• Re: HP Envy H9 cannot run Media Creation Tool for Win 10

    From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to toylet.toylet@gmail.com on Sun Mar 26 09:30:55 2023
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 00:16:04 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:


    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running >MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)


    Why would you do a clean installation of Windows 10, do updates to it,
    then upgrade to Windows 10 rather than doing what you call a "last
    resort," simply doing a clean installation of 10?

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 00:16:04 2023
    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Sun Mar 26 17:26:37 2023
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe

    running "as admin"?

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Sun Mar 26 18:45:26 2023
    Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)

    Huh? If you already have a Windows 10 ISO, then why can't you just use
    *that* to *upgrade* - not clean install - to Windows 10?

    That's what I did with my wife's Windows 8.1 system.

    BTW, do you really have Windows *8* or is it 8.1? If really 8, that
    may be the/a cause that the Media Creation Tool is failing.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Sun Mar 26 15:12:09 2023
    On 3/26/2023 12:16 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)

    It's some silly comms issue.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/media-creation-tool-error-code-0x80072f8f-0x20000/4f8bbe1c-b5af-4cc9-958e-c6c8f3f0b524

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392#bkmk_easy

    "Some server that the MediaCreationTool21H2.exe tries to talk to
    apparently no longer speaks the old TLS 1.0 security protocol,
    but Windows 7 SP1 still has the newer TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 disabled
    by default, resulting in this error code right at the start. So I had
    to first run the "Easy fix 51044" MSI to make a few registry changes
    to enable the more recent TLS versions, and then Media Creation Tool
    - error code 0X80072F8F - 0X20000 no longer appeared."

    This is presumably a Win7 SP1 link.

    https://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/5/0658B1A7-6D2E-474F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi

    This tells you roughly what it is trying to do. We can use this as
    a hint as to what to check on Windows 8.1 .

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/247500/tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-easy-fix-download-missing

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp]
    "DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000AA8

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp]
    "DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000AA8

    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings] \___ Mine
    "SecureProtocols"=dword:00000A80 /

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]
    "SecureProtocols"=dword:00000A80

    I think just the one I could find, does the job. Because some other keys reference
    "SecureProtocols" for the information they need, rather than a hexadecimal numeric value.

    Tested with:

    Name: MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe
    Size: 19463448 bytes (18 MiB)
    SHA1: 1BF5F814FFE801B4E6F118E829C0D2821D78A60A

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/nhcG28vS/mediacreationtool-on-win81.gif

    Paul

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 26 20:55:00 2023
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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Sun Mar 26 20:50:47 2023
    On 3/26/2023 12:16 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)
    Dumb question:

    Windows 11 is the current version of the OS. Windows 11 will not
    install on older CPU. I beleive the Envy H9 comes with a third
    generation i7 processor, and is too old

    Are you sure you have the Media Creation tool for Windows 10 and not the
    one for Windows 11?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Mar 26 17:39:43 2023
    Paul wrote on 3/26/2023 12:12 PM:
    On 3/26/2023 12:16 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running
    MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)

    It's some silly comms issue.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/media-creation-tool-error-code-0x80072f8f-0x20000/4f8bbe1c-b5af-4cc9-958e-c6c8f3f0b524



    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392#bkmk_easy


      "Some server that the MediaCreationTool21H2.exe tries to talk to
       apparently no longer speaks the old TLS 1.0 security protocol,
       but Windows 7 SP1 still has the newer TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 disabled
       by default, resulting in this error code right at the start. So I had
       to first run the "Easy fix 51044" MSI to make a few registry changes
       to enable the more recent TLS versions, and then Media Creation Tool
       - error code 0X80072F8F - 0X20000 no longer appeared."

    This is presumably a Win7 SP1 link.

    https://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/5/0658B1A7-6D2E-474F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi


    This tells you roughly what it is trying to do. We can use this as
    a hint as to what to check on Windows 8.1 .

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/247500/tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-easy-fix-download-missing


    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\WinHttp]
    "DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000AA8

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
    Settings\WinHttp]
    "DefaultSecureProtocols"=dword:00000AA8

    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]    \___ Mine
    "SecureProtocols"=dword:00000A80
    /

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]
    "SecureProtocols"=dword:00000A80

    I think just the one I could find, does the job. Because some other keys reference
    "SecureProtocols" for the information they need, rather than a
    hexadecimal numeric value.

    Tested with:

    Name: MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe
    Size: 19463448 bytes (18 MiB)
    SHA1: 1BF5F814FFE801B4E6F118E829C0D2821D78A60A

       [Picture]

       https://i.postimg.cc/nhcG28vS/mediacreationtool-on-win81.gif

      Paul
    For Win 8.1(needed to upgrade to Win10)
    Why not just ensure TLS 1.0/1.1 is enabled in Control Panel/Internet Options/Advanced Tab?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to knuttle on Sun Mar 26 21:46:17 2023
    On 3/26/2023 8:55 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 3/26/2023 8:50 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 3/26/2023 12:16 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running
    MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    Already installed all necessary Win 8 updates. Prior to
    this, I have done a factory reset. So its Win 8 is clean.

    Can the problem be solved?

    (My last resort will do a clean install using Win 10 ISO!)
    Dumb question:

    Windows 11 is the current version of the OS.  Windows 11 will not install on older CPU.
    I beleive the Envy H9 comes with a third generation i7 processor, and is too old

    Are you sure you have the Media Creation tool for Windows 10 and not the one for Windows 11?
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    He has media. He installs these OSes a lot.

    So this is mainly about "engine details" rather than
    a particular result. I'm pretty sure there are Windows 10
    DVDs on his coffee table in the apartment.

    And he should be doing this from Windows 8.1 Home,
    rather than Windows 8.0 .

    But since the operation is not progressing to the
    point of showing a dialog, it's failing too early for
    these other details to matter.

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Mar 27 15:03:57 2023
    On 27/3/2023 12:26 am, Andy Burns wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running
    MediaCreationTool22H2.exe

    running "as admin"?

    It will automatically ask for Admin privilege!

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Mon Mar 27 15:04:53 2023
    On 27/3/2023 12:30 am, Ken Blake wrote:

    Why would you do a clean installation of Windows 10, do updates to it,
    then upgrade to Windows 10 rather than doing what you call a "last
    resort," simply doing a clean installation of 10?

    In-place upgrade... there are some free HP software that don't have an installers, but installed from the factory image.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 15:05:45 2023
    On 27/3/2023 8:39 am, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

    For Win 8.1(needed to upgrade to Win10)
    Why not just ensure TLS 1.0/1.1 is enabled in Control Panel/Internet Options/Advanced Tab?


    Win 8 doers have TLS 1.2...

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Mon Mar 27 15:06:40 2023
    On 27/3/2023 2:45 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Huh? If you already have a Windows 10 ISO, then why can't you just use *that* to *upgrade* - not clean install - to Windows 10?

    That's what I did with my wife's Windows 8.1 system.

    BTW, do you really have Windows *8* or is it 8.1? If really 8, that
    may be the/a cause that the Media Creation Tool is failing.


    In-place upgrade... there are some free HP software that don't have an installers, but installed from the factory image.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Mar 27 15:11:17 2023
    On 27/3/2023 9:46 am, Paul wrote:

    He has media. He installs these OSes a lot.


    Yes, Your Honor!

    So this is mainly about "engine details" rather than
    a particular result. I'm pretty sure there are Windows 10
    DVDs on his coffee table in the apartment.

    And he should be doing this from Windows 8.1 Home,
    rather than Windows 8.0 .

    Um... maybe I should upgrade to 8.1 first? Ok... experiement time! :)

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Mar 27 15:09:48 2023
    On 27/3/2023 3:12 am, Paul wrote:

    This is presumably a Win7 SP1 link.

    https://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/5/0658B1A7-6D2E-474F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi

    Not applicable to Win 8 when I executed that patch.


    This tells you roughly what it is trying to do. We can use this as
    a hint as to what to check on Windows 8.1 .

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/247500/tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-easy-fix-download-missing

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    ...
    I think just the one I could find, does the job. Because some other keys reference
    "SecureProtocols" for the information they need, rather than a hexadecimal numeric value.

    Tested with:

    Name: MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe
    Size: 19463448 bytes (18 MiB)
    SHA1: 1BF5F814FFE801B4E6F118E829C0D2821D78A60A

    Didn't work. Same error when executing MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe. I
    did reboot the PC after applying the registries.

    I know both Win 8 and Win 8.1 have reached end-of-life, and I suppose
    the upgrade path to Win 10 should still work. :)

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Mon Mar 27 16:17:37 2023
    On 27/3/2023 12:16 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    I forgot that there is a SETUP.EXE in the official ISO
    of all Windows. So we don't have to upgrade with the Media
    Creation Tool. Sorry!

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Mon Mar 27 21:11:41 2023
    On 27/3/2023 4:17 pm, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 27/3/2023 12:16 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running
    MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    I forgot that there is a SETUP.EXE in the official ISO
    of all Windows. So we don't have to upgrade with the Media
    Creation Tool. Sorry!


    unfortunately, there were problems after the upgrade. At least, the
    Windows Defender could not be started. The error message was "“Your IT Administrator Has Limited Access”... Well...

    I better go the clean install route, after recovering the product key of
    Win 8 in the factory image.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Mon Mar 27 10:29:34 2023
    On 3/27/2023 3:09 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 27/3/2023 3:12 am, Paul wrote:

    This is presumably a Win7 SP1 link.

    https://download.microsoft.com/download/0/6/5/0658B1A7-6D2E-474F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi

    Not applicable to Win 8 when I executed that patch.


    This tells you roughly what it is trying to do. We can use this as
    a hint as to what to check on Windows 8.1 .

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/247500/tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-easy-fix-download-missing

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    ...
    I think just the one I could find, does the job. Because some other keys reference
    "SecureProtocols" for the information they need, rather than a hexadecimal numeric value.

    Tested with:

    Name: MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe
    Size: 19463448 bytes (18 MiB)
    SHA1: 1BF5F814FFE801B4E6F118E829C0D2821D78A60A

    Didn't work. Same error when executing MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe. I did reboot the PC after applying the registries.

    I know both Win 8 and Win 8.1 have reached end-of-life, and I suppose the upgrade path to Win 10 should still work. :)

    The qualifying OSes for Free Upgrade

    Win7 SP1
    Win8.1

    You should still be able to run MediaCreationTool22H2-W10.exe
    to fetch an ISO9660 file, for making media "for another PC".
    This works as long as the .NET for it is installed in the OS,
    and that places a bound on which Windows OSes can order media.

    But the program should refuse to install Windows 10 directly if your OS is:

    Win8.0

    I feel you should still have been offered a menu option.

    On the machine where you are executing this, does Windows Update work ? Or not ?

    Windows Update should suffer from the same communications problem as the program,
    if that is the problem.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Mon Mar 27 10:42:40 2023
    On 3/27/2023 9:11 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 27/3/2023 4:17 pm, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 27/3/2023 12:16 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a HP Envy H9 PC bundled with Windows 8 Home.

    Trying to upgrade to Win 10 by downloading and running
    MediaCreationTool22H2.exe, always failed with error
    0x80072f8f-0x200000.

    I forgot that there is a SETUP.EXE in the official ISO
    of all Windows. So we don't have to upgrade with the Media
    Creation Tool. Sorry!


    unfortunately, there were problems after the upgrade. At least, the Windows Defender could not be started. The error message was "“Your IT Administrator Has Limited Access”... Well...

    I better go the clean install route, after recovering the product key of Win 8 in the factory image.

    If it really is a Win8 machine, the license key is in the
    ACPI MSDM table.

    if it is a Win7 machine, the HP Royalty OEM OS is enabled
    by finding that the ACPI HP SLIC table is present. In such a case,
    the key in the OS is "bogus" and not suited to activating
    the machine. Windows 10 should be able to determine some
    of these conditions for itself, and activate anyway.

    Using Linux you can check for an MSDM table.

    https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-windows-10-oem-product-key-command/

    sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM

    or use acpidump

    If the machine is Refurbished by an official refurbisher,
    then the key is in the Registry. There might not be a
    COA sticker on the machine, after an official refurbisher
    has scratched the sticker off the machine. If a COA sticker
    was present, *that* is good for installing Windows 10.
    But that key may not be the current license key in the
    computer.

    Before giving up on the machine entirely, as it currently
    stands, turn it on again and boot and see if the policy
    has reverted on its own. I went through this charade just
    yesterday with a Win10 virtual machine. First, it claimed
    my administrator had done something. I installed Win10
    over top, and it still showed a bad status. But after
    a bit of Windows Update activity, it seemed to correct
    itself, and Windows Defender was then running again.

    This is hardly good operating policy for a computer to
    just be doing weird stuff on its own. There should at
    least be a dialog saying "we screwed up your settings
    for you on purpose".

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Mar 28 00:16:00 2023
    On 27/3/2023 10:42 pm, Paul wrote:

    If it really is a Win8 machine, the license key is in the
    ACPI MSDM table.

    It's a Win 8 machine. I used ProduKey to retrieve its
    product key.


    Using Linux you can check for an MSDM table.

    https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-windows-10-oem-product-key-command/

    sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM

    or use acpidump

    Never tried this before...

    If the machine is Refurbished by an official refurbisher,
    then the key is in the Registry. There might not be a
    COA sticker on the machine, after an official refurbisher
    has scratched the sticker off the machine. If a COA sticker
    was present, *that* is good for installing Windows 10.
    But that key may not be the current license key in the
    computer.

    There is no COA sticker with this HP Envy H9.


    Before giving up on the machine entirely, as it currently
    stands, turn it on again and boot and see if the policy
    has reverted on its own. I went through this charade just
    yesterday with a Win10 virtual machine. First, it claimed
    my administrator had done something. I installed Win10
    over top, and it still showed a bad status. But after
    a bit of Windows Update activity, it seemed to correct
    itself, and Windows Defender was then running again.

    I will keep the original SSD containing the broken
    Win 10 upgrade and the HP recovery partition till I had
    time to probe further about that “Your IT Administrator
    Has Limited Access”. It's really strange.... never seen
    it before.

    I am now using a spare hard disk to install Win 11 on
    it, hoping that I could activate Win 11 using the
    retrieved Win 8 product key. I had to switch to CSM mode.
    The UEFI mode of the HP Envy H9 BIOS kept ignoring my UEFI
    bootable USB.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Mr. Man-wai Chang on Tue Mar 28 01:55:59 2023
    On 28/3/2023 12:16 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's a Win 8 machine. I used ProduKey to retrieve its
    product key.

    ....

    I am now using a spare hard disk to install Win 11 on
    it, hoping that I could activate Win 11 using the
    retrieved Win 8 product key. I had to switch to CSM mode.
    The UEFI mode of the HP Envy H9 BIOS kept ignoring my UEFI
    bootable USB.

    OK, the extracted product key got activated.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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