• silly, but a sign of the approaching apocalypse

    From Shadow@21:1/5 to phamp@mindspring.com on Fri Feb 28 17:44:35 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:33:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
    <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95. So the question came to me ?Do I have the install disks
    for an earlier version of WP?
    And this is the portent. I was able to find the storage drawers
    with all the 3.5 floppies in it, near the top of the pile. And
    unsealing the drawers, in the first (of six possible) drawer, were the >install disks.
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    It's good.
    Make an image of those floppies. They won't last forever now
    they're "out in the open" ... someone WILL spill coffee on them.
    ;)
    []'s
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    We have a new policy - Google 2012

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 28 12:33:41 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95. So the question came to me ?Do I have the install disks
    for an earlier version of WP?
    And this is the portent. I was able to find the storage drawers
    with all the 3.5 floppies in it, near the top of the pile. And
    unsealing the drawers, in the first (of six possible) drawer, were the
    install disks.
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    tschus
    pyotr

    and like the old man "Confessing? I'm telling everybody!"
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    The question was asked: "Is Hindsight overrated?"
    In retrospect, it appears to be.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Fri Feb 28 16:46:15 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    pyotr filipivich wrote:
    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95. So the question came to me ?Do I have the install disks
    for an earlier version of WP?
    And this is the portent. I was able to find the storage drawers
    with all the 3.5 floppies in it, near the top of the pile. And
    unsealing the drawers, in the first (of six possible) drawer, were the install disks.
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    tschus
    pyotr

    and like the old man "Confessing? I'm telling everybody!"

    And the machine doesn't have Spectre or Meltdown either.

    You'll probably have to write your own malware for it.

    Paul

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Feb 28 15:22:01 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    On 2020-02-28 13:46, Paul wrote:
     It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case. Windows 95.

    Oh good. When you said "approaching apocalypse" I
    thought maybe you had installed Windows 10. Had
    me worried there for a moment!

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Feb 29 00:49:32 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 16:46:15, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    pyotr filipivich wrote:
    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95.
    []
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    []
    And the machine doesn't have Spectre or Meltdown either.

    You'll probably have to write your own malware for it.

    Paul

    LOL!
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    And Jonathan Harker would never have sent all those letters to his beloved
    Mina from Transylvania, he'd have texted her instead. "Stuck in weird castle w guy w big teeth. Missing u. xxxx (-:" - Alison Graham, RT 2015/11/7-13

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 28 18:33:32 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> on Fri, 28 Feb 2020 16:46:15 -0500 typed
    in alt.windows7.general the following:
    pyotr filipivich wrote:
    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95. So the question came to me ?Do I have the install disks
    for an earlier version of WP?
    And this is the portent. I was able to find the storage drawers
    with all the 3.5 floppies in it, near the top of the pile. And
    unsealing the drawers, in the first (of six possible) drawer, were the
    install disks.
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    tschus
    pyotr

    and like the old man "Confessing? I'm telling everybody!"

    And the machine doesn't have Spectre or Meltdown either.

    You'll probably have to write your own malware for it.

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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  • From Wildman@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Fri Feb 28 21:27:50 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:33:32 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.

    No problem.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lppu5k3otvouin/Usbsupp.exe?dl=1

    --
    <Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
    The cow died so I don't need your bull!

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  • From Sjouke Burry@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Sat Feb 29 06:13:21 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    On 29.02.20 3:33, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> on Fri, 28 Feb 2020 16:46:15 -0500 typed
    in alt.windows7.general the following:
    pyotr filipivich wrote:
    At a nearby thrift store, there has been a laptop for sale:
    "untested". $9.99 plus tax.
    It works, has all the stuff for it, still in original case.
    Windows 95. So the question came to me ?Do I have the install disks
    for an earlier version of WP?
    And this is the portent. I was able to find the storage drawers
    with all the 3.5 floppies in it, near the top of the pile. And
    unsealing the drawers, in the first (of six possible) drawer, were the
    install disks.
    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    tschus
    pyotr

    and like the old man "Confessing? I'm telling everybody!"

    And the machine doesn't have Spectre or Meltdown either.

    You'll probably have to write your own malware for it.

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.

    Google for dos usb drivers.
    95 is just a shell running on dos, so if you can get it working in dos,
    it might be accessable in 95.
    In the past I have found a number of packs for usb-cdrom interfaces.
    Checking:
    listing:
    dosusb.txt
    hd352u_dos.zip
    iomega_usb_firewire_dos_driver_boot_disk.ZIP
    kxlrw40an.exe
    mhairu.zip
    OHCImouse.EXE
    UHCImouse.EXE
    usb13.exe
    USBASPI.SYS
    USBCDROM.EXE
    usb_cd.sys

    Collected them but have not used them.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 28 22:05:23 2020
    Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> on Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:27:50 -0600 typed
    in alt.comp.os.windows-xp the following:
    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:33:32 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.

    No problem.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lppu5k3otvouin/Usbsupp.exe?dl=1

    Thanks. The problem is that the desktop box doesn't have a floppy drive, and until I can get the USB drives loaded, I can't use the
    flash drives to transfer files.
    Catch-22.

    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Sat Feb 29 13:05:43 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
    [...]
    However, the main problem I have is that two of the install disks have developed "bit rot". Bad sectors and the file can't be read. Oh
    well, after 25 years, I can't complain too loudly.

    If you have PC Tools or Norton Utilities (I forget), you could try to 'revive' the bad sectors. That used to work quite well in The Old Days
    (TM). Perhaps it still works after 25 years.

    IIRC, PC Tools or Norton Utilities could make a disk copy of the good
    parts of a bad disk. If so, you could make a backup disk before you
    start fiddling with the original one.

    FWIW, I also still have several hundred diskettes and floppies,
    patiently sitting in a box, waiting for a time which will probably never
    come! :-) c.q. :-(

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 29 08:44:26 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 29 Feb 2020 13:05:43 GMT
    typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
    pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
    [...]
    However, the main problem I have is that two of the install disks
    have developed "bit rot". Bad sectors and the file can't be read. Oh
    well, after 25 years, I can't complain too loudly.

    If you have PC Tools or Norton Utilities (I forget), you could try to
    'revive' the bad sectors. That used to work quite well in The Old Days
    (TM). Perhaps it still works after 25 years.

    IIRC, PC Tools or Norton Utilities could make a disk copy of the good
    parts of a bad disk. If so, you could make a backup disk before you
    start fiddling with the original one.

    FWIW, I also still have several hundred diskettes and floppies,
    patiently sitting in a box, waiting for a time which will probably never >come! :-) c.q. :-(

    "That too is on 'Plans and Programs'."
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 29 17:26:25 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 08:44:26, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com>
    wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 29 Feb 2020 13:05:43 GMT
    typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
    []
    FWIW, I also still have several hundred diskettes and floppies,
    patiently sitting in a box, waiting for a time which will probably never >>come! :-) c.q. :-(

    "That too is on 'Plans and Programs'."

    Turn some of those discs into tuits.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer (1804-1864)

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  • From pjp@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 29 18:30:01 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    In article <r3dr3c.hjk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>,
    this@ddress.is.invalid says...

    pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
    [...]
    However, the main problem I have is that two of the install disks have developed "bit rot". Bad sectors and the file can't be read. Oh well, after 25 years, I can't complain too loudly.

    If you have PC Tools or Norton Utilities (I forget), you could try to 'revive' the bad sectors. That used to work quite well in The Old Days
    (TM). Perhaps it still works after 25 years.

    IIRC, PC Tools or Norton Utilities could make a disk copy of the good
    parts of a bad disk. If so, you could make a backup disk before you
    start fiddling with the original one.

    FWIW, I also still have several hundred diskettes and floppies,
    patiently sitting in a box, waiting for a time which will probably never come! :-) c.q. :-(

    So did I. All junk and unreadable now. Only good for fire starters as
    won't even format.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 29 20:29:16 2020
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> on Sat, 29 Feb 2020
    17:26:25 +0000 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
    On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 08:44:26, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> >wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> on 29 Feb 2020 13:05:43 GMT
    typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
    []
    FWIW, I also still have several hundred diskettes and floppies, >>>patiently sitting in a box, waiting for a time which will probably never >>>come! :-) c.q. :-(

    "That too is on 'Plans and Programs'."

    Turn some of those discs into tuits.

    First I need space to set up the machines which can do those
    things.

    It is sort of like the situation with the house. All I want to do
    is add a bath tub. Which will require ..., and then .., and while
    we've got things opened up ... and in the end, it would probably be
    cheaper to take the screen door off the front door and put it on a new
    house.
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to phamp@mindspring.com on Sun Mar 1 06:25:01 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:33:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
    <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the
    computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    But idf you want to transfer your notes to somewhere else?

    Does it have a USB port, or any other way of communicating with other computers?


    --
    Steve Hayes
    http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    http://khanya.wordpress.com

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 1 16:22:09 2020
    XPost: alt.os.windows.xp, corel.wpoffice.wordperfect10, alt.windows7.general

    Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> on Sun, 01 Mar 2020 06:25:01 +0200
    typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:33:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
    <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

    And they still work, so I now have an antique laptop for general
    note taking in the Study (which is generally "off-line" and not the >>computer office.)
    I do not know if this is a good thing or not.

    But idf you want to transfer your notes to somewhere else?

    Does it have a USB port, or any other way of communicating with other >computers?

    It has a USB port, a 3.5 floppy drive, and I think a network port.
    (or a dial up modem jack.

    Right now, it is sitting under the desk. While I have the install disks for WP 6.0, one of them has a bad sector, and so it does not
    install.
    There is an element of "Okay, that doesn't work, but I can work
    around it, oh, that needs a fix so that it can be worked around",
    eventually "you wind up with everybody dead, the castle on fire, and
    I've lost my hat."
    And any plan where you lose your hat?
    "... Is a bad plan."
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Wed May 6 13:22:47 2020
    On 2/28/2020 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> on Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:27:50 -0600 typed
    in alt.comp.os.windows-xp the following:
    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:33:32 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.

    No problem.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lppu5k3otvouin/Usbsupp.exe?dl=1

    Thanks. The problem is that the desktop box doesn't have a floppy drive, and until I can get the USB drives loaded, I can't use the
    flash drives to transfer files.
    Catch-22.



    I was lucky enough to score a couple of USB floppy drives at thrift
    shops years ago, so I never have that problem.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 6 22:23:45 2020
    Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> on Wed, 6 May 2020 13:22:47 -0700 typed in alt.comp.os.windows-xp the following:
    On 2/28/2020 10:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> on Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:27:50 -0600 typed
    in alt.comp.os.windows-xp the following:
    On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:33:32 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote:

    But first, I'll have to see about getting "correct" USB drivers.

    No problem.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lppu5k3otvouin/Usbsupp.exe?dl=1

    Thanks. The problem is that the desktop box doesn't have a floppy
    drive, and until I can get the USB drives loaded, I can't use the
    flash drives to transfer files.
    Catch-22.



    I was lucky enough to score a couple of USB floppy drives at thrift
    shops years ago, so I never have that problem.

    Cool. I just found the box of old computer stuff, including some "brand new" 3.5 floppies.

    --
    pyotr filipivich
    Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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