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On Feb 05, 2023, rdb wrote
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What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/AdobeARM.exe-25493.html

Name
Adobe ARM

Filename
AdobeARM.exe

Command
"C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\AdobeARM.exe"

Description
Adobe Arm, otherwise known as Adobe Reader and Acrobat Manager, is an autoupdate utility that notifies you, downloads, and installs new updates
for these products. If you install these updates manually then you do not
need this program to start up automatically.

File Location
%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\AdobeARM.exe

Startup Type
This startup entry is started automatically from a Run, RunOnce,
RunServices, or RunServicesOnce entry in the registry.

HijackThis Category
O4 Entry

Note
%ProgramFiles% refers to the Program Files folder. The path to this folder
is C:\Program Files\ or C:\Program Files (X86)\ depending on whether the version of Windows or the program being installed is 32-bit or 64-bit.

This entry has been requested 607,892 times.

ADOBEARM.EXE Information

This is a valid program but it is not required to run on startup.

This program is not required to start automatically as you can run it when
you need to. It is advised that you disable this program so that it does
not take up necessary resources.

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On 2/5/2023 1:24 PM, rdb wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows computer?

I deleted it multiple times using Win+I>Apps>Uninstall
But Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keeps coming back.

I get a message it has been installed.
Who installed it?

I'm the only use of the PC and I didn't install it.
I want it gone.

Forever.
How?

When I press the uninstaller for details it says it runs C:|Windows\Installer\76afbe0.msi

Is that a special Adobe only app in my Windows folder?

It then asks to close the "Abobe Acrobat Reader DC Updater".
Is that the app I need to find and destroy?

If that "Adode Acrobat Reader DC Updater" show up when I
pressed Win+I>Apps & features?

I can open and edit PDFs without the Adobe products,
which I never want to see on my Windows computers again.

Adobe is all over my registry, unfortunately. For example HKLM\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\DC C:\Windows\Installer\{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-AC0F074E4100}\SC_Reader.ico
and so on.

Do I have to kill and destroy every Adobe reference
in my registry? If so, why does Adobe make it so difficult?

What can I do to get Adobe Reader DC off of my PC forever?

Do you have another program that depends on Adobe, and when you use that program, that programs installs Adobe Reader?

What is the default program for PDF files. There are several types of
Files used by the Adobe reader. Have you removed all of the file
associations that refer to the Adobe Reader.

What about the defaults in your browse, newsreader, or email program.

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On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:24:31 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows >computer?

Just a guess: you keep going to a web site to do something else, and
an option prechecked on that page is Adobe Acrobat Reader, and you
click OK without first unchecking the option.

I deleted it multiple times using Win+I>Apps>Uninstall
But Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keeps coming back.

I get a message it has been installed.
Who installed it?

I'm the only use of the PC and I didn't install it.
I want it gone.

Forever.
How?

When I press the uninstaller for details it says it runs >C:|Windows\Installer\76afbe0.msi

Is that a special Adobe only app in my Windows folder?

It then asks to close the "Abobe Acrobat Reader DC Updater".
Is that the app I need to find and destroy?

If that "Adode Acrobat Reader DC Updater" show up when I
pressed Win+I>Apps & features?

I can open and edit PDFs without the Adobe products,
which I never want to see on my Windows computers again.

Adobe is all over my registry, unfortunately. For example >HKLM\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\DC >C:\Windows\Installer\{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-AC0F074E4100}\SC_Reader.ico
and so on.

Do I have to kill and destroy every Adobe reference
in my registry? If so, why does Adobe make it so difficult?

What can I do to get Adobe Reader DC off of my PC forever?

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On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 12:46:18 -0700, in <ro10uhprv421bhqbv1so6td2un04kqhkm3@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:24:31 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows >>computer?

Just a guess: you keep going to a web site to do something else, and
an option prechecked on that page is Adobe Acrobat Reader, and you
click OK without first unchecking the option.

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser. Always look for unwanted junk that might be
hitching a ride with a download you really want and deselect the
hitchhikers before downloading.
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:53:03 +0000, Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2023 12:46:18 -0700, in ><ro10uhprv421bhqbv1so6td2un04kqhkm3@4ax.com>, Ken Blake ><Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 18:24:31 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows >>>computer?

Just a guess: you keep going to a web site to do something else, and
an option prechecked on that page is Adobe Acrobat Reader, and you
click OK without first unchecking the option.

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

Always look for unwanted junk that might be
hitching a ride with a download you really want and deselect the
hitchhikers before downloading.

Yes.

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On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news <news:ro10uhprv421bhqbv1so6td2un04kqhkm3@4ax.com>:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows >>computer?

Just a guess: you keep going to a web site to do something else, and
an option prechecked on that page is Adobe Acrobat Reader, and you
click OK without first unchecking the option.

If it were that simple I wouldn't be asking for help where I've seen your always stupid posts before and they're always never any help to anyone.

Please don't even bother wasting everyone's time with your stupidity.

Someone else said what the problem was only it was in the x86 folder. "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\AdobeARM.exe"

I wiped out the entire Adobe directory just to be sure.
If it comes back, I'll keep an eye out on how that happens.

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On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news <news:r672uhhhk96msah48bs1vmduhuraj35j7q@4ax.com>:

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

If it was that ridiculously obvious & simple I wouldn't have asked.
You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

You won't be able to help me or even yourself if that's your advice.

There's something inside the Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installation
setup, which I can find a whole bunch but I'm digging up each one.

It's either in the registry or in the task scheduler, probably both.
I've already wiped out a few of the updater files & regedit entries.

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

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On 05 Feb 2023, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> posted some news <news:trotqm$2kvqe$1@dont-email.me>:

Do you have another program that depends on Adobe, and when you use that program, that programs installs Adobe Reader?

I have the adobe acrobat writer which has been on the pc for a decade.
It works fine. I did install the reader once, a few years ago though.
Just to read a newer pdf format but I've since moved to non-Adobe apps.

What is the default program for PDF files.

The default reader is Foxit Reader 9.3 for *.pdf files.
The default reader is gsview64.exe for *.ps *.eps & *.prn files.

I only use Ghostscript/GhostView to remove print & editing permissions.

There are several types of
Files used by the Adobe reader.

I only know of these. Do you know of any others?

pdf Portable Document Format file
ps PostScript file
eps Encapsulated PostScript file
prn PostScript or Encapsulated PostScript print files

Have you removed all of the file
associations that refer to the Adobe Reader.

I checked all the file associations above and none are set to that.

What about the defaults in your browse, newsreader, or email program.

Browsers are always set to download all file types other than images.
Email and newsreader also set to download as they're lousy viewers.

It's something sneaky that only started happening after the last Microsoft Windows update which I suspect turned back on one of the "scheduled tasks"
that I typically turn off by shutting service - but I don't remember which
one. (As an aside, someday I'll implement a system log of my changes.)

What I deleted is the Acrobat writer updater which maybe was misbehaving. C:\Program Files\Acrobat8\Acrobat\AdobeUpdateManager.exe
And I deleted everything in the Adobe Common Files directory too.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe
That's where the Adobe updater and its services was located. %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\armsvc.exe
%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\adobearm.exe

I also wiped out all the Adobe keys that seemed to be updating in the
system registry & I ran this tool to permanently disable Adobe updates. https://www.raymond.cc/blog/quickly-check-change-critical-software-auto-update-status/

Also I disabled the Adobe scheduled tasks in taskschd.msc.
taskschd.msc > Task Schedule Library > Adobe Acrobat Update Task > Disable
And the Adobe Acrobat Update Service too.
services.msc > Adobe Acrobat Update Service > Properties > Disabled

The registry is always the hardest to deal with because you don't know what
it will effect when you mess with it, where the main keys seem to be in Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Adobe\

Some of the keys I deleted were, for example. \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Adobe\Adobe ARM\1.0\ARM\Products\Reader

What anything is doing in a directory called "WOW" is confusing though.

Anyway, I think I probably killed it. But now I have to wait and see
because it comes back after every automatic Windows update it seems.

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On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 23:43:43 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news ><news:r672uhhhk96msah48bs1vmduhuraj35j7q@4ax.com>:

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

If it was that ridiculously obvious & simple I wouldn't have asked.
You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

You won't be able to help me or even yourself if that's your advice.

There's something inside the Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installation
setup, which I can find a whole bunch but I'm digging up each one.

It's either in the registry or in the task scheduler, probably both.
I've already wiped out a few of the updater files & regedit entries.

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

Maybe a free uninstaller may find something you missed. "Autoruns"
also.


KenW

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KenW wrote on 2/6/2023 5:32 PM:

On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 23:43:43 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news
<news:r672uhhhk96msah48bs1vmduhuraj35j7q@4ax.com>:

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

If it was that ridiculously obvious & simple I wouldn't have asked.
You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

You won't be able to help me or even yourself if that's your advice.

There's something inside the Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installation
setup, which I can find a whole bunch but I'm digging up each one.

It's either in the registry or in the task scheduler, probably both.
I've already wiped out a few of the updater files & regedit entries.

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

Maybe a free uninstaller may find something you missed. "Autoruns"
also.

KenW
As a test, I've uninstalled Adobe Reader DC Classic - Classic is the

non-cloud optional DC version.
Any attempts to open PDF files after assigning PDF to FoxIt or Windows
own built in PDF reader do not yield any prompts to install/use Adobe
Reader DC.
Any system attempts to update Adobe DC(Startup, Apps, etc) are not
present and without having cleaned the registry or deleting orphaned
folders left over after Adobe Reader DC uninstallation.

Retested, again with installing Adobe Reader DC Continuous(the cloud
version). After a day, uninstalled that, like after DC Classic removal reassigning PDF to other PDF capable applications/apps, and not cleaning registry or deleting orphaned folders no prompts to install/use Adobe
Reader DC.

Something else is in play on the op's device.

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On 07 Feb 2023, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> posted some news <news:7u63uh532of0cr6f50sbhl3rlnentglk82@4ax.com>:

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

Maybe a free uninstaller may find something you missed. "Autoruns"
also.

That's a good idea which I hadn't mentioned that I have used Wise snapshot
& the hunter killer Rivo Uninstaller on the Adobe product in the past.

I think I've mixed a bit too many of these since I keep Advanced
Uninstaller running in the background, and the ZSoft Uninstaller too.

I used to use the IOBit Uninstaller but it advertised me to death so I
killed it. But sometimes I wonder if these hunter/killer automatic
installers conflict with each other.

Still, it only seems to happen after a Windows update.

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On 2/5/2023 1:24 PM, rdb wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows computer?

I deleted it multiple times using Win+I>Apps>Uninstall
But Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keeps coming back.

I get a message it has been installed.
Who installed it?

I'm the only use of the PC and I didn't install it.
I want it gone.

Forever.
How?

When I press the uninstaller for details it says it runs C:|Windows\Installer\76afbe0.msi

Is that a special Adobe only app in my Windows folder?

It then asks to close the "Abobe Acrobat Reader DC Updater".
Is that the app I need to find and destroy?

If that "Adode Acrobat Reader DC Updater" show up when I
pressed Win+I>Apps & features?

I can open and edit PDFs without the Adobe products,
which I never want to see on my Windows computers again.

Adobe is all over my registry, unfortunately. For example HKLM\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\DC C:\Windows\Installer\{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-AC0F074E4100}\SC_Reader.ico
and so on.

Do I have to kill and destroy every Adobe reference
in my registry? If so, why does Adobe make it so difficult?

What can I do to get Adobe Reader DC off of my PC forever?

It is doing this too, on company servers.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-reader-discussions/adobe-reader-dc-keeps-updating-itself-to-adobe-acrobat-pro-dc/m-p/12450057

The Adobe marketing monkeys are pleased as punch,
as there is no reply regarding the issue. Adobe is
not interested in fixing this.

There's a suggestion that Reader is wired (bomb squad style)
to start a seven-day trial of Pro, if you click the "rotate page"
button (CW or CCW buttons).

Paul

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Paul wrote on 2/7/2023 12:41 AM:

On 2/5/2023 1:24 PM, rdb wrote:

What is making Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keep coming back onto my Widnows
computer?

I deleted it multiple times using Win+I>Apps>Uninstall
But Adobe Acrobat Reader DC keeps coming back.

I get a message it has been installed.
Who installed it?

I'm the only use of the PC and I didn't install it.
I want it gone.

Forever.
How?

When I press the uninstaller for details it says it runs
C:|Windows\Installer\76afbe0.msi

Is that a special Adobe only app in my Windows folder?

It then asks to close the "Abobe Acrobat Reader DC Updater".
Is that the app I need to find and destroy?

If that "Adode Acrobat Reader DC Updater" show up when I
pressed Win+I>Apps & features?

I can open and edit PDFs without the Adobe products,
which I never want to see on my Windows computers again.

Adobe is all over my registry, unfortunately. For example
HKLM\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\DC
C:\Windows\Installer\{AC76BA86-7AD7-1033-7B44-AC0F074E4100}\SC_Reader.ico
and so on.

Do I have to kill and destroy every Adobe reference
in my registry? If so, why does Adobe make it so difficult?

What can I do to get Adobe Reader DC off of my PC forever?

It is doing this too, on company servers.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-reader-discussions/adobe-reader-dc-keeps-updating-itself-to-adobe-acrobat-pro-dc/m-p/12450057

The Adobe marketing monkeys are pleased as punch,
as there is no reply regarding the issue. Adobe is
not interested in fixing this.

There's a suggestion that Reader is wired (bomb squad style)
to start a seven-day trial of Pro, if you click the "rotate page"
button (CW or CCW buttons).

   Paul

Earlier today I recalled that auto-updating from Reader to Pro was an
issue in the Enterprise community on Win10/Server 2019.
- I queried a group of Admin's(a few hundred members) in the Enterprise communities that are responsible for multiple thousands of Windows 10,
11, Server 2019/2022 using Adobe Reader DC Classic or Continuous.
12 responses - all indicated in one form or another an old problem with
Reader DC Continous(not the non-cloud Classic) update that caused
attempts to upgrade to paid version
- no longer an issue
- which probably coincides with the 2 yr old article initial post and
at the rate of deployment in some Enterprise even the last few
posts(reasonably useless contributions) 6 months old.

Smoke and mirrors relative to the op's issue

Querying that group was one also one of the reasons I tested uninstalling
Adobe DC Classic and Continuous on Win10/11 in an attempt to duplicate
the op's issue(still, hours later - nada attempt to force install DC
anything)



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On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 23:43:43 -0000 (UTC), rdb <rdb@usa.usa> wrote:

On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news ><news:r672uhhhk96msah48bs1vmduhuraj35j7q@4ax.com>:

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

If it was that ridiculously obvious & simple I wouldn't have asked.

Two points:

1. I said "Just a guess."

2. I know nothing about how much you know.

You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

Feel free to killfile me.

You won't be able to help me or even yourself if that's your advice.

There's something inside the Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installation
setup, which I can find a whole bunch but I'm digging up each one.

It's either in the registry or in the task scheduler, probably both.
I've already wiped out a few of the updater files & regedit entries.

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

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On 07 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news <news:8sq4uhll09ppdn3bfkm1ugd3fhgvk2ijqj@4ax.com>:

You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

Feel free to killfile me.

It's not just me. Everyone should killfile you. You waste their time.
You always post as if you know something but you always know nothing.

You waste everyone's time each time you post.
Most of your posts are about your personal problems besides.

It's the waste of time that you constantly cause everyone that I decry.

Anyway, I haven't seen Adobe Acrobat Reader DC come back.
I think removing the updaters and all the registry entries and removing the schedyuled tasks is what worked as a group but I don't know if any would
have worked alone.

These are some of the updater files I removed with the Adobe directory. %ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\armsvc.exe
%ProgramFiles%\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\adobearm.exe

These are some of the scheduled tasks I removed that Adobe added.
taskschd.msc > Task Schedule Library > Adobe Acrobat Update Task > Delete services.msc > Adobe Acrobat Update Service > Properties > Delete

These are some of the Adobe Windows-on-Windows registry keys I removed. Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Adobe\Adobe ARM\1.0\ARM\Products\Reader

I also ran this remove adobe updater registry file for regedit to fix. https://raymondcc.r.worldssl.net/Adobe_Reader_DC_Updates.zip

That zip archive contains two files.
Adobe_Reader_DC_Disable_Updates.reg
Adobe_Reader_DC_Enable_Updates.reg

The Adobe_Reader_DC_Disable_Updates.reg does this
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Adobe\Acrobat
Reader\DC\FeatureLockDown]
"bUpdater"=dword:00000000

The Adobe_Reader_DC_Enable_Updates.reg undoes that.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Adobe\Acrobat
Reader\DC\FeatureLockDown]
"bUpdater"=-

There are a few more things I did with hunter killer apps like
Rivo Uninstaller, Advanced Uninstaller and the ZSoft Uninstaller.

It only seems to happen after a Windows update so I will probably have to
wait for a while unless it comes back sooner.

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On 06/02/2023 23:43, rdb wrote:

On 06 Feb 2023, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> posted some news <news:r672uhhhk96msah48bs1vmduhuraj35j7q@4ax.com>:

Good advice! That's also a wonderful way to get an unwanted copy of
the Chrome browser.

Yes.

If it was that ridiculously obvious & simple I wouldn't have asked.
You always post ridiculously simple and obvious "help" as a troll.

You won't be able to help me or even yourself if that's your advice.

There's something inside the Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installation
setup, which I can find a whole bunch but I'm digging up each one.

It's either in the registry or in the task scheduler, probably both.
I've already wiped out a few of the updater files & regedit entries.

All that is too far above your pay grade so please don't respond.

Now you've shot the messenger, what's next?

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