• one folder?

    From Dale@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 18:01:12 2023
    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a
    *.bat file.

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Dale on Fri Feb 24 18:58:22 2023
    On 2/24/2023 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a *.bat file.

    When I want one file to appear in multiple folders, I create a master in
    one folder and then place a short cut is all of the other folders where
    I want it. Then editing one changes them all.


    The only way I know of to put individually editable copies in multiple
    folders is a bat file.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/02/2023 23:01, Dale wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:ttbfjm$2avnl$1@dont-email.me"> <br>
    I'd like one folder that links to many. <br>
    <br>
    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places. <br>
    <br>
    No other software besides Windows. <br>
    <br>
    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I
    would do a *.bat file. <br>
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    The easiest way is to create a link to the file and copy that link
    to "many places". To create a link, Right-Click on the file and
    initially save it on the Desktop. Rename that link to the file it is
    linked to without the extension (normally you may not need to do it
    because the link is renamed by default). Now copy this renamed file
    to where ever you want it. You said "many places" so copy it to many
    places.<br>
    <br>
    "Magic" and "Witch Craft" normally comes quite handy in such
    situation and coincidentally, you are expert in both of these
    because of your PhD!!<br>
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Dale on Fri Feb 24 19:44:44 2023
    On 2/24/2023 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a *.bat file.


    We need some examples of the pattern you seek to create.

    Here, I have something that is "almost a mirror", but I was lazy and
    added a document to D: that I do not intended to copy to C: . So I
    cannot use "mirror software" in this case, because toledo.doc would
    get erased if I did. My plan here, was to make sure that an item
    in important_documents, exists on two different hard drive spindles.
    It's on my WD1003 hard drive and on my WD2005 hard drive. If the motor
    breaks on the WD1003 hard drive, I still have my vegas.doc file
    on the WD2005 hard drive.

    C:\ D:\
    important_documents\ important_documents\
    vegas.doc vegas.doc
    toledo.doc

    We need you to explain more about your objectives, so we can
    give you an answer to the best of our abilities.

    Making random copies does not always solve a problem.

    *******

    We used to have a protocol at work.

    A person would wander into my cubicle.

    "I have a problem.
    I've got this thing I need to do.

    I guess I should explain some of the characteristics.
    ...
    "

    After about five minutes, they're just about done, when they say

    "OK, I figured it out."

    And they would leave my cubicle. No harsh words would be exchanged,
    because we knew what the other person was doing. The act of
    making a capsule summary of a problem, triggers your brainpan.
    The answers come easier, if you spell them out verbally. Now,
    sometimes, I may be asked to respond, if the visitor has still
    not figured it out. Which is OK. But the whole scenario was
    played out many times, and we didn't even have a name for this
    practice :-) Weird, I know. I guess it's "playback_brainstorming".

    *******

    Of course your suggestion of copy a b approach works,
    but we have to be careful that when that is done, some
    benefit is obtained from the activity. If your storage approach
    fits a certain pattern, then there are some automated softwares
    so you have less manual work to do. If the two directories will
    always be identical, that makes the problem easier.

    WD1003 hard drive WD2005 hard drive

    C:\ D:\
    important_documents\ important_documents\
    vegas.doc vegas.doc
    toledo.doc toledo.doc

    I could run this at the end of the day, with C: being the master copy.

    robocopy C:\important_documents\ D:\important_documents\ /mir /z /np /tee /v /log:robocopy_feb24_2023_impdoc.log

    You would not put this in Scheduled Tasks, because there might be
    days where you know there is something wrong with the left-hand
    copy of toledo.doc and copying over, would be a bad thing.

    Paul

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to knuttle on Fri Feb 24 21:10:10 2023
    On 2/24/2023 6:58 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do
    a *.bat file.

    When I want one file to appear in multiple folders, I create a master in
    one folder and then place a short cut is all of the other folders where
    I want it.  Then editing one changes them all.




    The only way I know of to put individually editable copies in multiple folders is a bat file.

    I'll search up the code for a batch.

    Thank You !


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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 22:03:45 2023
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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to knuttle on Fri Feb 24 22:18:01 2023
    On 2/24/2023 10:03 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 9:10 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 6:58 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 6:01 PM, Dale wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would
    do a *.bat file.

    When I want one file to appear in multiple folders, I create a master
    in one folder and then place a short cut is all of the other folders
    where I want it.  Then editing one changes them all.




    The only way I know of to put individually editable copies in
    multiple folders is a bat file.

    I'll search up the code for a batch.

    Thank You !


    The batch file would probably be a repetition of the following command

    copy  c:\foldera\filez    c:\folderb\filez
    copy  C:\foldera\FIles    g:\folderz\filed





    Thank You !!!!


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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to Dale on Sat Feb 25 08:42:22 2023
    Dale wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a *.bat file.

    Why?

    I suspect you see this as a solution to your real problem. If you tell
    us what you're really trying to achieve, there may be a better way ...


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    Graham J

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Dale on Sat Feb 25 07:36:18 2023
    On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:10:10 -0500, Dale wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 6:58 PM, knuttle wrote:
    The only way I know of to put individually editable copies in multiple folders is a bat file.

    You could also make a series of hard links from all the other
    directories where you want the file to seem to be, to the file where
    it actually is.

    Personally, I would just set up an environment variable containing
    the file location. Then anywhere I could just type %MYFILE% (or
    whatever name you chose) when opening or saving the file.

    --
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    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Dale on Sat Feb 25 12:32:29 2023
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a *.bat file.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save
    the file. You create other folders that are actually sym links back to
    the base folder. You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders". You'd have multiple folders that are actually sym links back to the base folder. You'd have to create the
    sym links yourself. Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sat Feb 25 20:13:37 2023
    On 2/25/2023 1:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a
    *.bat file.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save
    the file. You create other folders that are actually sym links back to
    the base folder. You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders". You'd have multiple folders that are actually sym links back to the base folder. You'd have to create the
    sym links yourself. Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Thank You !!!!

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Dale on Sat Feb 25 20:58:14 2023
    On 2/25/2023 8:13 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 1:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a >>> *.bat file.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save
    the file.  You create other folders that are actually sym links back to
    the base folder.  You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders".  You'd have multiple folders that are
    actually sym links back to the base folder.  You'd have to create the
    sym links yourself.  Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Thank You !!!!


    Are you protecting against accidental erasure ?

    Do you want to keep old copies in case you make a mistake ?

    Do you want a backup on an external storage device, for safety purposes ?

    Tell us a story about your plan and what you hope to achieve ?

    There is no point reciting recipes (incantations), unless they have a purpose :-)

    Paul

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Feb 25 21:39:05 2023
    On 2/25/2023 8:58 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 8:13 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 1:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would
    do a
    *.bat file.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save
    the file.  You create other folders that are actually sym links back to >>> the base folder.  You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders".  You'd have multiple folders that are >>> actually sym links back to the base folder.  You'd have to create the
    sym links yourself.  Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Thank You !!!!


    Are you protecting against accidental erasure ?

    Do you want to keep old copies in case you make a mistake ?

    Do you want a backup on an external storage device, for safety purposes ?

    Tell us a story about your plan and what you hope to achieve ?

    There is no point reciting recipes (incantations), unless they have a
    purpose :-)

       Paul


    multiple backups

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 23:49:59 2023
    In article <ttego9$2nq3h$1@dont-email.me>, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:


    multiple backups

    copies of a file on the same drive are not backups.

    if the drive fails, or the computer lost or stolen, you lose *all*
    copies.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Feb 26 00:24:26 2023
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    Paul wrote:

    Dale wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.
    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.
    No other software besides Windows.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save >>>> the file.  You create other folders that are actually sym links back to >>>> the base folder.  You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders".  You'd have multiple folders that are >>>> actually sym links back to the base folder.  You'd have to create the
    sym links yourself.  Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Thank You !!!!

    There is no point reciting recipes (incantations), unless they have a
    purpose :-)

    multiple backups

    Sym links are not copies of folders or files. They are just links. If
    you delete a sym link, the file it points at continues to exist. There
    are soft and hard links. Soft links let you have multiple pointers to
    the SAME file (or folder), and deleting them doesn't touch the original
    file. Hard links will apply an action on the original file that you
    commit on the hard link. Delete a hard link and you delete the original
    file (and have remnant hard links pointing at a non-existing file until
    you also delete those hard links). Sym links in Windows are soft links.

    What you first asked for is *not* multiple backups that you now divulge.
    You asked how to have ONE file with multiple pointers to it. What you
    asked is not what you meant to ask. You should've read the article I
    mentioned to notice that it will not do what you want. If you want ONE
    file that gets *copied* to multiple locations, you need a backup or sync program.

    Most backup programs only save one copy of the original file. Some let
    you save 2 to different locations as a backup of the backup. Sync
    programs let you specify multiple locations to keep in sync, so you
    could have folder1 synchronized into folder2, and folder1 synchronized
    into folder3, and so on. You define multiple sync jobs (and, in
    Syncback, you can group the sync jobs together so they run together).
    You would then have multiple PHYSICAL copies (backups) of the original
    file.

    Some sync programs:
    Syncback Free (*)
    FreeFileSync (**)

    (*) I use Syncback, but upgraded to a paid version to allow sync on
    locked (inuse) files. The free version does not support VSC (Volume
    Shadow Copy), but the paid version does. If you attempt to sync a file
    that is locked, the free version will fail, but the paid version will
    succeed.
    (**) FreeFileSync does support VSC; however, I found its GUI very clumsy
    and non-intuitive. I don't know it can group multiple sync jobs under
    one group you configure when to run or call via CLI.

    You would need to instigate a sync job after you created or modified the original file. You could start a sync job manually using the GUI, or by running a batch script that uses the CLI (Command-Line Interface) to the program to run a sync job. With Syncback, you can schedule when to run
    a sync job. I suspect with FreeFileSync you would use Windows' Task
    Scheduler to run a scheduled event to run FreeFileSync.

    Some backup programs can watch for changes on files, and backup the
    changed files. For some, you run the backup at very short intervals,
    like every 10 minutes. However, you're only saving 1 (or 2) backups of
    the original file. Sync tools let you define multiple sync jobs on the
    same file or folder.

    So, you WILL need software other than what comes bundled with Windows to facilitate what you really want. With "only with Windows" as an
    overriding criteria, you have you build a kludge, like a batch script
    that runs robocopy to perform multiple sync jobs on the same file or
    folder with each sync job pointing to a different target location, and
    then have to remember to run the batch after creating or modifying the
    file, or add the .bat file as a scheduled event in Task Scheduler.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Feb 26 04:02:06 2023
    On 2/25/2023 9:39 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 8:58 PM, Paul wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 8:13 PM, Dale wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 1:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    I'd like one folder that links to many.

    Once I edit a file I want to save it to the many places.

    No other software besides Windows.

    I prefer to do this with the GUI but if that isn't possible I would do a >>>>> *.bat file.

    Off the top of my head, you would have the "base" folder where you save >>>> the file.  You create other folders that are actually sym links back to >>>> the base folder.  You could see your file in the base folder, and in
    each of the sym linked "folders".  You'd have multiple folders that are >>>> actually sym links back to the base folder.  You'd have to create the >>>> sym links yourself.  Saving a file won't create them.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

    Thank You !!!!


    Are you protecting against accidental erasure ?

    Do you want to keep old copies in case you make a mistake ?

    Do you want a backup on an external storage device, for safety purposes ?

    Tell us a story about your plan and what you hope to achieve ?

    There is no point reciting recipes (incantations), unless they have a purpose :-)

        Paul


    multiple backups


    This is a desktop control, for switching ON or OFF USB storage devices.

    https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Individual-Switches-included-HB-UMP3/dp/B00TPMEOYM

    You would switch ON just one port, so one USB stick is enabled.
    Do your copy.
    Do a "Safely Remove" from the menu inside the ^ symbol in the lower right corner.

    Then, switch ON the next port, so just one USB stick is enabled.
    Make your second copy.
    Do a "Safely Remove" (this puts away the file system, before you turn off the power
    on the switch that is lit up at the moment)

    USB sticks are not ultra-reliable, which is why you have four of them.

    The purpose of the bar with the switches, is so you are not always plugging
    and unplugging the USB sticks. It may help reduce wear and tear on
    the connectors. The box with the blue buttons, stays relatively
    near your keyboard, for convenience.

    And, when the USB port is powered off, in theory ransomware cannot write
    to the USB stick. With all four blue lights OFF, the information is
    relatively safe.

    The Sabrent device includes its own power adapter. And this means,
    if the power adapter produces too much voltage, there is a small
    chance it could damage all four USB sticks at once.

    You can buy two Sabrent devices, put two of the USB sticks on one Sabrent,
    out the other two USB sticks on the separate Sabrent. Two power adapters
    get plugged into a power strip. If one power adapter fails, the other
    Sabrent and its power adapter are still OK.

    This is just to illustrate how you can put together some sort
    of external storage story, and have switch selectable (ONE device
    at a time) usage pattern.

    You could also plug WD Passport 2.5" external hard drives into the
    port as well. By only powering one port at a time, the provided adapter
    can run a Passport. If you try to run four Passports and turn on ALL
    the blue LEDs, there won't be enough power. These can be a tiny bit
    more reliable than USB flash drives. Don't forget "Safely Remove" before turning off the power.

    WDBYVG0010BBK-WESN (typically uses 15mm thick rotating hard drive)

    WD 1TB My Passport Portable Storage External Hard Drive USB 3.2 for PC/MAC Black
    https://www.newegg.ca/model-wdbyvg0010bbk-wesn-1tb/p/N82E16822234390

    *******

    If you have removed a file in the source directory, it would erase
    the backup copy in the destination when using Mirror.

    robocopy C:\Important\ D:\Important /mir /r:3 /w:2 /z /np /tee /v /log:robocopy_c_to_d.log

    If on the other hand, you want older materials no longer used, to stay on the destination, you change the /mir to some other option.

    https://superuser.com/questions/671244/robocopy-to-copy-only-new-folders-and-files

    robocopy C:\Important\ D:\Important /e /xo /r:3 /w:2 /z /np /tee /v /log:robocopy_c_to_d.log

    The /xo is supposed to exclude copying older files. Only files
    with changes should be copied.

    robocopy is a command that comes with Windows. The help is available.

    robocopy /?

    The Safely Remove option is a GUI thing in the taskbar. But
    third party utilities exist so that you can script a Safely Remove.
    The only thing you might not be able to script, is turning those
    blue buttons on and off from the OS :-) The solution is not perfect,
    by any means.

    The reason we do not leave all storage devices powered, is as a
    partial protection against ransomware. There are also software products
    that claim to protect against Ransomware, but their operating mechanism
    is unexplained, and I am suspicious of such. Ransomware is more of a problem
    if you operate a business on the Internet, and can easily be phished by external actors on the Internet. One USENET person in another group,
    thought he was getting an invoice from GoDaddy for a domain, but in
    fact it was ransomware that erased all his computers. Then the red
    screen shows, requesting bitcoins etcetera. Which he did not pay.
    It took MONTHS to repair the damage, as he had to reinstall OSes and
    so on.

    Paul

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Feb 26 07:27:31 2023
    On 2/25/2023 11:49 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <ttego9$2nq3h$1@dont-email.me>, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:


    multiple backups

    copies of a file on the same drive are not backups.

    if the drive fails, or the computer lost or stolen, you lose *all*
    copies.
    There are two reason for a back up, archival and safety. Archival is
    obvious, you back up a file for long term storage, and disaster
    recovery. You are right these need to be in a remote location.

    Safety is not as obvious. Many people have problems with mouse
    droppings. ie you accidentally click the mouse as you move it across
    the screen. or you click Save when you actually meant to click some
    other button. You click save when you actually meant Save As

    Having a safety back up in these cases are necessary, and they don't
    need to be store away and off site.

    I realize mouse droppings are a problem for us computer matures, and not
    for a computer professional. ;-)

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 12:47:21 2023
    On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:49:59 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <ttego9$2nq3h$1@dont-email.me>, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:


    multiple backups

    copies of a file on the same drive are not backups.

    Of course they are. It's a poor way to do backups, but they *are*
    backups.

    And poor as that kind of backing up is, it's better than no backup at
    all.


    if the drive fails, or the computer lost or stolen, you lose *all*
    copies.


    Yes, and that's why it's a poor way to do backups.

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sun Feb 26 15:50:43 2023
    On 2/26/2023 2:47 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:49:59 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <ttego9$2nq3h$1@dont-email.me>, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:


    multiple backups

    copies of a file on the same drive are not backups.

    Of course they are. It's a poor way to do backups, but they *are*
    backups.

    And poor as that kind of backing up is, it's better than no backup at
    all.


    if the drive fails, or the computer lost or stolen, you lose *all*
    copies.


    Yes, and that's why it's a poor way to do backups.


    most of the backups I do are on multiple drives

    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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