https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
*From:* "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com>
*Date:* Sun, 26 Mar 2023 04:23:30 +0100
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers. Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of
personal computers, namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1 and 4.1, and IBM clone
business was thriving. People flocked to the cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing. IBM
made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who
dared copy it. Because of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft Windows won the PC war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote ><op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?
David Brooks wrote:
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
Some years after Windows 3.1.
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?
On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
I kinda liked the OS/2
I was really fond of it too. I hated when
it went away.
I kinda liked the OS/2
Ken Blake submitted this idea :
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?
I don't remember them as having the 'oblique wafer' type of drive
properties graphic.
David Brooks wrote:
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
Some years after Windows 3.1.
On 3/26/23 12:59, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
On 3/26/2023 3:32 PM, T wrote:
On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
I kinda liked the OS/2
I was really fond of it too. I hated when
it went away.
A computer is useless if you cannot find software for it. I remember
in OS/2 days most of the users were employees in banking
institutions. Banks can afford to pay through the nose for some
expensive word processing software from IBM.
I can do almost everything I want to do with my Windows OS. I use
free software from the internet, or pirated software from BitTorrent.
I find it challenging and enjoyable to dodge viruses and malware from
pirated software. After decades of practice I am very good at that.
My experience was built on having to re-install Windows literally
hundreds of times since Windows 95 days to purge nasty and persistent
malware.
The one thing loved about OS2 was that it could
run Windows software more stable and faster than
on Windows. And it was true multitasking.
I still use Word Pro and Approach (Smart Suite)
under Wine, which is a challenge at times.
IBM now gives it away for free now. I also use
Free Office and Libre Office. I have never need
M$ Office and as I refuse to pay their monopoly
price for it. And the fact that htey used
unethical practices to run their competitors
out of business.
I do not pirate. It is that "thou shalt not steal"
thing that Christians are commanded to follow. I do
no mind paying for software as long as it works
right and is reasonably priced. I renew my
Master PDF Editor every year without fail.
I do get my anti viruses (ESET) free as an NFR
(Not For Resale) as I resell it.
I run Fedora no-a-days with a lot of qemu-kvm virtual machines. Twelve
at last count. A few of them are
for testing ISOs and USB flash drives
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
On 3/26/23 05:26, this is what 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:I won a boxed OS/2 at some computer trade show back then. Yes, it was a fight between MS and IBM and I kinda liked the
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers. Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of
personal computers, namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1 and 4.1, and IBM clone
business was thriving. People flocked to the cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing. IBM
made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who
dared copy it. Because of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft Windows won the PC war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
OS/2. But yes, the cheap clones and pirate copies of Windows made the choice easy.
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
Which TV show, season, and episode?
Maybe not a real OS, but a customized one.
On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers.
Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of personal computers,
namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1
and 4.1, and IBM clone business was thriving. People flocked to the
cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing.
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. Because
of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft Windows won the PC war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI. Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI. >> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI. Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>> the software?
  🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't
we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against
it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If
it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to
have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you
press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS
loads when the OS is needing fixed.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
 🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology".
Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being
within it.
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't
we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
Pity that other proprietary company doesn't go the same way - Apple.
IBM are still screwing everyone around. World Community Grid has had
a lot of trouble converting from IBM servers to generic ones.
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> >> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>> the software?
  ? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we? >>>>The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ?
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against it, >> so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is correct: >>
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software into >> the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If it's >> a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to have to >> load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are similar? >> I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you press a key at >> power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a PC? I know there >> are some keys which do special things before the OS loads when the OS is
needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!
On 3/27/2023 4:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel"
technology".
Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being
within it.
"IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it."
You stopped reading, so you missed "in the motherboard". Motherboard is hardware.
Maybe I should have used "with it" instead of "within it".
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't
we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
Pity that other proprietary company doesn't go the same way - Apple.
IBM are still screwing everyone around. World Community Grid has had
a lot of trouble converting from IBM servers to generic ones.
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the >>>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>> the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't >>>>> we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against
it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is
correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If
it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to
have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are
similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you
press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a
PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS
loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!
I found this, which you may wish to explore:-
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode#:~:text
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!
I found this, which you may wish to explore:-
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode#:~:text
They say "On older PCs" which is wrong, they all have a BIOS you can go into and change settings.
They say "UEFI, or unified extensible firmware interface, is the name of the firmware in macOS that does the same job as BIOS on most Windows machines" which is also bollocks, modern PCs also use UEFI, but that doesn't stop there being a big menu of things to fiddle with. How else would you tweak stuff and overclock stuff?
"Apple doesn¹t allow users to navigate UEFI and adjust settings before the macOS loads" - ah now we get down to it. Apple controls everything, you don't get a say on how your own property functions.
So what you need to do is download the BIOS for your mac and reflash it from within the OS. I bet you can't, and you have to pay an Apple shop a billion pounds to do it for you, because they couldn't possibly trust end users to do that.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 11:11:37 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
On 3/27/2023 4:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology
in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>> the software?
 🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel"
technology".
Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being
within it.
"IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it."
You stopped reading, so you missed "in the motherboard". Motherboard is
hardware.
Maybe I should have used "with it" instead of "within it".
I understood what you said but didn't believe you, since I thought
OS/2 was just an operating system.
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't
we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
Pity that other proprietary company doesn't go the same way - Apple.
IBM are still screwing everyone around. World Community Grid has had
a lot of trouble converting from IBM servers to generic ones.
David Brooks laid this down on his screen :
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
Looks a lot like this:
http://www.tech2u.com.au/training/tech2u/win98_1/disk.html
"FromTheRafters" wrote:
David Brooks laid this down on his screen :
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
Definitely not.
Looks a lot like this:
http://www.tech2u.com.au/training/tech2u/win98_1/disk.html
Or more like this:
https://i.ibb.co/WnFJTtG/drive-w2k.png
That's from Windows 2000, has the "Hardware" tab and "File System" is
a separate line of text. Windows XP changed the disk icon (top left)
to a 3D perspective view.
https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Nightwalkers
<quote>
Goofs
When Major Samantha Carter is looking through a computer at Dr. Richard Flemming's house, she looks at the system properties, which displays
the used disk space as 0.0 and 100% of the disk space pie chart as free space. Even with no additional information, a computer that has any
type of operating system on it would still occupy some disk space with
the OS, drivers, and other operating tools. It is possible, however,
that she was checking a partition or secondary hard drive, which can be empty. Furthermore, the free space in bytes converts to 8.6 GB, yet the screen shows 9.6 GB free.
</quote>
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
On 27/03/2023 12:13, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 3/27/2023, David Brooks supposed :
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in >>>>>>>> theWhat exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>>>> the software?
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. >>>>>>>
  ? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't >>>>>>> we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to >>>>>> PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ?
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against >>>> it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is
correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If >>>> it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to >>>> have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are >>>> similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you
press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a >>>> PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS >>>> loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!
Do you mean CMOS?
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
No, Sir!
I learnt about that within the first two years of owning my /first/ iMac! (bought 2009)
Thanks anyway!
on 3/27/2023, David Brooks supposed :
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology
in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>>> the software?
  ? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones
aren't we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA
to PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ?
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
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https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection
against it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in
Quora is correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If
it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used
to have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume
Macs are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings -
can you press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the
OS like on a PC? I know there are some keys which do special things
before the OS loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!
Do you mean CMOS?
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
David Brooks explained on 3/27/2023 :
On 27/03/2023 12:13, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 3/27/2023, David Brooks supposed :
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ?
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology >>>>>>>>> in theWhat exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. >>>>>>>>
hardware or
the software?
  ? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones >>>>>>>> aren't we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from
ISA to PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day. >>>>>>
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection
against it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in >>>>> Quora is correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original
software into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it.
If it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you
used to have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I
assume Macs are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS
settings - can you press a key at power on to get to basic settings
before the OS like on a PC? I know there are some keys which do
special things before the OS loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac. >>>> But I'm willing to learn!
Do you mean CMOS?
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
No, Sir!
I learnt about that within the first two years of owning my /first/
iMac! (bought 2009)
Thanks anyway!
Then what do you mean by "equivalent to BIOS settings" if not storage in NVRAM?
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Apd explained :[...]
"FromTheRafters" wrote:
Looks a lot like this:
http://www.tech2u.com.au/training/tech2u/win98_1/disk.html
Or more like this:
https://i.ibb.co/WnFJTtG/drive-w2k.png
Yes.
Furthermore, the free space in bytes converts to 8.6 GB, yet the
screen shows 9.6 GB free.
</quote>
Somebody in the graphics crew is having a little fun I suspect. There are many things in movies and TV shows that you are just not supposed to
notice.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
I looked at 2003 server and IIRC it had two rows of tabs. I even looked at 98ME but saw no images for 2000.
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode
==================
BIOS mode only exists on PCs, right? Well, sort of. Although the Mac
doesn¹t have a bios mode, it has something similar. In this article,
we¹ll get into what BIOS mode is, its equivalent on the Mac, and how to
enter and use it.
==================
Yep, it helps.
On 27/03/2023 15:04, FromTheRafters wrote:
David Brooks explained on 3/27/2023 :
On 27/03/2023 12:13, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 3/27/2023, David Brooks supposed :
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ? >>>>>>>
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in >>>>>>>>>> theWhat exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware >>>>>>>>> or
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. >>>>>>>>>
the software?
  ? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology. >>>>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't >>>>>>>>> we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to >>>>>>>> PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day. >>>>>>>
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
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Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against >>>>>> it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is >>>>>> correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software >>>>>> into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If >>>>>> it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used >>>>>> to have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs >>>>>> are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can >>>>>> you press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like >>>>>> on a PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the >>>>>> OS loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac. >>>>> But I'm willing to learn!
Do you mean CMOS?
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
No, Sir!
I learnt about that within the first two years of owning my /first/ iMac! >>> (bought 2009)
Thanks anyway!
Then what do you mean by "equivalent to BIOS settings" if not storage in
NVRAM?
PLease see if there is anything here which will help you:-
https://www.google.com/search?q=there+is+*NO*+equivalent+to+BIOS+settings+on+a+Mac.+
In article <tvseto$39kcn$1@dont-email.me>, FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode
==================
BIOS mode only exists on PCs, right? Well, sort of. Although the Mac
doesn¹t have a bios mode, it has something similar. In this article,
we¹ll get into what BIOS mode is, its equivalent on the Mac, and how to
enter and use it.
==================
Yep, it helps.
similar is not the same,
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode
==================
BIOS mode only exists on PCs, right? Well, sort of. Although the Mac
doesn¹t have a bios mode, it has something similar. In this article,
we¹ll get into what BIOS mode is, its equivalent on the Mac, and how to
enter and use it.
==================
Yep, it helps.
similar is not the same,
Equivalent function.
In article <tvsl1e$3am8f$1@dont-email.me>, FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode
==================
BIOS mode only exists on PCs, right? Well, sort of. Although the Mac
doesn¹t have a bios mode, it has something similar. In this article,
we¹ll get into what BIOS mode is, its equivalent on the Mac, and how to >>>> enter and use it.
==================
Yep, it helps.
similar is not the same,
Equivalent function.
only with intel macs with uefi, and there's no menu interface or bios
mode.
for 68k/powerpc/apple silicon, it ranges from nonexistent to very
different.
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and the boot drive is not always C.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted from E.
similar is not the same,
Equivalent function.
only with intel macs with uefi, and there's no menu interface or bios
mode.
But there are still "settings" stored in NVRAM.
for 68k/powerpc/apple silicon, it ranges from nonexistent to very different.
I'm not arguing about terminology here, firmware code needs access to
stored, possibly user supplied, settings during the boot axis yet
before disk access. Call it whatever you want, but if it were not
possibly 'user supplied' data it would not need to be in battery or
capacitor 'keep alive' voltage NVRAM as ROM would suffice.
I posted that particular URL because it was the second hit in the
google search
URL BD supplied and it disagreed with him.
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and
the boot drive is not always C.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted
from E.
In article <tvt46e$3den5$1@dont-email.me>, FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
similar is not the same,
Equivalent function.
only with intel macs with uefi, and there's no menu interface or bios
mode.
But there are still "settings" stored in NVRAM.
nvram (and pram in earlier macs) is different than uefi, and it can be accessed and modified from the command line (and apps in classic mac
os).
at the command prompt, type
nvram -p
to see what's stored there.
don't modify anything without knowing *exactly* what it's going to do,
and even then, don't.
for 68k/powerpc/apple silicon, it ranges from nonexistent to very
different.
I'm not arguing about terminology here, firmware code needs access to
stored, possibly user supplied, settings during the boot axis yet
before disk access. Call it whatever you want, but if it were not
possibly 'user supplied' data it would not need to be in battery or
capacitor 'keep alive' voltage NVRAM as ROM would suffice.
it's for persistent settings.
I posted that particular URL because it was the second hit in the
google search
lots of stuff that comes up in a search isn't completely accurate, and sometimes not accurate at all.
URL BD supplied and it disagreed with him.
quite a bit does.
There's a good chance that even an Apple computer still 'stores' such 'settings' in CMOS. This terminology has nothting to do with BIOS vs.
UEFI or whether or not there is a capacitor or a battery or a user
interface like the various old 'CMOS Setup' programs in BIOSes did.
I thought that his statement indicated a misunderstanding on his part,
and I still do.
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
I thought that his statement indicated a misunderstanding on his part,
and I still do.
everything david says indicates a grave misunderstanding of the world.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
see how that would work.
On 28/03/2023 02:58, FromTheRafters wrote:
I thought that his statement indicated a misunderstanding on his part, and >> I still do.
Please point to the item which you /think/ I misunderstood.
David Brooks expressed precisely :
On 28/03/2023 05:58, James McDougal wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
WOW! How come those images have been released, James?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_catalog
On 28/03/2023 05:58, James McDougal wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
WOW! How come those images have been released, James?
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and
the boot drive is not always C.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted
from E.
On 3/27/2023 11:34 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and the boot drive is not always C.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted from E.
The drive having "0 bytes" used on it, I found that amusing.
It might be able to say "0 bytes" if it was RAW, but
since the label says FAT32, then immediately the used space
has to be >0 . RAW partitions say "0 for everything".
After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
On 27/03/2023 15:04, FromTheRafters wrote:
David Brooks explained on 3/27/2023 :
On 27/03/2023 12:13, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 3/27/2023, David Brooks supposed :
On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. ? >>>>>>>>
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, ? Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in >>>>>>>>>>> theWhat exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware >>>>>>>>>> or
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. >>>>>>>>>>
the software?
? :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology. >>>>>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't >>>>>>>>>> we?
The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to >>>>>>>>> PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day. >>>>>>>>
Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against >>>>>>> it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is >>>>>>> correct:
****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software >>>>>>> into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****
I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If >>>>>>> it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used >>>>>>> to have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs >>>>>>> are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can >>>>>>> you press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like >>>>>>> on a PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the >>>>>>> OS loads when the OS is needing fixed.
As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac. >>>>>> But I'm willing to learn!
Do you mean CMOS?
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
No, Sir!
I learnt about that within the first two years of owning my /first/ iMac! >>>> (bought 2009)
Thanks anyway!
Then what do you mean by "equivalent to BIOS settings" if not storage in >>> NVRAM?
PLease see if there is anything here which will help you:-
https://www.google.com/search?q=there+is+*NO*+equivalent+to+BIOS+settings+on+a+Mac.+
https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode
==================
BIOS mode only exists on PCs, right? Well, sort of. Although the Mac doesn’t have a bios mode, it has something similar. In this article, we’ll get into what BIOS mode is, its equivalent on the Mac, and how to enter and use it.
==================
Yep, it helps.
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:34:14 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and
the boot drive is not always C.
The whole thing doesn't make sense. The left dialog box is of system, which appears to contain a computer and a documents folder, but no drives!
The right dialog box is headed "my computer", so it's not looking at just one drive or folder. But it shows a drive C labelled documents which is empty.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted
from E.
That far back drive letters meant something. It was ridiculous, you could trash a system by:
Take it's C: drive and physically connect it as a second drive to another computer.
Boot the other computer. Two C drives? Not allowed, the second one would be changed to D automatically.
Return the drive to the original computer. Now it only has a D and can't boot. Almost impossible to fix.
So I've no idea how you could boot from E.
Not all drive letters are established by first come, first serve.
Drive letters could be manually assigned by the user, on a
previous date. It is the boot drive, which tends to define its
latter first. And that's how it "tends" to be C: . There is nothing
magical about the letter C: , the developers name is not Charlie
or something. It's an enumeration from a pool of letters.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:08:05 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
Not all drive letters are established by first come, first serve.
Drive letters could be manually assigned by the user, on a
previous date. It is the boot drive, which tends to define its
latter first. And that's how it "tends" to be C: . There is nothing
magical about the letter C: , the developers name is not Charlie
or something. It's an enumeration from a pool of letters.
Not only is C: not magical, neither are A: and B:, which were
traditionally reserved for floppy drives but can actually be used for
any purpose. Many years ago when I had only two hard drives, I assigned
them as A: and B:, and my Windows installation was on E: For a short
time, I also had a system where I installed Windows to W:. It seemed to
make sense at the time.
On 3/27/2023 6:58 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 11:11:37 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
On 3/27/2023 4:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote: >>>>>>
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology
in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or >>>>>> the software?
🙄 :rolls_eyes:
Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" >>>> technology".
Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being
within it.
"IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it."
You stopped reading, so you missed "in the motherboard". Motherboard is
hardware.
Maybe I should have used "with it" instead of "within it".
I understood what you said but didn't believe you, since I thought
OS/2 was just an operating system.
Before OS/2, all the IBM PC "DOS", and "Win 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x" for
IBM's PC line of computers were made by Microsoft.
IBM's OS/2 came out together with the micro-channel. Micro-channel is
the connector on the motherboard that accepts plug-in cards, much like
the PCIe today. IBM's goal was to wrestle back the ownership of its own
PC line of computers from Microsoft and clone makers.
IBM failed to choke Microsoft and clone makers off because Microsoft
formed a consortium with hardware manufacturers to develop new
technologies for the PC and made the new PCs substantially different
from IBM's original design. Bill Gates, with the help of Chinese manufacturing capacity, became the world's richest man by robbing IBM
and made Microsoft Windows the dominant computer operating system in
consumer and business applications.
In article <op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>, CK1@nospam.com (Commander Kinsey) wrote:
*From:* "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com>https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/win31 but with non-standard fonts as the
*Date:* Sun, 26 Mar 2023 04:23:30 +0100
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
Windings font isn't available for the Windows Minimize, Restore and Close icons.
On 01/01/1970 01:00, Bosun Jimmy wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
Some years after Windows 3.1.
You are correct ..... but your 'clock' is wrong!
"FromTheRafters" wrote:
David Brooks laid this down on his screen :
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
Definitely not.
Looks a lot like this:
http://www.tech2u.com.au/training/tech2u/win98_1/disk.html
Or more like this:
https://i.ibb.co/WnFJTtG/drive-w2k.png
That's from Windows 2000, has the "Hardware" tab and "File System" is
a separate line of text. Windows XP changed the disk icon (top left)
to a 3D perspective view.
https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Nightwalkers
<quote>
Goofs
When Major Samantha Carter is looking through a computer at Dr. Richard Flemming's house, she looks at the system properties, which displays
the used disk space as 0.0 and 100% of the disk space pie chart as free space. Even with no additional information, a computer that has any
type of operating system on it would still occupy some disk space with
the OS, drivers, and other operating tools. It is possible, however,
that she was checking a partition or secondary hard drive, which can be empty. Furthermore, the free space in bytes converts to 8.6 GB, yet the screen shows 9.6 GB free.
</quote>
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:12:56 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 01/01/1970 01:00, Bosun Jimmy wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
Some years after Windows 3.1.
You are correct ..... but your 'clock' is wrong!
It wouldn't surprise me if Windows 95 came out in 96.
Did you know Windows 98 was actually called Windows 97? They renamed it when it took too long to come out. However I stole a Windows 97 off an FTP site. Bloody slow site, but I downloaded it at work on several machines, so I could make more than one connection (they limited speed per IP address).
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.
Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.
Apd presented the following explanation :
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.
Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.
Or maybe something like this is simply being avoided.
https://beverlyboy.com/filmmaking/laws-and-regulations-for-product-placement-in-films-on-use/
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with that?
David Brooks expressed precisely :
On 28/03/2023 05:58, James McDougal wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
WOW! How come those images have been released, James?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_catalog
On 3/28/2023 6:53 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:34:14 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
On 3/26/23 23:25, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[snip]
It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?
Why do you assume this is the boot drive. Its labeled "DOCUMENTS" and
the boot drive is not always C.
The whole thing doesn't make sense. The left dialog box is of system, which appears to contain a computer and a documents folder, but no drives!
The right dialog box is headed "my computer", so it's not looking at just one drive or folder. But it shows a drive C labelled documents which is empty.
BTW, I once had a Windows installation (I think it was w2k) that booted
from E.
That far back drive letters meant something. It was ridiculous, you could trash a system by:
Take it's C: drive and physically connect it as a second drive to another computer.
Boot the other computer. Two C drives? Not allowed, the second one would be changed to D automatically.
Return the drive to the original computer. Now it only has a D and can't boot. Almost impossible to fix.
So I've no idea how you could boot from E.
On Windows, part of drive identity is stored in the registry.
The Registry can remember things like "serial numbers". This is
so Plug And Play has space already assigned for parameter storage.
Then, it does not matter which SATA port a drive is on, it can
still be set as drive T: if you want. Move it from port to port,
it is still T: . If it had no serial number, then the identity
would have to be re-established manually, as you moved from SATA
port to SATA port.
Not all drive letters are established by first come, first serve.
Drive letters could be manually assigned by the user, on a
previous date. It is the boot drive, which tends to define its
latter first. And that's how it "tends" to be C: . There is nothing
magical about the letter C: , the developers name is not Charlie
or something. It's an enumeration from a pool of letters.
Linux is closer to First Come First Serve, when it comes to the assignment
of resource identifiers in /dev . The analysis is done in "bus order",
which is why the identifiers tend to be the same, from boot to boot.
But the method of population, is dynamic.
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other, Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't >>>> see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with that?
You may learn more about what they do, here:-
https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
Am 06.04.23 um 03:28 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:27:47 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
unaware of the topic until he replied.
Do you really have a plan?
I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
your filter. Your problem not mine.
Oh look at all the children playing with their broken filters.
Two weeks after the fact? Idiot.
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate
skin for the desktop and window furniture.
Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.
Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.
Apd presented the following explanation :
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:08:52 +0100, Apd wrote:
Another difference from the Win dialog is the "used" and "free" space
lines are capitalized and swapped around.
That properties dialog is just wrong and has to be faked (inspired by
Win2k). It could be on any OS (likely Mac or Win) using an appropriate >>>> skin for the desktop and window furniture.
Why would they make a fake one instead of just using a real one?
If it's set in the future, they may want to make it appear different
from any known OS but not so different as to be unrecognisable.
Otherwise, who knows. Those desktop folders remind me of a pre-OSX Mac
but the central dialog is certainly Windows-based.
Another guess: The graphics people only had Macs but most users were
more familiar with Windows in 2002 (date of the episode) so they
mocked up the UI as best they knew to look like like Win.
Or maybe something like this is simply being avoided.
https://beverlyboy.com/filmmaking/laws-and-regulations-for-product-placement-in-films-on-use/
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics >>>>>>>
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't >>>>> see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
that?
You may learn more about what they do, here:-
https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other, >> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
Is this still true with modern Windows?
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other, >>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
Is this still true with modern Windows?
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come back on until I press the power button.
On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't >>>>>> see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
that?
You may learn more about what they do, here:-
https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >>
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other, >>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop. >>>Is this still true with modern Windows?
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've >> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I >> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
back on until I press the power button.
macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work" and it does not.
On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I >>>>>>>> can't
see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with >>>>>> that?
You may learn more about what they do, here:-
https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.
To thyself be true!
You were going to work for the government? Traitor!
Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!
Gosh!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
<DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
<JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
Is there REALLY such a thing?
This ought to be sufficient answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I >>>>>>> can't
see how that would work.
There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with >>>>> that?
You may learn more about what they do, here:-
https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.
You were going to work for the government? Traitor!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,Is this still true with modern Windows?
Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop. >>>>
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've >>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I >>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. >>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
back on until I press the power button.
macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work" >> and it does not.
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >>
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,Is this still true with modern Windows?
Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop. >>>>>
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've >>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I >>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. >>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
back on until I press the power button.
macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work" >>> and it does not.
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed >> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
There are times that is true. Sure.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,Is this still true with modern Windows?
Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop. >>>>>>
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. >>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
back on until I press the power button.
macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
and it does not.
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
There are times that is true. Sure.
Many many times.
On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.13ia2npemvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >>
On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
Is this still true with modern Windows?
It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. >>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
back on until I press the power button.
macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
and it does not.
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
There are times that is true. Sure.
Many many times.
It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI. Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong UI focus like they did in the past.
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
There are times that is true. Sure.
Many many times.
It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
UI focus like they did in the past.
I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.
On Apr 16, 2023 at 12:37:51 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote <op.13id5dcpmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
sake of it.
There are times that is true. Sure.
Many many times.
It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI. >>> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
UI focus like they did in the past.
I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to >> change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.
I have used similar apps. Yeah... when they went to tiles they went insane.
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