I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

--
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On 2/9/23 07:42, this is what Jim the Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I would say like other "end of support" statements, just mean that the company will not supply updates or patches etc.
Windows 7 lasted long after support, still does, but of course more and more software for it is stopping.

I think you can still use Macrium beyond that date.

I have a copy of Acronis I got for $19 when it hit sale. It works great.

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In article <ts360s$n26r$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

On 2/9/23 07:42, this is what Jim the Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I would say like other "end of support" statements, just mean that the company will not supply updates or patches etc.
Windows 7 lasted long after support, still does, but of course more and more software for it is stopping.

I think you can still use Macrium beyond that date.

I have a copy of Acronis I got for $19 when it hit sale. It works great.

I'm sure you are right, but just wondered what Macrium ot Acronus does
that is not there by default?

--
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On 2/9/2023 7:42 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

Macrium uses Volume Shadow Service (VSS) to take snapshots
of "busy" partitions like C: while the OS is still running.

It's not like the old Ghost, where every bloody backup
requires a reboot. And then the system was offline while
the backup ran.

It backs up just the file space. Twenty gigabytes of files
stored on a 1TB partition, produces a 20GB MRIMG file. No
white space is recorded (white space is the empty space
between files).

Neither is erasure part of the feature set. When you restore
a 20GB backup to a 1TB drive, the other 980GB of space are
not modified, and any file shards which could be scraped,
are still there. If you want a "clean" restore, you erase
the destination drive first, then restore the 20GB of files.
The other 980GB of the drive would be all-zeros at that point.

You can run a Verify on a MRIMG. This tells you that if you
needed to restore the information now, the checksum on the
thing is valid and not corrupted. I had a couple backups
corrupted by bad RAM on my now-dead WinXP machine, and I caught
that by randomly trying some Verify commands one day. Not all
corruption scenarios can be caught by a Verify, and I was
"very lucky" that this case got detected.

You can mount the filesystems inside an MRIMG file, as if the
thing was a disk drive.

Version 6.3.1865 could be the minimum version for
backing up a Windows 10 C: partition.

Microsoft has not done anything destructive to NTFS,
since the 6.3.1865 release. Macrium had to play "catchup",
when the Macrium integrity checks started failing after
Microsoft was messing around with NTFS. (Volume bitmap in
memory valid, volume bitmap on the physical disk, less so.)

Lots of commercial backup programs, work exactly like Macrium.
The difference, is in the quality of the restore, and what
tiny details some of the lesser competitors missed.

Macrium can restore to a different sized disk, and can make
a restored partition bigger or smaller than it used to be.
When you do that, the file layout may change, and Macrium
tends to defragment the restored partition in cases like that.

Version 6 has IMG2VHD program, which converts a backup image
into a VHD container, suitable for usage in VirtualBox. That
feature is not included in V7 and V8.

When you mount a MRIMG while inside Macrium, a virtual disk
will show up in Disk Management, you can use File Explorer
to drill down, and copy out a single file if you want,
then unmount the virtual disk again and put your backup away.
It's possible Ghost was the first program, to add features
like that (get files from a backup, without needing a
spare empty drive for restoration). Acronis TIH does
stuff like this too (and an older unbloated version of
TIH is best).

The Microsoft tool, it works, but it's like an unfinished
symphony. It stores stuff in folders, but instead of
one MRIMG file containing an entire session, the Microsoft
method has a bunch of config files plus some VHDX files
for its storage. Whereas with Macrium, if you name your
backups appropriately, you can eyeball the filenames in
File Explorer, and sort the gigantic files to best fit
onto your various hard drives. Manual space management is a lot
easier with a commercial backup tool.

A single MRIMG can store multiple hard drives (but, this is
not recommended, because the output file is quite large
and where would you store it?).

You can do a full backup in Macrium 8, and use the IMG2VHD
from Macrium 6 to make a VHD from the data. This is roughly
equivalent to how Microsoft stores a backup in the Windows 7
version of Windows 7 Backup program. Microsoft only places
one partition per VHD. But the Microsoft setup is more or
less a full backup and full restore program, suited to
restoring a system after a hard drive failure. It lacks
the flexibility of the commercial tools. Only some of
the commercial backup companies don't know what they're doing,
and fortunately, Macrium and Acronis aren't in that group :-)

The Macrium CD has "Boot Repair", which can help create
a cleaned up BCD file for Windows boot manager to use.
It is likely to remove your customization done with BCDEdit,
but then again, it could also repair stupid stuff you did
by accident to your boot materials.

Hardly any boot repair tools will put back missing files
for the ESP partition. That's not what boot repair is about. It is
not a cure for "wanton destruction", but it can tidy up
situations that were shy a few lines of directives but all
the files were really there the whole time. Sometimes you
use a Partition Manager program, start whizzing partitions
around like a circus juggler... the Boot Repair is what you
use when this mess no longer boots because some numbers or
identifiers got messed up. Boot Repair works great for that.
Just don't erase the ESP, and expect Macrium to regenerate
every stinking file from thin air.

A restore puts back an ESP, but maybe you don't really
want to do that (your backup is too old and the ESP in
the restore would be "smelly"). Boot Repair then, handles
the lightest weight damage scenarios.

If Macrium as a business, folded tomorrow, your software
still works. And it will continue to work, until Microsoft
messes around with how NTFS storage works (again). It is
pretty hard to predict what kind of a rage Microsoft will
go on next.

Macrium has limited support for Linux partitions. It can
back up and restore EXT4 for example. It does not correct
any BLKID values on Linux partitions. It does not Boot Repair
Linux GRUB. But the amount of work Macrium does, is sufficient
to keep a dual boot Windows/Linux disk operating, just fine.
There is no support for ZFS or ReiserFS or the like.

For "Stranger" partitions, Macrium can switch to "dd"
disk dump mode. But I have not purposely tested this.
The EXT4 backup for example, is a "smart" backup, and as
far as I know, it is backing up inodes and journal, and
the white space need not be recorded. If you have 20GB
of files on a 1TB EXT4, it takes about 30GB of space to
back that up (some invisible disk structures are getting
backed up too).

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

Paul

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On 2/9/23 12:13, this is what Jim the Geordie wrote:

In article <ts360s$n26r$1@dont-email.me>, Bears@invalid.com says...

On 2/9/23 07:42, this is what Jim the Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I would say like other "end of support" statements, just mean that the company will not supply updates or patches etc.
Windows 7 lasted long after support, still does, but of course more and more software for it is stopping.

I think you can still use Macrium beyond that date.

I have a copy of Acronis I got for $19 when it hit sale. It works great.

I'm sure you are right, but just wondered what Macrium ot Acronus does
that is not there by default?

I've only tested Acronis to take an image and change HD's and restore it. That worked.
I also did a clone from 80G to 100G drive. (that may tell you how long ago).

I use it now to image my Windows / Linus system and have restored Linux once when I really goofed something up. And
that worked.
I also messed up the EFI partition too and restored that and it worked

So I'm quite happy with the product. Restore and repair has no price tag.
al

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Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

   Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression, and
image validation post image backup creation....they both work(image and restore)
The only real difference as an example on three different devices(desk, laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same content/partitions respective to
each device on ATI or Macrium
Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a
few minutes faster.

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On 2/10/23 01:58, this is what ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

    Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
 ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression, and image validation post image backup
creation....they both work(image and restore)
 The only real difference as an example on three different devices(desk, laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same
content/partitions respective to each device on ATI or Macrium
 Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a few minutes faster.

Acronis 2021 is still perpetual licensed per this link. https://kb.acronis.com/content/65511#features

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On 2/10/23 07:54, this is what Big Al wrote:

On 2/10/23 01:58, this is what ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

    Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
  ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression, and image validation post image backup
creation....they both work(image and restore)
  The only real difference as an example on three different devices(desk, laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same
content/partitions respective to each device on ATI or Macrium
  Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a few minutes faster.

Acronis 2021 is still perpetual licensed per this link. https://kb.acronis.com/content/65511#features

Ah, there's a small blue * in the blue header and it says not in the Acronis store after Mar 1 2021. So it just might
be impossible to buy. Bummer.

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On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 12:42:09 -0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?

8 will be the last free version, but it should still work. I'm using 6
on some computers and there's no problem.

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Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in news:XnsAFA796A4F37A5nospaminvalidcom@88.198.57.247:

=?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in news:ts4pvk$vpl4$1@dont-email.me:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

   Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression,
and image validation post image backup creation....they both
work(image and restore)
The only real difference as an example on three different
devices(desk,
laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same content/partitions respective
to each device on ATI or Macrium
Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a
few minutes faster.

One difference I've noticed had to do with previewing pdfs and jpgs in Acronis images that have been opened in File Explorer.

I'm using Acronis True Image for Western Digital ver. 2021 build 39230.
If I double click on a .tibx image file in File Explorer, the file

opens

and displays all partitions imaged. Open a partition, and go to a
folder that has pdfs and jpgs. Pdfs will show previews in File
Explorer, but jpgs will not show a preview.

Same thing on my Windows 10 machine.

Macrium will preview both pdfs and jpgs.

If anyone is able to preview jpgs in Acronis images, please share.

Thanks.

Some more information:

When selecting a pdf, I get a preview in the preview pane.

When selecting an Excel file, I get, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a jpg, I get nothing in the preview pane, not even the
message, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a Word file, I get nothing in the preview pane, not even
the message, "This file can't be previewed."

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=?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in news:ts4pvk$vpl4$1@dont-email.me:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

   Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression,
and image validation post image backup creation....they both
work(image and restore)
The only real difference as an example on three different
devices(desk,
laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same content/partitions respective
to each device on ATI or Macrium
Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a
few minutes faster.

One difference I've noticed had to do with previewing pdfs and jpgs in
Acronis images that have been opened in File Explorer.

I'm using Acronis True Image for Western Digital ver. 2021 build 39230.
If I double click on a .tibx image file in File Explorer, the file opens
and displays all partitions imaged. Open a partition, and go to a
folder that has pdfs and jpgs. Pdfs will show previews in File
Explorer, but jpgs will not show a preview.

Same thing on my Windows 10 machine.

Macrium will preview both pdfs and jpgs.

If anyone is able to preview jpgs in Acronis images, please share.

Thanks.

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On 2/10/2023 6:07 PM, Boris wrote:

Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in news:XnsAFA796A4F37A5nospaminvalidcom@88.198.57.247:

One difference I've noticed had to do with previewing pdfs and jpgs in
Acronis images that have been opened in File Explorer.

I'm using Acronis True Image for Western Digital ver. 2021 build 39230.
If I double click on a .tibx image file in File Explorer, the file

opens

and displays all partitions imaged. Open a partition, and go to a
folder that has pdfs and jpgs. Pdfs will show previews in File
Explorer, but jpgs will not show a preview.

Same thing on my Windows 10 machine.

Macrium will preview both pdfs and jpgs.

If anyone is able to preview jpgs in Acronis images, please share.

Thanks.

Some more information:

When selecting a pdf, I get a preview in the preview pane.

When selecting an Excel file, I get, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a jpg, I get nothing in the preview pane, not even the message, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a Word file, I get nothing in the preview pane, not even
the message, "This file can't be previewed."

I don't know the answer to this, but I can pass on one observation.

The PDF previewer is not part of Windows. You can only preview
a PDF, using the Acrobat Reader DLL for the job. At least, that's
the way it used to work.

The other previewers, at least some of them, are built in. Like,
a Turbo JPG decoder for the JPGs that is so fast, it is faster
to generate a new preview, than to consult the thumbnail cache
and pull the previous preview out of it.

The .mrimg and the .tibx may have tick boxes, that indicate
the image is "Read only". It could be that having the status
of the image as Read Only, prevents the preview logic from working.
That's the only anomaly that comes to mind. I think when Macrium
makes their MRIMG read/write, it isn't true read/write and they
just throw away the writes when the MRIMG is unmounted.

Paul

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in news:ts7c9n$1bhbc$1@dont-email.me:

On 2/10/2023 6:07 PM, Boris wrote:

Boris <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in
news:XnsAFA796A4F37A5nospaminvalidcom@88.198.57.247:

One difference I've noticed had to do with previewing pdfs and jpgs

in

Acronis images that have been opened in File Explorer.

I'm using Acronis True Image for Western Digital ver. 2021 build

39230.

If I double click on a .tibx image file in File Explorer, the file

opens

and displays all partitions imaged. Open a partition, and go to a
folder that has pdfs and jpgs. Pdfs will show previews in File
Explorer, but jpgs will not show a preview.

Same thing on my Windows 10 machine.

Macrium will preview both pdfs and jpgs.

If anyone is able to preview jpgs in Acronis images, please share.

Thanks.

Some more information:

When selecting a pdf, I get a preview in the preview pane.

When selecting an Excel file, I get, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a jpg, I get nothing in the preview pane, not even the
message, "This file can't be previewed."

When seledcting a Word file, I get nothing in the preview pane, not

even

the message, "This file can't be previewed."

I don't know the answer to this, but I can pass on one observation.

The PDF previewer is not part of Windows. You can only preview
a PDF, using the Acrobat Reader DLL for the job. At least, that's
the way it used to work.

The other previewers, at least some of them, are built in. Like,
a Turbo JPG decoder for the JPGs that is so fast, it is faster
to generate a new preview, than to consult the thumbnail cache
and pull the previous preview out of it.

The .mrimg and the .tibx may have tick boxes, that indicate
the image is "Read only". It could be that having the status
of the image as Read Only, prevents the preview logic from working.
That's the only anomaly that comes to mind. I think when Macrium
makes their MRIMG read/write, it isn't true read/write and they
just throw away the writes when the MRIMG is unmounted.

Paul

I found this on the Acronis forum:

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2018-forum/can-we- view-backed-file-prior-restoring-individual-file

"Can we View the backed up file prior to Restoring the individual file?"

Looks like the thread began 4/22/2018. Many users asked if it's possible
to preview files so they'd first know if the file is one they wanted to restore. The forum moderator, Ekaterina, answered, "no".

There was no activity on this thread untile four years later, when a photographer wanted previews, too...

On 3/28/2022, Ekaterina, added a photographer user's comment as a
feature request TI-134141 Option to preview a file from the backup.

A search of TI-134141 finds nothing.

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On 2/11/2023 2:14 PM, Boris wrote:

I found this on the Acronis forum:

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2018-forum/can-we- view-backed-file-prior-restoring-individual-file

"Can we View the backed up file prior to Restoring the individual file?"

Looks like the thread began 4/22/2018. Many users asked if it's possible
to preview files so they'd first know if the file is one they wanted to restore. The forum moderator, Ekaterina, answered, "no".

There was no activity on this thread untile four years later, when a photographer wanted previews, too...

On 3/28/2022, Ekaterina, added a photographer user's comment as a
feature request TI-134141 Option to preview a file from the backup.

A search of TI-134141 finds nothing.

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2020-forum/mount-tibx-file

"Backup mounting is not present in 2020 for the new format.

Not sure of the status of this feature nor if it will be
available for the format. The Release notes simply say
it is unavailable."

Perhaps this is a difference between a .tib and a .tibx ?

In the same way that Microsoft has .vhd and .vhdx.

I don't know what version is being used here. But the guy is
opening a .tibx .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcMdYVXJWkw

And at this point, the .tibx is optional and .tib is
still available.

https://www.reddit.com/r/acronis/comments/ds193m/acronis_true_image_2020_new_tibx_backup_format_faq/

Paul

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Big Al wrote on 2/10/2023 5:57 AM:

On 2/10/23 07:54, this is what Big Al wrote:

On 2/10/23 01:58, this is what ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

    Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
  ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression,
and image validation post image backup creation....they both
work(image and restore)
  The only real difference as an example on three different
devices(desk, laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same
content/partitions respective to each device on ATI or Macrium
  Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a >>> few minutes faster.

Acronis 2021 is still perpetual licensed per this link.
https://kb.acronis.com/content/65511#features

Ah, there's a small blue * in the blue header and it says not in the
Acronis store after Mar 1 2021.    So it just might be impossible to buy.   Bummer.

Yes....I was going to mention that once getting around to responding.

Though, it should be quite obvious now, if any one attempts to buy or
upgrade any pre current(2022 is the current Acronis Cyber Security
program version replacing True Image erlier branded perpetual versions)
only the subscription versions are 'buyable'/'upgradeable'....and
regardless of the mode of attmpted upgrade(on web site or via current
installed program updater or progam's Acronis Store link).

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Boris wrote on 2/10/2023 3:48 PM:

=?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?= <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in news:ts4pvk$vpl4$1@dont-email.me:

Paul wrote on 2/9/2023 10:40 AM:

I'm using Macrium 7 at the moment, for full backups, and
I see no reason to switch to Macrium 8.

   Paul

Macrium 8 and Acronis 2020(ATI) - both work fine
ATI 2020 is the last non-subscription version

With reasonably similar settings on what is backed up, compression,
and image validation post image backup creation....they both
work(image and restore)
The only real difference as an example on three different
devices(desk,
laptop, Surface) imaging the exact same content/partitions respective
to each device on ATI or Macrium
Acronis makes a marginally smaller image(about 2-3 GB smaller) and a
few minutes faster.

One difference I've noticed had to do with previewing pdfs and jpgs in Acronis images that have been opened in File Explorer.

I'm using Acronis True Image for Western Digital ver. 2021 build 39230.
If I double click on a .tibx image file in File Explorer, the file opens
and displays all partitions imaged. Open a partition, and go to a
folder that has pdfs and jpgs. Pdfs will show previews in File
Explorer, but jpgs will not show a preview.

Same thing on my Windows 10 machine.

Macrium will preview both pdfs and jpgs.

If anyone is able to preview jpgs in Acronis images, please share.

Thanks.

Not discounting the subsequent discussion which I already read
I recall having a discussion a few years ago that centered on the reason
that different imaging programs may or may not rely on the handlers necessary(program or Windows unique-built-in) to display previews.
Preview in image inspection mode(in File Explorer) is dependent upon a pass-through to use the traditional available handler in File Explorer or
just ignore the handler and where ignored(as you later noted) sketchy
results may be the case.

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How is this version when cloning to a bigger ssd ?
Thinking of getting a family pack when version 9 comes out, but in the
mean time I am using v8 free.


KenW

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in news:ts8v9o$1gq2s$1@dont-email.me:

On 2/11/2023 2:14 PM, Boris wrote:

I found this on the Acronis forum:

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2018-forum/can-we-
view-backed-file-prior-restoring-individual-file

"Can we View the backed up file prior to Restoring the individual

file?"

Looks like the thread began 4/22/2018. Many users asked if it's

possible

to preview files so they'd first know if the file is one they wanted

to

restore. The forum moderator, Ekaterina, answered, "no".

There was no activity on this thread untile four years later, when a
photographer wanted previews, too...

On 3/28/2022, Ekaterina, added a photographer user's comment as a
feature request TI-134141 Option to preview a file from the backup.

A search of TI-134141 finds nothing.

https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2020-forum/mount-

tibx-file

"Backup mounting is not present in 2020 for the new format.

Not sure of the status of this feature nor if it will be
available for the format. The Release notes simply say
it is unavailable."

Perhaps this is a difference between a .tib and a .tibx ?

In the same way that Microsoft has .vhd and .vhdx.

I don't know what version is being used here. But the guy is
opening a .tibx .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcMdYVXJWkw

I'm also opening a .tibx image. I was just using File Explorer to
navigate to and open the .tibx. File Explorer then displayed all the partitions in the .tibx, but wouldn't display a preview of any jpg within
any partition folder.

If instead I mounted a .tbix image, as shown in the youtube video, not
only do all the jpgs withing a folder have 'preview icons', but when
clicked on, a preview also appears for the individual jpg, in the preview panel.

Many thanks.

And at this point, the .tibx is optional and .tib is
still available.

https://www.reddit.com/r/acronis/comments/ds193m/acronis_true_image

_2020_new_tibx_backup_format_faq/

Paul

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On 2/11/2023 6:23 PM, KenW wrote:

How is this version when cloning to a bigger ssd ?
Thinking of getting a family pack when version 9 comes out, but in the
mean time I am using v8 free.

KenW

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/qBY1tGnm/reflect8-still-limitation.gif

In the example, I cloned a 2TB storage device to a new 4TB storage device.

I wanted to resize the DATA partition, but the small partition on
the end, got in the way.

By not cloning the small partition, I can use the Next and Back
buttons in Macrium, then click the DATA partition, then use the
resize function near the bottom. The menu it presents, is shown
in the picture, before I resize the DATA partition and make
it 3TB in size. Then I run the operation and do the clone.

The remaining partition can be copied over later, after
that much of the operation finishes.

Paul

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Paul wrote on 2/11/2023 10:00 PM:

  [Picture]

  https://i.postimg.cc/qBY1tGnm/reflect8-still-limitation.gif

In the example, I cloned a 2TB storage device to a new 4TB storage device.

I wanted to resize the DATA partition, but the small partition on
the end, got in the way.

By not cloning the small partition, I can use the Next and Back
buttons in Macrium, then click the DATA partition, then use the
resize function near the bottom. The menu it presents, is shown
in the picture, before I resize the DATA partition and make
it 3TB in size. Then I run the operation and do the clone.

The remaining partition can be copied over later, after
that much of the operation finishes.

   Paul

Nice to see at least one person getting rid of that useless extra(at the
end, far right in Macrium snapshot) Recovery partition.

Have not tried, no need to atm, but could you have resized the 'real
Recovery' partition to 1 GB(or even larger) too???

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:33:46 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 12:42:09 -0000, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Jim the
Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I'm pretty sure you can get a free upgrade to 8 free.

I'm using 7 free rn.

I just got Free 8 for one of my puters.


KenW

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On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 12:42:09 -0000, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Jim the
Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been
lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered
whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10
accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I'm pretty sure you can get a free upgrade to 8 free.

I'm using 7 free rn.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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On 2/12/2023 3:07 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:

Paul wrote on 2/11/2023 10:00 PM:

   [Picture]

   https://i.postimg.cc/qBY1tGnm/reflect8-still-limitation.gif

In the example, I cloned a 2TB storage device to a new 4TB storage device. >>
I wanted to resize the DATA partition, but the small partition on
the end, got in the way.

By not cloning the small partition, I can use the Next and Back
buttons in Macrium, then click the DATA partition, then use the
resize function near the bottom. The menu it presents, is shown
in the picture, before I resize the DATA partition and make
it 3TB in size. Then I run the operation and do the clone.

The remaining partition can be copied over later, after
that much of the operation finishes.

    Paul

Nice to see at least one person getting rid of that useless extra(at the end, far right in Macrium snapshot) Recovery partition.

Have not tried, no need to atm, but could you have resized the 'real Recovery' partition to 1 GB(or even larger) too???

I think I have resized one of those, but it was on an
easier-to-modify MSDOS partitioned disk. Change it from 0x27
to 0x07, resize, then change it back. It turns out the GPT
wasn't a challenge.

I can see inside the partitions, with TestDisk. But generally,
as far as tool flow goes, dealing with the opaque partitions
always makes you a bit nervous.

In the picture here, I've done my resize procedure, and just
have to tidy up the DATA partition by extending it again. The
System Reserved (the working one, in the center) is now 1024MB.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/zB5kFyfQ/resize-a-system-reserved.gif

The steps to resize, aren't particular efficient, but it got
the job done.

1) Disk Management - shrink DATA a bit (right hand end)
2) PM14 Free - move DATA to right by about 1GB (leave some slop)
3) LinuxMint 20.3
sudo gdisk /dev/sdc
t # change partition type
4 # partition 4, System Reserved
0700 # to viewable NTFS type
w # Save to GPT tables and exit
4) LinuxMint 20.3
sudo gparted /dev/sdc
Expand partition 4 to precisely 1024MB (can do... on viewable NTFS)
5) LinuxMint 20.3
sudo gdisk /dev/sdc
t # change partition type
4 # partition 4, System Reserved
2700 # Put it back to original Hidden NTFS
w # Save to GPT tables and exit
6) PM14 Free - move DATA to left to butt up against resized partition 4
7) Disk Management - extend right-hand end of DATA a bit (butt against garb partition on end)

Paul

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:42:59 -0700, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:33:46 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 12:42:09 -0000, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Jim the >>Geordie wrote:

I have been using this for my external HDD for some time.
I have no idea how it works (or even if it does work) as I have been >>>lucky enough not to have Windows (10) fail on me.
Macrium are ceasing support at the end of the year and I wondered >>>whether I would be just as well protected using the Windows 10 >>>accessories?
Any help would be useful.

I'm pretty sure you can get a free upgrade to 8 free.

I'm using 7 free rn.

I just got Free 8 for one of my puters.

Even though I don't have any puters (or putters, or pooters, or
poofters, or pooftahs, or pudders ), I downloaded it yesterday. But I
haven't tried it yet.

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On 2023-02-12 12:50, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:42:59 -0700, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

I just got Free 8 for one of my puters.

Even though I don't have any puters (or putters, or pooters, or
poofters, or pooftahs, or pudders )

I do recall 'puter used in at least one Sci Fi book, though can't recall
which.

At least he's not using the plural term some Linux aficionados are fond of:
boxen

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danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:21:18 -0500, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2023-02-12 12:50, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:42:59 -0700, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

I just got Free 8 for one of my puters.

Even though I don't have any puters (or putters, or pooters, or
poofters, or pooftahs, or pudders )

I do recall 'puter used in at least one Sci Fi book, though can't recall >which.

He wrote "puter," not " 'puter." I don't like either abbreviation,
but to me " 'puter" is better, since the apostrophe signifies missing
letters. To me, either abbreviation is just silliness, and does
nothing but save a couple of keystrokes. I use Autohotkey to
automatically expand several abbreviations, and if I wanted to save
myself a few keystrokes, I would have Autohotkey expand "comp" to
"computer."

At least he's not using the plural term some Linux aficionados are fond of:
boxen

That's even worse.

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:50:54 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
[referring to Macrium reflect 8]

Even though I don't have any puters (or putters, or pooters, or
poofters, or pooftahs, or pudders ), I downloaded it yesterday. But I
haven't tried it yet.

I tried the free version to back up my C drive, and it worked just
fine - much faster than my old Acronis, and on most points a better
UI. I decided I should pay for it to encourage continued development.

But be aware that the free version (at least when I tried it, a
little over a year ago) takes an all-or-nothing approach to backups.
You can back up a whole partition, but you can't back up part of a
partition. For that you need the paid version. You also need the paid
version to back up a VeraCrypt encrypted partition, of which I have
two. It wasn't an issue for me because I had already decided to pay
for it, but if you are planning to use the free version make sure
that you aren't going to run up against those issues.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:21:18 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

At least he's not using the plural term some Linux aficionados are fond of:
boxen

Not so far, anyway.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 06:48:53 -0800, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:50:54 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
[referring to Macrium reflect 8]

Even though I don't have any puters (or putters, or pooters, or
poofters, or pooftahs, or pudders ), I downloaded it yesterday. But I
haven't tried it yet.

I tried the free version to back up my C drive, and it worked just
fine - much faster than my old Acronis, and on most points a better
UI. I decided I should pay for it to encourage continued development.

But be aware that the free version (at least when I tried it, a
little over a year ago) takes an all-or-nothing approach to backups.
You can back up a whole partition, but you can't back up part of a >partition.

Yes, thanks, I know. I plan to use it just to back up of all C:
(Windows and programs). For backup of D: (Data) I use Bart to back up
to two internal hard drives, one external drive, and over the network
to a drive on my wife's computer. I also use Carbonite for backup of
D:

Yes, that's a lot of redundancy, but I had all these unused spinner
disks, and using Bart is very fast. I have lots of belts and
suspenders.

For that you need the paid version. You also need the paid
version to back up a VeraCrypt encrypted partition, of which I have
two.

I have none, so that's not also an issue for me.

It wasn't an issue for me because I had already decided to pay
for it, but if you are planning to use the free version make sure
that you aren't going to run up against those issues.

Yes, thanks.

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