• Re: Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to Jordee on Mon Dec 13 06:44:28 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?


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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 13 05:53:21 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

    Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with Microsoft.)

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Tue Dec 14 09:16:22 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
    <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

    Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with >Microsoft.)

    I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.


    --
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    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Tue Dec 14 11:04:31 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 09:16:22 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

    Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with >>Microsoft.)

    I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.

    To any XP user, 'safe' is a foreign country.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 14 12:51:09 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 at 09:16:22, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:53:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:44:28, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

    Or microsoft.public.windowsxp.general? (Which now has nothing to do with >>Microsoft.)

    I suppose one should subscribe to both, just to be on the safe side.


    Nothing to lose. There are - or have been - others; my list (which
    includes, I think, ones going back to '95 or before) includes 0.verison.windowsxp, alt.binaries.cd.images.windows.xp, alt.binaries.warez.winxp, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.nl.is.windows-xp
    and '.xp, alt.os.windows-xp (and various with that plus "for..." various categories of people!), alt.os.windows.xp, alt.os.windowsxp,alt.pl.comp.os.windowsxp, alt.windows-xp,
    fj.os.ms-windows.xp, free.it.comp.os.win.winxp, free.it.os.win.winxp, it.comp.os.win.xp, lots of microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.*, microsoft.public.dk.windowsxp, four microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.*, microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp and five .*, similar (varying numbers)
    with .jp., .nl. instead of .fr., microsoft.public.windowsxp and many .* (probably about 100 of those), then with .za., mk.comp.os.windowsxp, and probably others (my list has 825 with xp in, but that includes explorer
    and other words).

    Some of these probably only ever existed briefly (especially the "for
    ..." ones).

    The above m.p.w.general seems to be about as active as one might expect
    XP to be these days (i. e. quiet, but not dead); I don't think I've ever subscribed to any of the others.
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    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer (1804-1864)

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  • From RecentlyOrLately@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 21 06:55:52 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    is the popular one.

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to RecentlyOrLately on Tue Dec 21 16:02:39 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:

    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    is the popular one.

    For some weird definition of 'popular'.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to mechanic on Wed Dec 22 18:08:50 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:

    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    is the popular one.

    For some weird definition of 'popular'.

    But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
    you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.inv on Wed Dec 22 20:21:47 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    In alt.windows7.general Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:

    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    is the popular one.

    For some weird definition of 'popular'.

    But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that
    you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.

    But they're mostly quiet compared to W7 and W10. :P
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Wed Dec 22 21:24:14 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On 12/22/2021 1:08 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 21/12/2021 16:02, mechanic wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:55:52 -0800, RecentlyOrLately wrote:

    microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    is the popular one.

    For some weird definition of 'popular'.

    But there are so many other microsoft.public.windowsxp.* groups that you'd need to join just to make sure you didn't miss anything.


    In rough round numbers, there used to be 3000 microsoft.* groups
    in a private hierarchy.

    After the great cleanup, this was reduced to 2000. Some
    of the groups had not had posts for around 2 years or so,

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
    accept these and the groups would disappear.

    Because Microsoft did not do the right things, the groups languish
    at the favor of the individual administrators. Administrators still
    sweep house once in a while, and say, those alt.* groups created could
    be removed if the traffic isn't there.

    Not even all the vanity alt groups were removed. Although at one time,
    perhaps a hundred thousand groups that had been created by users, needed
    to be removed. Not all of them disappeared, just most of them.

    A given group exists, unless you give someone an incentive to remove it.

    Paul

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Dec 23 15:40:11 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
    accept these and the groups would disappear.

    And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to mechanic on Thu Dec 23 19:25:13 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply accept these and the groups would disappear.

    And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

    Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
    alt and microsoft crap! :-)

    comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS. comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines. comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

    I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
    but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
    some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to this@ddress.is.invalid on Thu Dec 23 18:51:23 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    In alt.windows7.general Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply accept these and the groups would disappear.

    And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

    Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
    alt and microsoft crap! :-)

    comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS. comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines. comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

    I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
    but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
    some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

    Same for apple2 newsgroups. Newsgroups have many OLD stuff. Not many for
    newer stuff. Sure, they have Windows 11 on SOME usenet servers.
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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Fri Dec 24 18:32:46 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On 23 Dec 2021 19:25:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
    accept these and the groups would disappear.

    And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

    Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that
    alt and microsoft crap! :-)

    comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS. comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines. comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

    I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
    but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also
    some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

    Think they'd be any good on DosBox + OpenGEM systems?

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to mechanic on Fri Dec 24 18:52:01 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
    On 23 Dec 2021 19:25:13 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

    After this, Microsoft closed their own hierarchy, without sending
    signed rmgroup() commands. For many administrators, they would simply
    accept these and the groups would disappear.

    And now we're stuck without a DOS5 group!

    Nope, we're not! There are even Real Big8 (TM) groups, instead of that alt and microsoft crap! :-)

    comp.os.msdos.apps Discussion of applications that run under MS-DOS. comp.os.msdos.misc Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines. comp.os.msdos.programmer Programming MS-DOS machines.

    I'm subscribed to .apps and .misc. There's of course little activity,
    but once in a while there still are (on topic) posts. And there are also some more comp.os.msdos.* groups.

    Think they'd be any good on DosBox + OpenGEM systems?

    I don't know. Some people were rather strict about the charter and
    would for example frown upon questions about running things in a Command
    Prompt window on Windows, but others were/are way more lax and welcome
    most anything. So just try and see.

    FWIW, I had never heard about OpenGEM before your post, so I learned somethin! :-).

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sat Dec 25 15:25:24 2021
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

    On 24 Dec 2021 18:52:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    FWIW, I had never heard about OpenGEM before your post, so I learned somethin! :-).

    It was featured in a recent Lunduke Journal post, which prompted me
    to try it (GEM) again, it was a staple in the early days before
    Win3.1

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  • From Mike Garcia@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 16:11:26 2022
    XPost: alt.windows7.general

    In article <9rjdrg5622ctcrroj9m7116tcddlt1j3pq@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...

    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:52:16 -0800, Jordee <Jordee@Noplace.com> wrote:

    What is happening with Windows XP Newsgroup ?

    Seamonkey stopped getting new posts.

    I updated Seamonkey.
    I unsubscribed and then tried to subscribe the XP newsgroup but no joy.

    Do you mean alt.comp.os.wwindows-xp?

    I used to use seamonkey also, but found the spam really bad, I moved to MicroPlanet Gravity

    --

    mgarcia.org

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