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On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 14:02:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 22/06/2019 07.02, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 6/21/19 2:01 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

IIRC did wvdial just made it easy to dial via ppp. I am bold and say
if you wanted you could even establish a DSL connection with it.

<https://linux.die.net/man/1/wvdial>

$ReadingList++

I never used FIDO for news.

I think FidoNet echos had (still have) their own ecosystem with
different content, but similar in nature to Usenet newsgroups.

Correct. Except that most were moderated. The moderator posted the rules >(like what charset to use), and could expel misbehavers. There was a
longish document with Fidonet rules. No, two docs, one generic, one for
the echoareas. The structure was hierarchical, with elected or appointed >bosses. Routes had to be defined according to resources, schedules >negotiated... All that was not automatic.

When Usenet newsgroups first started being gated to Fidonet, many
usenet users feared that letting the Fidonet rabble in would mean the
end of Usenet. Now Usenet is full of spammers, trolls and fanatics and
only about one article in 20 is worth reading, and I long for the days
of Fidonet and the interesting conversations.


--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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On 25/06/2019 07.37, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 14:02:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 22/06/2019 07.02, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 6/21/19 2:01 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

IIRC did wvdial just made it easy to dial via ppp. I am bold and say
if you wanted you could even establish a DSL connection with it.

<https://linux.die.net/man/1/wvdial>

$ReadingList++

I never used FIDO for news.

I think FidoNet echos had (still have) their own ecosystem with
different content, but similar in nature to Usenet newsgroups.

Correct. Except that most were moderated. The moderator posted the rules
(like what charset to use), and could expel misbehavers. There was a
longish document with Fidonet rules. No, two docs, one generic, one for
the echoareas. The structure was hierarchical, with elected or appointed
bosses. Routes had to be defined according to resources, schedules
negotiated... All that was not automatic.

When Usenet newsgroups first started being gated to Fidonet, many
usenet users feared that letting the Fidonet rabble in would mean the
end of Usenet. Now Usenet is full of spammers, trolls and fanatics and
only about one article in 20 is worth reading, and I long for the days
of Fidonet and the interesting conversations.

Yes.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 25/06/2019 15:49, Carlos E.R. wrote:

When Usenet newsgroups first started being gated to Fidonet, many
usenet users feared that letting the Fidonet rabble in would mean the
end of Usenet. Now Usenet is full of spammers, trolls and fanatics and
only about one article in 20 is worth reading, and I long for the days
of Fidonet and the interesting conversations.

Wasnt it AOL that marked the end of Usenet as it guarnateed a series of
noobs all the time - 'eternal september'

Then they invented faeces book.

Yes

--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

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Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes:

When Usenet newsgroups first started being gated to Fidonet, many
usenet users feared that letting the Fidonet rabble in would mean the
end of Usenet. Now Usenet is full of spammers, trolls and fanatics and
only about one article in 20 is worth reading, and I long for the days
of Fidonet and the interesting conversations.

I remember seeing some of those abuses on FIDO, RIME, and some of the other echo networks back then too.

There was one group of people that advocated Antivirus software, with
one group aligning behind one brand and another group championing
another brand. Two particularly strident ones were Zvi Netiv and Rod
Fewster, IIRC. I think they even carried their battles with them from
the BBS world to Usenet. (Nowadays they'd probably be the stars of some
reality TV show.)

The sad thing was that I think both of them had knowledge they could
have shared and that people would have learned from, but they were so
busy fighting that anyone with any sense avoided both of them and the
products they argued about.

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On 25 Jun 2019 at 07:37a, Steve Hayes pondered and said...

When Usenet newsgroups first started being gated to Fidonet, many
usenet users feared that letting the Fidonet rabble in would mean the
end of Usenet. Now Usenet is full of spammers, trolls and fanatics and only about one article in 20 is worth reading, and I long for the days
of Fidonet and the interesting conversations.

There are some quite good conversations still happening in Fido as well as othernets such as fsxNet... you may want to check those out?

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