I am looking to put together a new computer rig so I can play
WITCHER 3 and Fallout 4. It is sad to have to build a new system to
play some games but I don't smoke, drink or do drugs so this is my one
vice. But I am starting to think that it would be cheaper to take up drinking...
Anyways, I am now hopelessly lost when it comes to comparing GPU and
trying to see with one is better. Like the CPU's the number of the
chip no longer tells you which one is faster. How I long for the old
days of knowing that Pentium was faster then a 486 which was faster
then a 386 which was faster then a 286, which was faster then an 8088
which was faster then an 8085.....8080. I tried to use http://cpuboss.com/compare-cpus to see which GPU was faster but it
seemed it never had the exact GPU I was looking for. I was trying to
see if GPU X ZZ Edition with 4 gigs ram was faster then GPU Y with 4
gigs ram but I could only find GPU X with 4 gigs (NO ZZ Edition) and
GPU Y with only 1 gig ram. This was in no way helpful in trying to
decide what to buy.
The site www.systemrequirementslab.com AKA "CAN YOU RUN IT" was very
helpful BUT only for what I had in my system already. I was looking
to upgrade to a GPU that could play those games but I couldn't tell
CAN YOU RUN IT "Hey, if I bought GPU X ZZ EDITION with 4 GIGS of ram,
could I run those games I want so badly to play?" No, it only looks
at what you have....that or I missed where one could type what you
wanted to evaluate. It would be nice if you could input (once it
evaluated your system) the changes you wanted to make and let it tell
you if they would make it so you could play those games with those
changes. I even tried to write the web site to make a suggestion
but it seems like most web sites are reluctant to give out their email addresses or even offer an online page for you to comment or GOD
FORBID, ask a question. You have a question? Look through the
other 40,000 questions posted by other users (we cannot tell you how
they posted them) and see if your question is answered in there. If
you can't find your question answered, look again, come on, with
40,000 comments you question was surely answered!!"

So, if someone could help me out....if you know of a site where you
could input the card and the site will tell you if you can play the
game or not, and if you have a good web site that compares GPU, OR,
just shows where either YOUR GPU or ONE YOU INPUT would be on the
graph of the Best to the Worst GPU's.

Sorry for the rant and I really would appreciate suggestions if you
have one or many. I just really makes me angry when my computer is
rated fairly high ( In my opinion) by Can U Play It? and the answer is
No. No I can't play it. The following is my rating:
Your Computer rank Rank
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10GHz 83rd Percentile


GPU: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series 73rd percentile
I would consider those ranks to be pretty good. I would think with
those ranks I could play most games for another 2 or 3 years. NOT
the cutting edge games, but most of the other games. I blow the hell
out of SKYRIM and Fallout New Vegas with the settings cranked to the
MAX. No problems. But I cannot even play Fallout 4 or Wither 3.
Ok. Sorry. I am repeating myself. Web site suggestions? Any
suggestions? I plan to order a GTX 970 with 4 GIGS or ram but I
don't know if that will run the games or not. Can U run it does
suggest some cards that will play the games but recommended is like a
$1600 TITAN. And the MINIMUM card will let you play the game but
probably ONLY JUST. I need something that is more an average of
those extremes.
Thanks for listening, please don't kill filter me.
D.P

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noemailplease wrote:

I am looking to put together a new computer rig so I can play
WITCHER 3 and Fallout 4. It is sad to have to build a new system to
play some games but I don't smoke, drink or do drugs so this is my one
vice. But I am starting to think that it would be cheaper to take up drinking...
Anyways, I am now hopelessly lost when it comes to comparing GPU and
trying to see with one is better. Like the CPU's the number of the
chip no longer tells you which one is faster. How I long for the old
days of knowing that Pentium was faster then a 486 which was faster
then a 386 which was faster then a 286, which was faster then an 8088
which was faster then an 8085.....8080. I tried to use http://cpuboss.com/compare-cpus to see which GPU was faster but it
seemed it never had the exact GPU I was looking for. I was trying to
see if GPU X ZZ Edition with 4 gigs ram was faster then GPU Y with 4
gigs ram but I could only find GPU X with 4 gigs (NO ZZ Edition) and
GPU Y with only 1 gig ram. This was in no way helpful in trying to
decide what to buy.
The site www.systemrequirementslab.com AKA "CAN YOU RUN IT" was very
helpful BUT only for what I had in my system already. I was looking
to upgrade to a GPU that could play those games but I couldn't tell
CAN YOU RUN IT "Hey, if I bought GPU X ZZ EDITION with 4 GIGS of ram,
could I run those games I want so badly to play?" No, it only looks
at what you have....that or I missed where one could type what you
wanted to evaluate. It would be nice if you could input (once it
evaluated your system) the changes you wanted to make and let it tell
you if they would make it so you could play those games with those
changes. I even tried to write the web site to make a suggestion
but it seems like most web sites are reluctant to give out their email addresses or even offer an online page for you to comment or GOD
FORBID, ask a question. You have a question? Look through the
other 40,000 questions posted by other users (we cannot tell you how
they posted them) and see if your question is answered in there. If
you can't find your question answered, look again, come on, with
40,000 comments you question was surely answered!!"

So, if someone could help me out....if you know of a site where you
could input the card and the site will tell you if you can play the
game or not, and if you have a good web site that compares GPU, OR,
just shows where either YOUR GPU or ONE YOU INPUT would be on the
graph of the Best to the Worst GPU's.

Sorry for the rant and I really would appreciate suggestions if you
have one or many. I just really makes me angry when my computer is
rated fairly high ( In my opinion) by Can U Play It? and the answer is
No. No I can't play it. The following is my rating:
Your Computer rank Rank
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10GHz 83rd Percentile

GPU: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series 73rd percentile
I would consider those ranks to be pretty good. I would think with
those ranks I could play most games for another 2 or 3 years. NOT
the cutting edge games, but most of the other games. I blow the hell
out of SKYRIM and Fallout New Vegas with the settings cranked to the
MAX. No problems. But I cannot even play Fallout 4 or Wither 3.
Ok. Sorry. I am repeating myself. Web site suggestions? Any
suggestions? I plan to order a GTX 970 with 4 GIGS or ram but I
don't know if that will run the games or not. Can U run it does
suggest some cards that will play the games but recommended is like a
$1600 TITAN. And the MINIMUM card will let you play the game but
probably ONLY JUST. I need something that is more an average of
those extremes.
Thanks for listening, please don't kill filter me.
D.P

For component level rating...

1) Start with the "minimum" and "recommended" CPU and GPU
on the software provider page.
2) Use these two sites, to get "passmark equivalent" values
for the hardware. (These pages are slow to load, as the
tables are pretty big.)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

3) Shop for hardware that falls between the minimum and
recommended values.

This is only an approximate method, as some games
"run better" with ATI or "run better" with NVidia,
and the game is optimized for one architecture
more than the other. Using Passmarks doesn't
take that aspect into account, and you would search
for game reviews, to see how much effect the card
brand has on the game play results.

This topic came up before Christmas,

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3Cn4pivc%24mqc%241%40news.mixmin.net%3E

when a poster wanted to know what it would take to
run Fallout 4 for some kids Christmas present. And
so those pages came up as a means of translating
the provided minimum values, into something you could buy.

Paul

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