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    From Davidm@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 13:52:55 2023
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 14:47:52 2023
    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm wrote...

    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default to my preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with yours! (There are rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to set them back, have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE utilities: https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@21:1/5 to Davidm on Sat Feb 11 23:11:35 2023
    On 11/2/2023 9:52 pm, Davidm wrote:
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    Which file extension is being affected? Maybe a ill-behaved program?

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 12:09:09 2023
    On 11 Feb 2023, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid>
    wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm
    wrote...

    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the
    file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge,
    jpg files to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for
    opening files!

    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default
    to my preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with
    yours! (There are rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I
    fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to set
    them back, have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE
    utilities:
    https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm

    Mine does this. I suspect it has to do with Edge updating, after which
    it tries to claim itself as default viewer for images and PDFs.
    Annoying, but it doesn't happen often enough to get me to do something
    about it... yet.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/02/2023 13:52, Davidm wrote:<br>
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    cite="mid:c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file
    associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    No problems here on Windows 11 (and also on my laptop running
    Windows 10). It depends on how you have set the default Apps in your
    system. I know this is Rocket Science but people should try to learn
    it properly when using a sophisticated Operating system such as
    Windows 10 or Windows 11. normally, I post clear instructions with
    pictures but you are using a neo-Nazi server to post on this Usenet
    so I won't bother to do anything more than what I have said above.<br>
    <br>
    Good luck.<br>
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TWlnaHR54pyFIFdhbm5hYmXin@21:1/5 to Nil on Sat Feb 11 13:15:08 2023
    Nil wrote on 2/11/2023 12:09 PM:
    On 11 Feb 2023, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid>
    wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm
    wrote...
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the
    file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge,
    jpg files to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for
    opening files!
    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default
    to my preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with
    yours! (There are rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I
    fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to set
    them back, have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE
    utilities:
    https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm
    Mine does this. I suspect it has to do with Edge updating, after which
    it tries to claim itself as default viewer for images and PDFs.
    Annoying, but it doesn't happen often enough to get me to do something
    about it... yet.

    If I use Acrobat to open a PDF, Edge will change the default to use Edge
    next time.

    Next time if I insist on using Acrobat or other programs to open the
    PDF, I have to right-click and choose "Open with".

    However, if I change the default to SumatraPDF to open PDF, then Edge
    won't steal the default. That means Edge is watching and stealing the
    default from Acrobat only.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@21:1/5 to Davidm on Sat Feb 11 14:31:54 2023
    Davidm wrote on 2/11/2023 6:52 AM:
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!


    Not seeing that happen on Windows 10 Pro. Been over a year since the last
    clean install of Win10 21H2(now upgraded to 22H2 via Windows Update)and defaults were set to non Edge programs for pdf, jpg(other photo file
    types), video, etc.

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 19:27:23 2023
    On 11 Feb 2023, =?UTF-8?B?TWlnaHR54pyFIFdhbm5hYmXinIU=?= <@.> wrote
    in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 2/11/2023 12:09 PM:
    On 11 Feb 2023, Philip Herlihy
    <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm
    wrote...
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the
    file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to
    Edge, jpg files to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps
    for opening files!
    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default
    to my preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with
    yours! (There are rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I
    fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to
    set them back, have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE
    utilities:
    https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm
    Mine does this. I suspect it has to do with Edge updating, after
    which it tries to claim itself as default viewer for images and
    PDFs. Annoying, but it doesn't happen often enough to get me to
    do something about it... yet.

    If I use Acrobat to open a PDF, Edge will change the default to
    use Edge next time.

    Next time if I insist on using Acrobat or other programs to open
    the PDF, I have to right-click and choose "Open with".

    However, if I change the default to SumatraPDF to open PDF, then
    Edge won't steal the default. That means Edge is watching and
    stealing the default from Acrobat only.

    It's not Acrobat only - I use Foxit and my PDF association gets stolen occasionally. Acrobat has never been installed on this computer.

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  • From milsabords@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 05:13:14 2023
    Davidm a formulé ce samedi :
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/08/microsoft-drops-edges-pdf-reader-in-favor-of-adobe-acrobat-pdf/

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Nil on Sun Feb 12 00:19:14 2023
    On 2/11/2023 7:27 PM, Nil wrote:
    On 11 Feb 2023, =?UTF-8?B?TWlnaHR54pyFIFdhbm5hYmXinIU=?= <@.> wrote
    in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 2/11/2023 12:09 PM:
    On 11 Feb 2023, Philip Herlihy
    <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm
    wrote...
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the
    file associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to
    Edge, jpg files to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps
    for opening files!
    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default
    to my preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with
    yours! (There are rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I
    fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to
    set them back, have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE
    utilities:
    https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm
    Mine does this. I suspect it has to do with Edge updating, after
    which it tries to claim itself as default viewer for images and
    PDFs. Annoying, but it doesn't happen often enough to get me to
    do something about it... yet.

    If I use Acrobat to open a PDF, Edge will change the default to
    use Edge next time.

    Next time if I insist on using Acrobat or other programs to open
    the PDF, I have to right-click and choose "Open with".

    However, if I change the default to SumatraPDF to open PDF, then
    Edge won't steal the default. That means Edge is watching and
    stealing the default from Acrobat only.

    It's not Acrobat only - I use Foxit and my PDF association gets stolen occasionally. Acrobat has never been installed on this computer.


    <tkcajk$3ng9t$1@dont-email.me>

    http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Ctkcajk%243ng9t%241%40dont-email.me%3E

    https://kolbi.cz/blog/2017/10/25/setuserfta-userchoice-hash-defeated-set-file-type-associations-per-user/

    SetUserFTA.exe .pdf AcroExch.Document.DC

    To avoid getting charged under the DMCA, he cannot tell us
    all the details of that mechanism. The program sets the
    hashid on the registry entry, so that the OS thinks it
    set that value.

    Part of the fun, is figuring out what the ProgID should be.
    Maybe that is already in the registry somewhere.

    Someone who has a broken association, needs to test this out
    and see if it has any effect at all.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to milsabords on Sun Feb 12 02:14:48 2023
    On 2/11/2023 11:13 PM, milsabords wrote:
    Davidm a formulé ce samedi :
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file
    associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/08/microsoft-drops-edges-pdf-reader-in-favor-of-adobe-acrobat-pdf/

    Oh dear, leaving all the Adobe marketing shit intact ?
    (Rotate a page, start a trial ??? And similar baloney.)

    Paul

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Sun Feb 12 09:23:53 2023
    On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 02:14:48 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On 2/11/2023 11:13 PM, milsabords wrote:
    Davidm a formulé ce samedi :
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file
    associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/08/microsoft-drops-edges-pdf-reader-in-favor-of-adobe-acrobat-pdf/

    Oh dear, leaving all the Adobe marketing shit intact ?
    (Rotate a page, start a trial ??? And similar baloney.)

    It's distressing, but not that surprising. Microsoft ads for the
    Microsoft store, in the solitaire games that come preinstalled in
    Windows 10, have been pushing Adobe Acrobat and Netflix quite hard,
    and I can't imagine they're doing that for free. No doubt Adobe is
    paying Microsoft to drop its own PDF reader and use Acrobat.

    It will be interesting to see whether other browsers do something
    similar.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Nil on Sun Feb 12 17:40:49 2023
    Nil wrote:

    It's not Acrobat only - I use Foxit and my PDF association gets stolen occasionally.

    ISTR two occasions where microsoft stole the PDF association away from
    Sumatra ...

    When the first "november update" for Win10 came along and acted more
    like a fresh install, than an update

    and again when the chrome-based Edge came along, other than that it has
    left me alone.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Stan Brown on Sun Feb 12 14:47:51 2023
    On 2/12/2023 12:23 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 02:14:48 -0500, Paul wrote:

    On 2/11/2023 11:13 PM, milsabords wrote:
    Davidm a formulé ce samedi :
    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file
    associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files >>>> to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/08/microsoft-drops-edges-pdf-reader-in-favor-of-adobe-acrobat-pdf/

    Oh dear, leaving all the Adobe marketing shit intact ?
    (Rotate a page, start a trial ??? And similar baloney.)

    It's distressing, but not that surprising. Microsoft ads for the
    Microsoft store, in the solitaire games that come preinstalled in
    Windows 10, have been pushing Adobe Acrobat and Netflix quite hard,
    and I can't imagine they're doing that for free. No doubt Adobe is
    paying Microsoft to drop its own PDF reader and use Acrobat.

    It will be interesting to see whether other browsers do something
    similar.


    Adobe wants that rent, pretty bad.

    All I can say, is "hug your copy of Foxit".

    Paul

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  • From R2D2@21:1/5 to PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid on Sun Feb 12 21:41:27 2023
    On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 14:47:52 -0000, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:

    In article <c07fuh9tvk2h79fvsqpb8l1ieppmhk577t@4ax.com>, Davidm wrote...

    Has anyone found a way to stop Win10 continually resetting the file
    associations for certain types of file (eg pdf file to Edge, jpg files
    to Photos). I want to keep my preferred apps for opening files!

    None of my W10 installations do this, and all are set to default to my >preferred utilities. I do wonder what's going on with yours! (There are >rather too many 'solutions' offered online, I fear...)

    If you want to set up a handy batch script as a workaround to set them back, >have a look at the Command-line ASSOC and FTYPE utilities: >https://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/assocftype.htm

    Happens constantly after most rounds of updates, on our Windows 10 Pro
    PCs: PDF and image readers and default browser, if not MS products,
    usually return to an MS default.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Feb 13 06:51:35 2023
    On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:
    Adobe wants that rent, pretty bad.

    All I can say, is "hug your copy of Foxit".


    Or in my case, PDF X-Change. I tried Foxit, several years back, and
    immediately uninstalled it. I can't remember what prompted that
    decision, but I do remember the uninstall was painful.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Mon Feb 13 08:12:59 2023
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:26:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
    PDF X-Change is a PDF editor, isn't it? I've never had a need to edit
    a PDF file, so I have no interest in it.


    There's a pro version that will do editing, but the only type of
    editing I ever need to do is splitting or merging PDFs, and mutools
    does fine for that.

    I don't count filling in forms as editing. My copy of PDF X-change
    does fine on most forms, though I had persistent trouble with NY
    State tax forms.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm on Mon Feb 13 08:26:10 2023
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 06:51:35 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:
    Adobe wants that rent, pretty bad.

    All I can say, is "hug your copy of Foxit".


    Or in my case, PDF X-Change. I tried Foxit, several years back, and >immediately uninstalled it. I can't remember what prompted that
    decision, but I do remember the uninstall was painful.

    I'm sorry you can't remember. I'd like to hear why. I like Foxit a
    lot. To me, it's the best of PDF readers.

    I briefly switched to Sumatra a few months ago. I liked it, but I
    liked Foxit better, so I went back to it.

    PDF X-Change is a PDF editor, isn't it? I've never had a need to edit
    a PDF file, so I have no interest in it.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm on Mon Feb 13 10:57:59 2023
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:12:59 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:26:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
    PDF X-Change is a PDF editor, isn't it? I've never had a need to edit
    a PDF file, so I have no interest in it.


    There's a pro version that will do editing, but the only type of
    editing I ever need to do is splitting or merging PDFs, and mutools
    does fine for that.

    I don't count filling in forms as editing. My copy of PDF X-change
    does fine on most forms, though I had persistent trouble with NY
    State tax forms.


    Looking more closely at the web, I see that there's a PDF X-Change
    Editor, for a fee, and a PDF X-Change Viewer that's free. But the
    latter is marked "Discontinued."

    I downloaded and installed it anyway and now have the same pdf file
    open in both it and Foxit, side by side.

    They both look fine to me, although there are a couple of differences
    that will make me stay with Foxit:

    Foxit has many more options. Although I seldom use any of them, you
    never know what needs may come up in the future,

    The file takes up the full width of the Foxit window, but in PDF
    X-Change Viewer it's smaller, only in the center of the window.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Tue Feb 14 02:05:22 2023
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:57:59 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
    The file takes up the full width of the Foxit window, but in PDF
    X-Change Viewer it's smaller, only in the center of the window.

    You can change that. Adjust the zoom percentage, or click the little
    toolbar icon with left and right arrows at the page edges. If you
    don't see that, Ctrl+2 fits page width to current window.

    But if you're happy with Foxit, I'm not going to suggest you change.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm on Tue Feb 14 08:13:00 2023
    On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 02:05:22 -0800, Stan Brown
    <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:57:59 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
    The file takes up the full width of the Foxit window, but in PDF
    X-Change Viewer it's smaller, only in the center of the window.

    You can change that. Adjust the zoom percentage, or click the little
    toolbar icon with left and right arrows at the page edges. If you
    don't see that, Ctrl+2 fits page width to current window.

    OK, thanks. As you might guess, I looked at it only briefly and missed
    that.


    But if you're happy with Foxit, I'm not going to suggest you change.


    Yes, I don't see any reason to change.

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