• chrome://blank versus chrome://newtab versus chrome://settings/siteData

    From allen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 09:50:15 2023
    I have my startup pages set to open to a new tab in addition to cleaning
    out the local stored data and history kind of stuff but what I'd like to
    know is how can I tell if any of them are going to the Internet to do it?

    Startup pages are

    chrome://blank
    chrome://newtab
    chrome://settings/siteData
    chrome://settings/clearBrowserData

    Is there a chromium newsgroup to ask?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to allen on Fri Mar 3 01:27:20 2023
    On 3/2/2023 12:50 PM, allen wrote:
    I have my startup pages set to open to a new tab in addition to cleaning
    out the local stored data and history kind of stuff but what I'd like to
    know is how can I tell if any of them are going to the Internet to do it?

    Startup pages are

    chrome://blank
    chrome://newtab
    chrome://settings/siteData
    chrome://settings/clearBrowserData

    Is there a chromium newsgroup to ask?


    Why would chrome://blank go to the Internet ?

    The purpose of having a "blank" in the first place, was
    to have a page which was not distracting. It was never
    intended as some kind of fancy "network stealth" thing.

    Why not get a copy of TCPView from Sysinternals and have a look ?

    Alternately, Process Monitor from Sysinternals now support
    network tracing. A trace will "capture everything", then,
    you design filters to extract the nuanced details.

    This shouldn't be a hard problem to analyze.

    Using Wireshark would tell you "something" was going on,
    but you may need better tracing tools to get the details
    nailed down.

    I don't really use Chrome here, so you can test for us.

    Paul

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  • From dan@21:1/5 to allen on Fri Mar 3 17:39:56 2023
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:50:15 -0800, allen wrote:


    chrome://blank
    chrome://newtab
    chrome://settings/siteData
    chrome://settings/clearBrowserData

    I tried these with my Epic Chromium variant & they're all different.

    blank brings up an ERR_INVALID_URL "This site can't be reached"
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar
    (but it's not a keyword since blanx & bxxxx do the same)

    newtab brings up a web page with tracker counts and pre-determined sites
    but it leaves the address bar empty so you can easily re-use it

    siteData brings up a web page with all cookies and site data
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar

    clearBrowserData brings up a detailed dialog of what you want to clear
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar

    I tried by experimenting with the URI to bring up a blank tab without
    anything in the address bar and I couldn't find the magic keyword to use.

    I don't know if what you probably want with blank exists if what you want
    is to bring up a blank tab with nothing in the address bar to wipe out.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to dan on Fri Mar 3 20:04:19 2023
    On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, dan wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:50:15 -0800, allen wrote:


    chrome://blank
    chrome://newtab
    chrome://settings/siteData
    chrome://settings/clearBrowserData

    I tried these with my Epic Chromium variant & they're all different.

    blank brings up an ERR_INVALID_URL "This site can't be reached"
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar
    (but it's not a keyword since blanx & bxxxx do the same)

    newtab brings up a web page with tracker counts and pre-determined sites
    but it leaves the address bar empty so you can easily re-use it

    siteData brings up a web page with all cookies and site data
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar

    clearBrowserData brings up a detailed dialog of what you want to clear
    but it keeps the URI in the address bar which makes it
    so you have to delete it in order to re-use the bar

    I tried by experimenting with the URI to bring up a blank tab without anything in the address bar and I couldn't find the magic keyword to use.

    I don't know if what you probably want with blank exists if what you want
    is to bring up a blank tab with nothing in the address bar to wipe out.


    They're claiming here, that about:blank works on all the browsers.

    https://www.minitool.com/news/about-blank.html

    I'm not sure about: is recognized on all browsers, which is why they
    have their own private URIs.

    Paul

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  • From dan@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Mar 4 15:27:15 2023
    On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 20:04:19 -0500, Paul wrote:


    They're claiming here, that about:blank works on all the browsers.

    https://www.minitool.com/news/about-blank.html

    I'm not sure about: is recognized on all browsers, which is why they
    have their own private URIs.

    I tried "about:blank" and "about:paul" as a startup page and it worked in
    both cases except "about:blank" brought up a blank page but "about:paul"
    tried to go to "chrome://paul/" so you're right that the "about:blank" is
    being interpreted somehow as a blank tab keyword.

    But the "about:blank" is definitely the closest thing to what the op asked
    for because it opens a blank page (but you have to manually clear the
    address bar before you can use it).

    None of the methods worked the way most people would likely want it to work because only "chrome://newtab" opened a tab and autowiped clear the address
    bar for you but it happens to actually be a special page that has stuff on
    it put there by Epic, not you.

    Most of that stuff seems to be removable except for one item, which is a
    box saying "How Epic Works" which when you click on it, then takes you to https://www.epicbrowser.com/privacy/intro.html

    You don't know offhand if it's going there ahead of time on you.
    Nothing I tried really brings up a blank page with a blank address bar.

    But your suggestion of "about:blank" was the closest to that ideal.

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