Hi,
I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
the first to the last.
I have bought something that is coming from China and they are updating
where it is each day, and I'm curious to map the route they take. Of
course I have no idea what transport they are using, but never mind.
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
the first to the last.
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the
way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange,
drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the
way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange,
drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
the first to the last.
To me, even a straight line would be good. Or a suggestion of
possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.
On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the >>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot menu >>> icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange, >>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
Carlos E. R. wrote:
To me, even a straight line would be good. Or a suggestion of
possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.
You can create your own map at <https://mymaps.google.com>
type a city name, it'll drop a pushpin
add lines, click and drag them, it seems to turn them into great circle routes, e.g.
<https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1fU18uwjnkHIwGMM4t4FLiW8AhXefSDA&ll=29.588703817370344%2C61.500708&z=4>
Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination.
There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the >>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at
its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange, >>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes within China to some other countries.
Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
- possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea
Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
To me, even a straight line would be good.
Or a suggestion of
possibilities. It doesn't really matter, this is just for enjoyment.
On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination. >>>>>There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want >>>>> the
way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at >>>>> its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To
rearrange,
drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
within China to some other countries.
Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
- possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery
time astonishes me.
Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a profit.
On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination. >>>>>There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you want the >>>>> way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at >>>>> its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the 3-dot
menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To rearrange, >>>>> drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
within China to some other countries.
Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
- possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery time astonishes me.
Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a profit.
Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 11:00 AM:
On 2023-03-24 17:03, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:While China companies do receive lower shipping rates(subsidized by the
Carlos E. R. wrote on 3/24/2023 6:07 AM:
On 2023-03-24 13:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:Didn't Google and China have a tenuous relationship.
On 2023-03-24 12:21, VanguardLH wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Google maps can draw, apparently, only an origin and a destination. >>>>>>There is an "Add destination" button (has a "+" icon). If you
want the
way points in a different order, drag a destination using its icon at >>>>>> its left. That is when using a desktop web browser.
When using the Google Maps app on a mobile device, tap on the
3-dot menu
icon to the right of a destination, and tap on Add Stop. To
rearrange,
drag the handle icon at the left of a destination.
Ohhhh...! I didn't see that, thanks :-)
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
Chongqing → Zhengzhou → Incheon.
OpenStreet map seems to only accept two points.
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=29.565%2C106.548%3B34.749%2C113.619#map=4/33.36/118.17>
Iirc, while Google Search is not operable within China the ability to
search(which Maps uses) has limitation from search/display routes
within China to some other countries.
Since anything from China has to eventually be shipped by air or boat
the latter with a port destination, the former with a major city...
- possibly the best route capable of being seen is the source and
destination cities within China. Once it leaves China to your country
the single line may apply until local to your country tracking.
They said it would arrive on Monday. The ability to customize a laptop
bought in Europe and assembled in China, and promise a week delivery
time astonishes me.
Also surprising is that they can ship that far by plane and make a
profit.
end destination country)...but that subsidy also depends on the end
country destination.
In 2021 lower global shipping fees to European countries ended,
allowing those affected countries to raise their pricing and not pay subsidies.
Subsidization standards and pricing(including discounted amounts) was originally done via the UPU(Universal Posting Union, an international
postal organization for developed countries). Like Europe, the U.S.
ended discounted pricing for China(as a result China raised their costs(Express Mail Service to outbound U.S. destinations about 13% for
the first 0.5 Kg shipped ~$4; additional weights are much less).
The avg hourly wage in China is about $25 yuan/hour approx. equal to $3.70/hour U.S. That pc that took a few hours(if at all to build) cost
less than $10 of labor to build.
On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea
Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I seek a web that, given a list of waypoints (cities) draws a route from
the first to the last.
Hi Carlos,
This answer isn't a direct answer - but it could directly answer it
depending on the power of the web & Windows applications listed below.
You apparently need a route that is for vehicles, but for you perhaps
(and certainly for others), the base capability of "drawing a route
on Windows", "saving to your phone" & then "routing" does exist
(but note the caveat that I'm hiking and you are likely driving).
Mostly I use caltopo to draw a route I download to my phone to route...
but (and this is a biggie), what I use it for is to draw a route on a *topographical* map & save to my phone so that I can follow that map
(and this is another biggie) by routing on foot.
<https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=37.9442,16.61133&z=5&b=mbt>
<https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/topoview/viewer/#4/40.01/-100.06>
Those web sites are so powerful, I wouldn't doubt if they actually do
road routing also, given a few waypoints, but you'd have to check.
Generally I load gpx results into a "visual routing" Android app,
although I wrote a tutorial a while ago on "verbal routing" apps.
Avenza: <https://www.avenzamaps.com/maps/how-it-works.html>
PaperMaps: <https://www.paper-maps.com/>
There is also excellent Windows software that draws routes, but again,
I've never tested any of them outside backcountry hiking in the USA.
Google Earth (which does fantastic topographical routing if you know how!)
<https://www.google.com/earth/about/versions/#download-pro>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.earth>
QGIS
<https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html>
GDal
<http://download.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/v2/osgeo4w-setup.exe>
GPS Babel
<https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>
Added sci.geo.satellite-nav
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea
Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
[...]
On 2023-03-25 16:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from
China to S.Korea
Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by
Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
[...]
The map posted by Andy Burns is very good. The caveat is that it
requires one to login to create one.
The method posted by micky is also interesting, but I haven't got around
to testing it yet.
The method posted by Fritz Wuehler is nice and easy, but it just marks
the cities (1, 2, 3, 4), does not join them with lines, unless I am
missing some option somewhere.
It is using openstreet map, which seems to print the city names in the >language and script of the place, which is not readable to me. Maybe,
again, that is some option somewhere.
All good. Now I must go out to catch some dinner in the supermarket :-)
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:44:43 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-03-25 16:03, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-03-24 14:19, Andy Burns wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
LOL. Google says that the route is out of their coverage.
It'll drive between the two Chinese cities, but it wants to fly from >>>>> China to S.Korea
Yep. It can not make a plan using different transport systems.
It seems you already have a solution (the map creation method given by >>> Andy), but if not, just switch to Walking and enable <deity> mode.
[...]
The map posted by Andy Burns is very good. The caveat is that it
requires one to login to create one.
The method posted by micky is also interesting, but I haven't got around
to testing it yet.
Of course you don't have to go simply starting to ending place. If the highway doglegs or zigzags, you can put in as many segments as you want.
I've used it a lot in town, like to see how far it was for my father
when he walked to work, choosing the route he would have taken.
The method posted by Fritz Wuehler is nice and easy, but it just marks
the cities (1, 2, 3, 4), does not join them with lines, unless I am
missing some option somewhere.
It is using openstreet map, which seems to print the city names in the
language and script of the place, which is not readable to me. Maybe,
You don't read Chinese? And yet you shop there. How imperialistic!
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