• Star Lite Linux laptop

    From Tiger Taurus@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 18 16:46:59 2020
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    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good? https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Tiger Taurus on Fri Sep 18 21:06:50 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good? https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review

    1st hit: https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
    "... laptop with budget specs."

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  • From Tiger Taurus@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Sep 23 02:05:24 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    On 2020-09-18 10:06 p.m., VanguardLH wrote:
    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review

    1st hit: https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
    "... laptop with budget specs."


    Thanks, though you'll note that the question wasn't "are there any
    reviews of this product on the web?"

    I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
    with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
    search engine.
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  • From Stephane Tougard@21:1/5 to Tiger Taurus on Wed Sep 23 17:30:09 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.]
    On 2020-09-23, Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:
    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
    I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
    with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
    search engine.

    I did not even know the brand, just watching the web site and already I
    can see that the keyboard sucks at very best. I would not say much on
    the screen, I notice that they don't say how many nits it gives, which
    is not a very good sign.

    Capacities are impressive for the price, I would not trust this kind of hardware on the long run. I prefer to pay expensive and get the quality,
    I work only with Thinkpad so far but I'm still waiting for an
    alternative (through the keyboard of the last X1 sucks).

    Beside that, I guess nobody has tried one of those because they are on Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Tiger Taurus on Thu Sep 24 02:44:06 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    On 2020-09-18 10:06 p.m., VanguardLH wrote:
    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review

    1st hit:
    https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
    "... laptop with budget specs."


    Thanks, though you'll note that the question wasn't "are there any
    reviews of this product on the web?"

    I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
    with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
    search engine.

    I knew you'd come back with that response.

    Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
    the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
    you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
    you actually said.

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  • From wenpyle@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 25 02:23:25 2020
    Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
    the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
    you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
    you actually said.

    Now you are the one that seems to be confusing the issue....How in Heavan's name can someone use
    without trying it first.


    Just remember flame burn the victims as well as the starter sometimes.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to wen...@gmail.com on Fri Sep 25 14:36:03 2020
    wen...@gmail.com wrote:
    Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
    the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
    you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
    you actually said.

    Now you are the one that seems to be confusing the issue....How in Heavan's name can someone use
    without trying it first.


    Just remember flame burn the victims as well as the starter sometimes.

    This whole thread, as a spamming effort, speaks poorly of the company in question.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Tiger Taurus on Mon Sep 28 04:25:09 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    Tiger Taurus wrote:
    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good? https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    The Acer Swift 1 has the Pentium Silver N5000 processor in it,
    and can be used as a proxy of what to expect from a computing
    perspective.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/09/battle-of-the-350-laptops-acer-swift-1-vs-gateway-ryzen-3-3200u/?comments=1

    "The Swift 1's Pentium Silver N5000 is an entirely different
    beast, designed for maximum electrical and thermal efficiency
    with everything else left to go hang"

    "Specifically, the Swift 1 choked badly on Facebook's new layout.
    Attempting to type a short paragraph about electrical connections
    resulted in text buffering - leaving us to watch as it "typed" itself
    out, character by laborious character, for another couple of minutes.
    To be fair, this is more about Facebook sucking than about the
    Swift 1 - but also to be fair, a lot of people will expect to use
    Facebook on their new laptop."

    The question then, is what era did this product come from.

    Nobody is kind to hardware any more, which means you
    purchase more power than can reasonably be expected,
    to get a result. When I look at my own equipment here,
    I keep saying to myself "what if that ran at 5GHz instead",
    and then I shake my head and say "no, of course it's never enough".
    You can't beat them at this game. There's no such thing
    as a processor that's "fast enough for the web". It's too easy for
    them to add more looping Javascript code.

    Paul

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Stephane Tougard on Mon Sep 28 13:28:56 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    Stephane Tougard <stephane@sdf.org> wrote:

    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.]
    Ignored since I read it in alt.comp.hardware. Original Newsgroups
    header restored.

    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    Beside that, I guess nobody has tried one of those because they are on Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.

    web.archive.org lists the first instance of this web page was recorded
    back on June 22, 2020, and it was on pre-order back then (for $421). 3
    months later it is still available only via pre-order. If you want to
    see their production schedule, see:

    https://support.starlabs.systems/status

    Guess delivery depends on when you enlisted in their pre-order sales.
    From "Mk IV's are on their way to us" hints that someone else is making
    their laptops and they just slap their sticker to brand them as theirs.
    From https://starlabs.systems/pages/about-us, I got a grin from the
    comments on "pub" and "pints". They say they started with Clevo (https://www.clevo.com.tw/) as their supplier, but have tooled up to
    make their laptops themselves. Okay, they why does their product status mention they are still waiting for shipments?

    Back then, they listed Pentium Silver N5030 as the CPU. Now they're
    listing the Pentium Silver N5000 as the CPU. The differences between
    then and now, and for the SAME model, are:

    Then Now
    Price: $421 $431
    Processor: N5030 CPU N5000 CPU
    Faster: 34% @ 3.1GHz 29% @ 2.7GHz (burst, not sustained)
    Charger: 65W 60W (different units)
    Open warranty: Not mentioned Yes
    Preinstalled OS:5 listed 6 listed (MX Linux added)

    They claim "faster", "lighter", and other superlatives but never
    actually expose against what they are comparing. Faster than what?
    Lighter than what? They're even crappier Mk I or II models? They don't
    say. They have asterisked some specs, but no matching note for the
    asterisked comments. Guess you're supposed to visit their Compare page,
    where they compare against their notebook with a larger screen (13")
    hence the obvious reason why the MK III is lighter (11"). The Compare
    page was available for their current product page. web.archive.org
    didn't have their Compare page archived back on Jun-22-2020. There are
    other comparisons they deliberately omitted, like the MK III has a 480p
    camera versus the 720p in their 13" model.

    The MK III has the same 7-hour battery up-time as the 13" comparison
    model; however, another reason besides the smaller screen for their
    claim of weight reduction is that the comparison model has a bigger
    battery for use with the bigger screen. So, the MK III gives you a
    smaller screen and smaller battery to reduce weight but with a 2"
    smaller screen and definitely less robust CPU.

    Have to wonder how they can claim their MK III is faster than their 13"
    model. The MK III has a 1.1GHz quad-core N5000, 2.7GHz burst, 4MB cache
    versus their 13" which has a 2.1GHz dual-core i3, 4.1GHz burst, 4MB
    cache. Two extra cores will look good in benchmarking, not in actual
    use. The same 2400MHz DDR memory is listed for both yet they claim
    their MK III has 33% faster memory. In their product description, they
    omit noting the MK III uses the UHD 605 integrated controller versus the
    UHD 620 in the 13" comparison model. A comparison of them is noted at https://tinyurl.com/y6j4r8cs. I also saw reviews noting the MK III had problems rendering web pages at Facebook which many users expect to
    visit.

    The MK III reminds me of my first smartphone. That was before I knew
    much about smarphones and based my purchase on brand (Samsung),
    marketing, misleading model numbering, and price. Boy, was I sorry I
    got that one. Way too slow. For example, I was at the dentist office,
    wanted to check my schedule, and after 2 minutes gave up waiting for my
    phone to come up and told them to just go ahead and make the
    appointment. The MK III looks like a very low entry level netbook, but
    perhaps sufficient for low-level Linux demands. The OP never revealed
    how he expects to use a laptop and only Linux.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Sep 28 18:10:09 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    On 2020-09-18 10:06 p.m., VanguardLH wrote:
    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review

    1st hit:
    https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
    "... laptop with budget specs."


    Thanks, though you'll note that the question wasn't "are there any
    reviews of this product on the web?"

    I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
    with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
    search engine.

    I knew you'd come back with that response.

    Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
    the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
    you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
    you actually said.

    Here's a guy that has personal experience with the Star Labs MK III:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aIyQ_XiFYg

    Alas, nope, he doesn't visit here, either.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Tue Sep 29 16:40:07 2020
    XPost: comp.os.linux.hardware

    VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    On 2020-09-18 10:06 p.m., VanguardLH wrote:
    Tiger Taurus <tiger200816@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
    https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii

    https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review

    1st hit:
    https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
    "... laptop with budget specs."


    Thanks, though you'll note that the question wasn't "are there any
    reviews of this product on the web?"

    I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
    with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
    search engine.

    I knew you'd come back with that response.

    Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
    the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
    you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
    you actually said.

    Here's a guy that has personal experience with the Star Labs MK III:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aIyQ_XiFYg

    Alas, nope, he doesn't visit here, either.


    Interesting video.
    - he was not happy with the USB port allocations (1 x usb-c and 2 x
    usb-a instead of vice-versa)
    - he was unhappy with the Micro-SD slot
    - the speakers are placed *really* badly
    - he was not happy that the only available keyboard was UK, not even US.
    - he thought it insane that the Intel IME was enabled in the bios.

    There was more to the video of course, but those are the complaints that
    I remembered. Apart from those issues he liked the beast a lot, and it
    could handle multiple distributions.

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