• restarting without update installation

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 12 11:21:40 2019
    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
    time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
    because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

    But 10 minutes afte I started using it, I got that same question, when
    do I want to install updates, now, set a time, or later.

    How did it manager to restart last night without installing them? Is
    that because some essential part of installation occurs during normal
    shutdown and I must have had a crash? Or could it be that it never
    did restart, but somehow all the programs closed?

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 12 10:44:56 2019
    On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
    time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
    because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

    Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
    to that effect) if it was a crash.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Jackson on Tue Feb 12 13:34:32 2019
    In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
    Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
    time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
    because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

    Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
    to that effect) if it was a crash.

    I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

    There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the
    programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

    How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


    How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
    do it when it restarts?


    I did see an hour before I stopped using it, but I don't see how this
    would matter:

    Windows Update started downloading an update.

    Installation Started: Windows has started installing the following
    update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

    Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
    update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

    For - EventData
    updateTitle 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect
    updateGuid {0630FB26-CB37-4199-9A75-E22FBE509841}
    updateRevisionNumber 1
    serviceGuid {855E8A7C-ECB4-4CA3-B045-1DFA50104289}

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Feb 12 16:55:26 2019
    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
    Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
    time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
    because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.
    Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
    to that effect) if it was a crash.

    I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

    There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

    How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


    How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
    do it when it restarts?


    I did see an hour before I stopped using it, but I don't see how this
    would matter:

    Windows Update started downloading an update.

    Installation Started: Windows has started installing the following
    update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

    Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
    update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

    For - EventData
    updateTitle 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect
    updateGuid {0630FB26-CB37-4199-9A75-E22FBE509841}
    updateRevisionNumber 1
    serviceGuid {855E8A7C-ECB4-4CA3-B045-1DFA50104289}


    It can put an entry in Task Scheduler, to wake itself during the
    "non-busy" period you set in your Active Hours. It's also dumb
    enough to not handle it properly. I.e. You could actually install an
    update, and it would leave the Task Scheduler entry, then when it
    awakes, it says "why am I awake again" ? Because there is no
    work to do, so a few minutes later it goes back to sleep.

    Because it just does a reboot after waking from sleep
    (to make the Update finish installing), and of course it
    kills all your running programs...

    Are you beginning to see who is driving this bus ?

    It ain't you.

    *******

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/apps-in-windows-10

    Microsoft.OneConnect Paid Wi-Fi & Cellular Uninstall through UI? = No

    But there are articles about removal. I guess you would
    class that as "Store Promotional" as if you were to connect
    to a paid provider, MS would probably get compensated or
    something. I tried Googling the term and the word
    "Review" and didn't see any examples of its usage.

    Paul

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 12 16:58:34 2019
    On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:34:32 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
    Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this >>>time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have, >>>because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

    Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
    to that effect) if it was a crash.

    I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

    There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the >programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

    How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


    How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
    do it when it restarts?

    Yes, during restart. Here's an example from one of my PCs from just this morning:

    Level: Critical
    Source: Kernel-Power
    Event ID: 41
    Task category: 63
    Message: "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first.
    This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or
    lost power unexpectedly."

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Feb 13 03:21:47 2019
    It gives you a delayed time you can set if you ignore it it will force
    update and reboot after a certain amount hours have passed does it with
    windows 7 as well

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    "micky" <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:bcs56e10foaf9a3281tkk4c42t2f180fno@4ax.com...
    I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
    time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

    This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
    because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

    But 10 minutes afte I started using it, I got that same question, when
    do I want to install updates, now, set a time, or later.

    How did it manager to restart last night without installing them? Is
    that because some essential part of installation occurs during normal shutdown and I must have had a crash? Or could it be that it never
    did restart, but somehow all the programs closed?

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