9bflxu.dlg@news.solani.org">
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    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.


    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    This is not quite true. Adobe updates, or any other updates or
    upgrades for that matter, CANNOT be installed without the user's
    permission. Specifically, a user with Administrator privileges is
    required to install the updates or upgrades. You can achieve this by
    making sure you create two USER accounts - The first one created at
    the time of installing the OS or setting up the OS on a brand new
    machine is always an Administrator account by default. You should
    keep this account but DON'T use it for every day use. Create a
    second user account - Ordinary User, and use this account for
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    The only exception is Microsoft Security Definition files which are
    installed automatically but these too can be tamed if you designate
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    download. Microsoft will NEVER download and Install any updates
    under these circumstances.<br>
    <br>
    You need to learn how to control your machine and use it most
    effectively to get work done profitably!! This means you can
    continue using some free software from big software houses such as
    Adobe, Google, Microsoft, Oracle or even Mozilla, though Mozilla is
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Wed Apr 5 13:37:52 2023
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    On 4/5/2023 12:41 PM, RonTheGuy wrote:
    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.


    "Adobe Refresh Manager" or ARM, an updater that can update itself.
    The service is the evil bit, that keeps it alive. Like a malware would.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

    autoruns64.exe # lists stuff

    Adobe Acrobat Update Task Adobe Reader and Acrobat Manager Adobe Inc.
    c:\program files (x86)\common files\adobe\arm\1.0\adobearm.exe 2/1/2023 8:44 PM

    AdobeARMservice Adobe Acrobat Updater keeps your Adobe software up to date.
    Adobe Inc.
    c:\program files (x86)\common files\adobe\arm\1.0\armsvc.exe 2/1/2023 8:43 PM

    *******

    Even the updater, updates itself, judging by date stamp.
    The MSI is the installer for the Updater.

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\Cache
    Name: Arm_018244601042_3410575711391224984732579583162061827.msi
    Size: 1058816 bytes (1034 KiB)
    SHA1: E6E5E9F7B299A95983D5AC6D90BFEC8F3AD67D70

    Title: Adobe Refresh Manager

    The number 76E2369A-75BA-41F9-8B9E-16059E5CF9A6 , you may find other bits of that (CLSID?)
    elsewhere in the Registry. While this is part of the evil, this isn't necessarily all of it.

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{76E2369A-75BA-41F9-8B9E-16059E5CF9A6}\Policy•#3•SZ
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{76E2369A-75BA-41F9-8B9E-16059E5CF9A6}\AppPath•[ARM_1.0]•SZ
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{76E2369A-75BA-41F9-8B9E-16059E5CF9A6}\AppName•AdobeARM.exe•SZ

    *******

    https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-delete-adobearmservice.html

    # Open an Administrator shell. You will be removing the executables, including the MSI file.

    sc.exe stop AdobeARMservice
    sc.exe delete AdobeARMservice

    del "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

    Maybe that will cripple it a little bit, unless... Acrobat Reader installer
    is run again. Then, it will come back of course. Like a skin disease.

    Paul

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Apr 5 13:07:41 2023
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    On 4/5/2023 12:37 PM, Paul wrote:

    https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-delete-adobearmservice.html

       # Open an Administrator shell. You will be removing the executables, including the MSI file.

       sc.exe stop AdobeARMservice
       sc.exe delete AdobeARMservice

       del "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

    FWIW, I got a "cannot find/path does not exist" error.
    I went in manually and deleted it.

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to Richard on Wed Apr 5 12:01:29 2023
    XPost: comp.text.pdf

    On Apr 05, 2023, Richard wrote
    (in article<news:u0kaa5$20hse$1@news.xmission.com>):

    Out of curiosity, what reader do you have set as your default PDF reader?

    I looked in Win+I > apps > default apps and was surprised it's not there
    Email = Thunderbird
    Maps = none
    Music player = MPC-BE x64
    Photo viewer = IrfanView 64-bit
    Video player = VLC media player
    Web browser = Epic Privacy Browser

    Looking for where the PDF defaults are set I saw below those
    Choose default apps by file type
    Choose default apps by protocol
    Set default by app
    Recommended browser settings (what is that doing there?)

    Pressing on "Choose default apps by file type" I scrolled down the
    alphabetical listing of filename extensions to see these are set

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.
    PDF File (.pdf) = Foxit Reader 9.3
    Foxit Reader PPDF Document (.ppdf) = Foxit Reader 9.3 (what is that?) PostScript (.ps) = gsview64.exe

    Clicking on "Set default by app" I first checked out the Foxit Reader
    FDF file (.fdf) = Choose a default
    PDF File (.pdf) = Foxit Reader 9.3
    Foxit Reader PPDF Document (.ppdf) = Foxit Reader 9.3
    XDP file (.xdp) = Choose a default
    XFDF file (.xfdf) = Choose a default
    FOXITREADER = Choose a default

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Apr 6 05:15:33 2023
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    On 4/5/2023 2:07 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 4/5/2023 12:37 PM, Paul wrote:

    https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-delete-adobearmservice.html

        # Open an Administrator shell. You will be removing the executables, including the MSI file.

        sc.exe stop AdobeARMservice
        sc.exe delete AdobeARMservice

        del "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

    FWIW, I got a "cannot find/path does not exist" error.
    I went in manually and deleted it.


    Start a Terminal. It starts in PowerShell:

    Install the latest PowerShell for new features and improvements! https://aka.ms/PSWindows

    PS> cd "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"
    cd : Cannot find path

    Now, we launch Command Prompt instead:

    PS> cmd
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22621.1413]
    (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\ > cd /d "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM>

    *******

    That means the expansion only works in Command Prompt.

    The "cd /d" allows presentation of an absolute path, as
    a source for a change of directory. Then the

    %PROGRAMFILES(X86)%

    gets expanded in Command Prompt, to the value list in "set".

    ProgramFiles(x86) = C:\Program Files (x86)

    Paul

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Apr 6 08:54:37 2023
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    On 4/6/2023 4:15 AM, Paul wrote:
    On 4/5/2023 2:07 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 4/5/2023 12:37 PM, Paul wrote:

    https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-delete-adobearmservice.html

        # Open an Administrator shell. You will be removing the
    executables, including the MSI file.

        sc.exe stop AdobeARMservice
        sc.exe delete AdobeARMservice

        del "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

    FWIW, I got a "cannot find/path does not exist" error.
    I went in manually and deleted it.


    Start a Terminal. It starts in PowerShell:

       Install the latest PowerShell for new features and improvements! https://aka.ms/PSWindows

       PS> cd "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"
       cd : Cannot find path

    Now, we launch Command Prompt instead:

       PS> cmd
       Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22621.1413]
       (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

       C:\ > cd /d "%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\"

       C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM>

    *******

    That means the expansion only works in Command Prompt.

    The "cd /d" allows presentation of an absolute path, as
    a source for a change of directory. Then the

       %PROGRAMFILES(X86)%

    gets expanded in Command Prompt, to the value list in "set".

       ProgramFiles(x86)   =    C:\Program Files (x86)

      Paul

    Yes, that works. Thanks for the info!

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  • From jetjock@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Thu Apr 6 13:10:42 2023
    On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:41:17 -0800, RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> wrote:

    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

    I ain't any way near as smart as Paul, or some others in this group,
    but I would get "Revo Uninstall" and remove Adobe Acrobat. If computer
    says it need to reboot after uninstalling, DON'T do it. Run the "Scan"
    feature of Revo and you will be amazed at all the crap that the Adobe unistaller left behind. Delete all the leftovers, then get a copy of
    Nitro PDF Pro (https://www.gonitro.com/download), or you can find it
    with a good Torrent program if you prefer. I've been using it for
    years with excellent results. Just used it to fill out income tax
    returns!

    >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 12:23:58 2023
    In article <v52u2it2ofq4tku5kgkerabcmes2vtbheg@4ax.com>, jetjock wrote...

    On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:41:17 -0800, RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> wrote:

    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

    I ain't any way near as smart as Paul, or some others in this group,
    but I would get "Revo Uninstall" and remove Adobe Acrobat. If computer
    says it need to reboot after uninstalling, DON'T do it. Run the "Scan" feature of Revo and you will be amazed at all the crap that the Adobe unistaller left behind. Delete all the leftovers, then get a copy of
    Nitro PDF Pro (https://www.gonitro.com/download), or you can find it
    with a good Torrent program if you prefer. I've been using it for
    years with excellent results. Just used it to fill out income tax
    returns!

    >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

    +1 for Revo Uninstaller. The worst offenders at leaving junk behind are the big-name antivirus programs, which often leave *thousands* of fragments behind in the file system and registry.

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 16:26:37 2023
    On 07 Apr 2023, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid>
    wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    +1 for Revo Uninstaller. The worst offenders at leaving junk
    behind are the big-name antivirus programs, which often leave
    *thousands* of fragments behind in the file system and registry.

    As with any powerful tool, you have the ability to great damage as well
    as good. I use Revo all the time, but I have also let it mess things up
    on my system by allowing it to remove things it shouldn't have.

    Gotta be careful. If you're in doubt, leave it be. With great power
    comes great responsibility (Spiderman, 1962.)

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Nil on Sat Apr 8 00:32:22 2023
    Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
    On 07 Apr 2023, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid>
    wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    +1 for Revo Uninstaller. The worst offenders at leaving junk
    behind are the big-name antivirus programs, which often leave
    *thousands* of fragments behind in the file system and registry.

    As with any powerful tool, you have the ability to great damage as well
    as good. I use Revo all the time, but I have also let it mess things up
    on my system by allowing it to remove things it shouldn't have.

    Gotta be careful. If you're in doubt, leave it be. With great power
    comes great responsibility (Spiderman, 1962.)

    And always back up.
    --
    "Seek good, not evil, that you may live. Then the LORD God Almighty will be with you, just as you say he is." --Amos 5:14. TGIGF, but 2 many tech issues on a Holy wk!
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to jetjock on Fri Apr 7 21:02:01 2023
    On 4/6/2023 2:10 PM, jetjock wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:41:17 -0800, RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> wrote:

    For years I've been using an older copy of the Adobe Acrobat Writer.
    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    Ever since then, Adobe keeps installing updates to the reader.
    I know this because on my desktop shows up this black eye of the icon.

    I though I deleted the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
    But it keeps coming back.

    What is Adobe doing to make the Reader keep coming back.
    I don't really mind it on my system as long as they leave it alone.

    Why can't Adobe leave me be with my older version of Acrobat writer?

    Why does Adobe keep forcing the useless reader on me every few months?
    And changing my defaults so that I have to set them back to the writer?

    What is wrong with Adobe that they can't respect your wishes?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

    I ain't any way near as smart as Paul, or some others in this group,
    but I would get "Revo Uninstall" and remove Adobe Acrobat. If computer
    says it need to reboot after uninstalling, DON'T do it. Run the "Scan" feature of Revo and you will be amazed at all the crap that the Adobe unistaller left behind. Delete all the leftovers, then get a copy of
    Nitro PDF Pro (https://www.gonitro.com/download), or you can find it
    with a good Torrent program if you prefer. I've been using it for
    years with excellent results. Just used it to fill out income tax
    returns!

    >>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<


    There's nothing wrong with that response.

    What I like to leave behind in the fossil record, is a "root cause".
    In case anyone wants to know. Adobe made it, so the accepted
    practices on Windows were ignored by them, and we cannot really
    leave that, unsifted, now can we :-)

    Sure, Revo solves it, but if we keep using Revo, we
    "normalize bad practice". And I want people to know
    what companies don't follow best practice. Google is
    another one, with their twisted GoogleUpdater stuff.
    It is "supposed" to leave the machine when all Google
    products are removed -- the software is perfectly capable
    of working that out for itself. But (of course), the
    crappy crap stays put.

    We have to ferret each one of
    these mothers out, and comment on them.

    Paul

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  • From Richard Jones@21:1/5 to Richard on Tue Apr 11 11:16:18 2023
    XPost: comp.text.pdf

    On 05/04/2023 18:14, Richard wrote:
    [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

    RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> spake the secret code <1eef84q9bflxu.dlg@news.solani.org> thusly:

    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    I've been happy using SumatraPDF as my reader.

    Out of curiosity, what reader do you have set as your default PDF reader?

    Thanks for the Sumatra PDF suggestion. Now installed in place of the
    ages old acrobat reader I had been using.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to news@rgjones.screaming.net on Tue Apr 11 07:41:20 2023
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    On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:16:18 +0100, Richard Jones
    <news@rgjones.screaming.net> wrote:

    On 05/04/2023 18:14, Richard wrote:
    [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

    RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> spake the secret code
    <1eef84q9bflxu.dlg@news.solani.org> thusly:

    A year or two ago, I needed the Adobe Acrobat Reader once.
    I needed it to read a newer-PDF format.
    I never made the reader my default PDF reader.

    I've been happy using SumatraPDF as my reader.

    Out of curiosity, what reader do you have set as your default PDF reader?

    Thanks for the Sumatra PDF suggestion. Now installed in place of the
    ages old acrobat reader I had been using.


    I used to use Sumatra and I think it's a pretty good choice. But I now
    use Foxit Reader, which I think is even better.

    Don't take my word for it. but I do recommend that you try it and
    decide for yourself which you like better.

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  • From Richard@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 11 17:01:48 2023
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    [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

    Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> spake the secret code <01sa3i9ft3b96vse56slk3appr7vq1p49l@4ax.com> thusly:

    I used to use Sumatra and I think it's a pretty good choice. But I now
    use Foxit Reader, which I think is even better.

    My only complaint with Sumatra is that it sizes the current page based
    on the widest page in the document when I say "fit to width".

    Many document scanners now "autodetect" a landscape oriented page in a
    portrait document and rotate the page. So in a document with hundreds
    of pages, all the portrait pages get forced to shrink in the viewer
    because there is one landscape oriented page in the document.

    Personally, I turn this off when I'm scanning documents, but I can't
    control what other people do when they scan documents.
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