• Is it normal for connected HDMI to be the primary display instead t

    From Paul@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jun 12 17:45:41 2021
    XPost: alt.comp.hardware.homebuild, alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned

    Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    Is it normal for connected HDMI to be the primary display instead the connected VGA? I have both HDMI (HDTV) and VGA (monitor) connected to my
    new 64-bit W10 Pro PC (Intel Core i5-10400 Comet Lake 2.9GHz 6-Core LGA
    1200 CPU (includes Intel UHD 630 GPU), ASRock H510M-HDV/M.2 Intel LGA
    1200 microATX motherboard, MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti DirectX 11.2 N750TI-2GD5/OC (2 GB of VRAM), etc.). It didn't matter if I use the
    onboard video or the video card. I want my VGA (monitor) to be my
    primary screen and my HDTV to be the secondary. Even UEFI stuff shows on
    my HDTV (HDMI). Nothing on my monitor (VGA)! I remember the old PCs used
    to show same stuff on both displays during old BIOS and CMOS!

    Also, I'm using an old OmniCube KVM (PS2+VGA) from Y2K for my VGA
    monitor. W10 says my monitor is #2 (VGA) while HDTV (HDMI) is #1. How
    can I tell the motherboard to use my monitor as the first display (VGA) instead of my HDTV (HDMI)?

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    I made a pronouncement about a year ago.

    I said it "was The Year of the Graphics Adapter".

    To use a VGA port, you *do not* use the VGA port.
    You use the HDMI port, then connect a HDMI to VGA
    adapter to it.

    This also affects which motherboard you buy. You
    want a motherboard with all HDMI adapters or all
    DisplayPort adapters, so no matter how egregeously
    bad the startup behavior is, an HDMI to VGA or
    a DP to VGA solves the problem.

    I have a VGA monitor on the Test Machine. I own
    several of each, HDMI to VGA and DP to VGA. When
    the machine did the same thing yours id doing
    (Ignoring the users chosen monitor), I simply
    find which port is the primary on the computer
    end, then stuff an adapter in it, to convert
    to the standard *I* want.

    That's how upside-down the world is in the year 2021.

    I don't see any setting in the user manual to do otherwise.

    The "primary adapter" selector, chooses between the chipset GPU
    and the card GPU you have plugged in. It's not a connector
    choice exactly.

    If the Intel side of this equation is not giving you
    what you want, plug in a PCIe graphics, set the BIOS
    "primary display adapter" to PCIe, and it
    will have some (stoopid) choice for primary monitor connector,
    and you can use adapters to get what you need. When you
    use an HDMI to VGA adapter, the computer end thinks
    it is HDMI and does not suspect a thing.

    My stinkin card has at least three DP, but the one HDMI
    is the primary, and guess what ? My adapter of choice is
    an HDMI to VGA. The computer has never switched away from
    that on me, since I started using that choice instead of
    the DP to VGA one.

    Paul

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Jun 12 18:13:06 2021
    XPost: alt.comp.hardware.homebuild, alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned

    In alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    ...
    I made a pronouncement about a year ago.

    I said it "was The Year of the Graphics Adapter".

    Argh. Also, it was a bad year for everyone due to the panademic. :(


    To use a VGA port, you *do not* use the VGA port.
    You use the HDMI port, then connect a HDMI to VGA
    adapter to it.

    I only have one HDMI port per video. I can't use both onboard and video
    card at the same time.


    This also affects which motherboard you buy. You want a motherboard
    with all HDMI adapters or all DisplayPort adapters, so no matter how egregeously bad the startup behavior is, an HDMI to VGA or a DP to VGA
    solves the problem.

    Both of my videos have HDMI, VGA, and DVI.


    I have a VGA monitor on the Test Machine. I own
    several of each, HDMI to VGA and DP to VGA. When
    the machine did the same thing yours id doing
    (Ignoring the users chosen monitor), I simply
    find which port is the primary on the computer
    end, then stuff an adapter in it, to convert
    to the standard *I* want.

    That's how upside-down the world is in the year 2021.

    2020 was worse.


    I don't see any setting in the user manual to do otherwise.

    Same. :(


    The "primary adapter" selector, chooses between the chipset GPU
    and the card GPU you have plugged in. It's not a connector
    choice exactly.

    Yep! https://ibb.co/album/NdbMCD (Samsung HDTV[HDMI] vs. ASUS
    monitor[VGA with HDMI cable discconnected]).


    If the Intel side of this equation is not giving you
    what you want, plug in a PCIe graphics, set the BIOS
    "primary display adapter" to PCIe, and it
    will have some (stoopid) choice for primary monitor connector,
    and you can use adapters to get what you need. When you
    use an HDMI to VGA adapter, the computer end thinks
    it is HDMI and does not suspect a thing.

    [sighs]


    My stinkin card has at least three DP, but the one HDMI
    is the primary, and guess what ? My adapter of choice is
    an HDMI to VGA. The computer has never switched away from
    that on me, since I started using that choice instead of
    the DP to VGA one.

    Three? Wow. I haven't gotten any with DisplayPorts. Well, except MacBook
    Pros. Man, I really miss the old days!
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jun 12 21:17:38 2021
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    Ant wrote:

    Three? Wow. I haven't gotten any with DisplayPorts. Well, except MacBook Pros. Man, I really miss the old days!

    I think you just have got unlucky on cards/monitor choices.

    Who would have thought you'd have to sit around all day
    in the year 2021, doing a flow chart for videocard/monitor
    picking ?

    As a luddite, mine are still VGA. Plus a handful of HDMI to VGA
    and DP to VGA adapters (both of which, run off the +5V on
    the vid output connector of the computer). The VGA connector
    on the PC, is the only vid connector where the power pin was
    removed as if it was a diseased tooth :-) At one time (older kit),
    the pin was on there, but they removed it. Presumably, because
    it was getting shorted out and they were too lazy to install a
    Polyfuse in the path.

    Paul

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