• Preview updates

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 17:03:20 2023
    Maybe I'm doing the updating wrong, but I've never updated the preview
    updates and they have always been optional. Today, my system needed a
    restart to finish the:
    2023-01 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 4.8 and 4.8.1
    for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (KB 5022476)
    There is an cumulative update preview (KB 5019275) listed below as an
    optional update.

    Why did the one get installed when I don't install optional updates
    without permission?

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 18:11:20 2023
    On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 17:03:20 -0600, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, sticks
    wrote:

    Maybe I'm doing the updating wrong, but I've never updated the preview >updates and they have always been optional. Today, my system needed a >restart to finish the:
    2023-01 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 4.8 and 4.8.1
    for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (KB 5022476)
    There is an cumulative update preview (KB 5019275) listed below as an >optional update.

    Why did the one get installed when I don't install optional updates
    without permission?

    Because the Preview .NET updates are screwed up and autoinstall.

    They used to hang Windows Update entirely, and that went on for quite a
    while. When you finally got it unhung (there were a variety of tricks)
    the "preview" would automatically install anyway.

    I think the way they fixed it was to just have it install automatically.

    Maybe they should stop using the word "preview," because they have never
    been optional on my Win 10 and Win 11 machines.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Feb 8 18:02:35 2023
    sticks wrote on 2/8/2023 4:03 PM:
    Maybe I'm doing the updating wrong, but I've never updated the preview updates and they have always been optional.  Today, my system needed a restart to finish the:
    2023-01 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 4.8 and 4.8.1
    for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (KB 5022476)
    There is an cumulative update preview  (KB 5019275) listed below as an optional update.

    Why did the one get installed when I don't install optional updates
    without permission?

    Normal for .NET 3/4x Cumulative Update Preview but not entirely for non-cumulative or non-Preview .NET 3/4x updates.

    Auto-deployed based on three reasons
    Access Windows Update
    Check for Updates
    Auto in background via BITS/WU

    Note: .NET Preview that do not include a security fix(i.e. non-security
    .NET) are not installed automatically.
    - These are rare, but have occasionally occurred since 2018(on Win10,
    now also applicable to Win11) - .NET(any) are Windows version specific.

    Iirc, its been about 3 yrs since the .NET Team @MSFT announced the change
    for .NET deployments and the auto mode(for Cumulative Preview .NET updates).


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 19:29:35 2023
    On 2/8/2023 7:02 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    sticks wrote on 2/8/2023 4:03 PM:
    Maybe I'm doing the updating wrong, but I've never updated the preview
    updates and they have always been optional.  Today, my system needed a
    restart to finish the:
    2023-01 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 4.8 and 4.8.1
    for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (KB 5022476)
    There is an cumulative update preview  (KB 5019275) listed below as an
    optional update.

    Why did the one get installed when I don't install optional updates
    without permission?

    Normal for .NET 3/4x Cumulative Update Preview but not entirely for non-cumulative  or non-Preview .NET 3/4x updates.

    Auto-deployed based on three reasons
     Access Windows Update
     Check for Updates
     Auto in background via BITS/WU

    Note: .NET Preview that do not include a security fix(i.e. non-security
    .NET) are not installed automatically.
     - These are rare, but have occasionally occurred since 2018(on Win10,
    now also applicable to Win11) - .NET(any) are Windows version specific.

    Iirc, its been about 3 yrs since the .NET Team @MSFT announced the
    change for .NET deployments and the auto mode(for Cumulative Preview
    .NET updates).


    Thanks, I guess....

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 13:27:48 2023
    On 2/8/2023 7:02 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
    sticks wrote on 2/8/2023 4:03 PM:
    Maybe I'm doing the updating wrong, but I've never updated the preview
    updates and they have always been optional.  Today, my system needed a
    restart to finish the:
    2023-01 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 4.8 and 4.8.1
    for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (KB 5022476)
    There is an cumulative update preview  (KB 5019275) listed below as an
    optional update.

    Why did the one get installed when I don't install optional updates
    without permission?

    Normal for .NET 3/4x Cumulative Update Preview but not entirely for non-cumulative  or non-Preview .NET 3/4x updates.

    Auto-deployed based on three reasons
     Access Windows Update
     Check for Updates
     Auto in background via BITS/WU

    Note: .NET Preview that do not include a security fix(i.e. non-security
    .NET) are not installed automatically.
     - These are rare, but have occasionally occurred since 2018(on Win10,
    now also applicable to Win11) - .NET(any) are Windows version specific.

    Iirc, its been about 3 yrs since the .NET Team @MSFT announced the
    change for .NET deployments and the auto mode(for Cumulative Preview
    .NET updates).


    Still being curious, I went back to take a look. I've haven't had this
    box too long, and the first Quality update on the list is from 3/3/21.
    There are a total of 50 Quality updates, and this is the very first and
    only one that has "Preview" in the update name. So I went and looked at it.

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/january-19-2023-kb5022476-cumulative-update-preview-for-net-framework-3-5-4-8-and-4-8-1-for-windows-10-version-21h2-d5ec8e57-6a73-446e-bdff-b4921b8c3298>

    Above, you say they are not installed automatically if they do not
    include a security fix. Their page says, "There are no new security improvements in this release."

    Under additional information, it cites and gives links for two other
    updates, that I guess this includes, and neither of those has any
    security improvements. Quality and Reliability improvements are all
    there is.

    I just don't like MS muddling things up by calling something a preview
    update and then installing it as a quality update.

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