• .bbs tld?

    From Divarin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 12 13:53:27 2021
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
    ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Divarin on Tue Oct 12 14:06:42 2021
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    On 10/12/21 11:53 AM, Divarin wrote:
    Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
    ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

    Cost.

    The last I heard, registering a new top level domain was about a quarter
    of a million dollars start up and about 100 thousand dollars a year ongoing.

    I suspect that there isn't enough demand to cover that cost.

    That also completely elides the technical complications and requirement.



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  • From 711 Spooky Mart@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Thu Oct 21 23:05:40 2021
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    On 10/12/21 3:06 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 10/12/21 11:53 AM, Divarin wrote:
    Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
    ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

    Cost.

    The last I heard, registering a new top level domain was about a quarter
    of a million dollars start up and about 100 thousand dollars a year
    ongoing.

    I suspect that there isn't enough demand to cover that cost.

    That also completely elides the technical complications and requirement.

    I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.

    The TLD racket is a monumental grift. It's just a entry in a database.
    We don't even need registrars. This is just part of the grift for the military-industrial complex to maintain censorship power over the big
    world network.

    DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect the big players that have already sewed up the market.

    The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up the
    hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 23:57:53 2021
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    On 10/21/21 10:05 PM, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
    I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.

    :-)

    The TLD racket is a monumental grift.

    I disagree.

    It's just a entry in a database.

    Some what yes, and more so no.

    It's not /just/ an entry in a database. It's a database. It's a geographically distributed and resilient database that merges with
    multiple counter parts run by disparate entities in many different
    countries.

    Calling it /just/ an entry in a database is about like calling the (inter)national electric grid /just/ wires in the wall.

    We don't even need registrars.

    How pray tell will we deal with someone owning (in so much as you can
    own something you rent and thus occupy) something while preventing
    others from squatting on your ... asset?

    There has to be some organization system to apply some order to what
    would otherwise become chaos. Registrars and registries are what create
    the order out of the chaos.

    The technical requirements for operating a TLD almost demand a medium to
    large company to pay for. It's so far from an old PC that you run some software on that it's not even funny.

    This is just part of the grift for the military-industrial complex
    to maintain censorship power over the big world network.

    Acquiring, operating, securing that technical infrastructure costs
    money. Hence why it costs so much the higher up the food chain you go.

    It's no /just/ grift. There is true reasoning behind much of it. Sure,
    there are some that will extort as much money as they can. But you
    don't have to do business with them.

    DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect the
    big players that have already sewed up the market.

    I disagree. I routinely use DNS technology that was developed or
    enhanced within the last 5-15 years.

    The big players that are being protected, meaning holding technology advancement back, aren't the DNS operators. It's other big companies
    that are not adopting new technology that are holding the DNS industry back.

    The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up the
    hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.

    The technologists are standing on the top of the hill having invented
    the wagon, built the wagon, loaded as many slow movers into it as
    possible, and pushed it up the hill, who are now looking back at the
    rest of the industry wondering why they aren't following suit.

    Try leading by example.

    Try using an alternate naming root.

    Do that for a few years and see what you think.



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  • From Tedward@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 5 17:04:05 2023
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:57:53 -0600
    Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

    You should really have a look at ENS. https://ens.domains/

    It pokes holes in pretty much all your arguments about the need for a centralized registrar.

    On 10/21/21 10:05 PM, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
    I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.

    :-)

    The TLD racket is a monumental grift.

    I disagree.

    It's just a entry in a database.

    Some what yes, and more so no.

    It's not /just/ an entry in a database. It's a database. It's a geographically distributed and resilient database that merges with
    multiple counter parts run by disparate entities in many different
    countries.

    Calling it /just/ an entry in a database is about like calling the (inter)national electric grid /just/ wires in the wall.

    We don't even need registrars.

    How pray tell will we deal with someone owning (in so much as you can
    own something you rent and thus occupy) something while preventing
    others from squatting on your ... asset?

    There has to be some organization system to apply some order to what
    would otherwise become chaos. Registrars and registries are what
    create the order out of the chaos.

    The technical requirements for operating a TLD almost demand a medium
    to large company to pay for. It's so far from an old PC that you run
    some software on that it's not even funny.

    This is just part of the grift for the military-industrial complex
    to maintain censorship power over the big world network.

    Acquiring, operating, securing that technical infrastructure costs
    money. Hence why it costs so much the higher up the food chain you
    go.

    It's no /just/ grift. There is true reasoning behind much of it.
    Sure, there are some that will extort as much money as they can. But
    you don't have to do business with them.

    DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect
    the big players that have already sewed up the market.

    I disagree. I routinely use DNS technology that was developed or
    enhanced within the last 5-15 years.

    The big players that are being protected, meaning holding technology advancement back, aren't the DNS operators. It's other big companies
    that are not adopting new technology that are holding the DNS
    industry back.

    The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up
    the hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.

    The technologists are standing on the top of the hill having invented
    the wagon, built the wagon, loaded as many slow movers into it as
    possible, and pushed it up the hill, who are now looking back at the
    rest of the industry wondering why they aren't following suit.

    Try leading by example.

    Try using an alternate naming root.

    Do that for a few years and see what you think.




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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to donotreply.Divarin@mutinybbs.com on Sat Feb 3 21:49:57 2024
    XPost: comp.bbs.misc

    On Oct 12, 2021 at 12:53:27 PM EDT, "Divarin" <donotreply.Divarin@mutinybbs.com> wrote:

    Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
    ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

    It's pretty fucking GAY is what it is....!!!!

    www.gtvflyers.com

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  • From Marc Lewis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 20:22:22 2024
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    Hello All.

    <On 04Jan2024 10:31 kyonshi wrote a message to All regarding Re: .bbs tld? >


    On 10/12/2021 7:53 PM, Divarin wrote:
    Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
    ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!


    https://www.opennic.org/ does have in fact a .bbs top level domain,
    but to use it people have to modify their DNS settings.

    That is really interesting to know. I'm going to have to contact my domain provider to add that TLD to my already existing ones.

    Thanks for the info!

    Best regards,
    Marc

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