Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone has installed a fan into the C64 bread case.. if so where? I'd think that just a small fan would do the trick. I know the suggestion is to add heat sinks but I thought about taking it one step
further to ensure proper air flow. Perhaps wire it to a switch maybe. I think the powersupply should be able to handle an extra 5v. Thoughts?

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Hi Darkman!

11 Sep 2021 14:03, from Darkman Almighty -> All:

Just wondering if anyone has installed a fan into the C64 bread case..

No, and I absolutely see 0 need for it.
Absolutely pointless from my point of view!

if so where? I'd think that just a small fan would do the trick.

Even no fan will do the trick.
If you are VERY, VERY anxious you can put a small heatsink on some chips.
That is also not really needed, but if iz makes you feel better then it at least does not make noise ;)

I know the suggestion is to add heat sinks

Depends on who you ask.
Normally not really needed.
If you have a breadbin it makes slightly more sense ...

but I thought about taking it one step further to ensure proper air
flow.

But WHY would you need additional airflow?

Perhaps wire it to a switch maybe. I think the powersupply should be
able to handle an extra 5v. Thoughts?

power supply should be able to handle it.

CU, Ricsi

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On 11 Sep 2021, Richard Menedetter said the following...

11 Sep 2021 14:03, from Darkman Almighty -> All:

Just wondering if anyone has installed a fan into the C64 bread case.

No, and I absolutely see 0 need for it.
Absolutely pointless from my point of view!

Really. I think the thought is because the chips were made of poor material and well, heat would affect the operation and longevity. Heat sinks should do the trick though.

If you have a breadbin it makes slightly more sense ...

yes it is a breadbin.. I will look at some decent paste and heatsinks then.

CU, Ricsi
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Thanks for the reply. Best regards,
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Hi Darkman!

12 Sep 2021 17:28, from Darkman Almighty -> Richard Menedetter:

Just wondering if anyone has installed a fan into the C64

bread case. No, and I absolutely see 0 need for it. Absolutely
pointless from my point of view!

Really. I think the thought is because the chips were made of poor material and well, heat would affect the operation and longevity.
Heat sinks should do the trick though.

Very early PLAs and VIC chips (from early breadbins) have some heat deterioration issues that I heard from.

*I* did not hear from many issues with later devices.
But adding heatsinks to PLA and VIC and maybe others is a cheap way to reassure you. (without causing noise)

To be honest you should check your power supply.
I have heared much more often from failing power supplies that ruin you computer, then from chips that overheat.

Especially the wedge shaped ones from breadbins.
There are some more costly alternatives.

Or the way that I went.
Go for an ultimate64.
It is maybe not the purist choice and definitely not cheap, but for me worth its weight in gold!
(+ you can use a standard 9V supply and have HDMI and USB ;)
It is basically an FPGA mainboard replacement.

CU, Ricsi

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Very early PLAs and VIC chips (from early breadbins) have some heat deterioration issues that I heard from.

Yes I've heard that. I wouldn't want the chips to go out since they are hard
to find items. This is actually why I would look at additional cooling strategies.

*I* did not hear from many issues with later devices.
But adding heatsinks to PLA and VIC and maybe others is a cheap way to reassure

Right.

To be honest you should check your power supply.
I have heared much more often from failing power supplies that ruin you computer, then from chips that overheat.

Actually, I did replace the power supply, its one of those new ones which
uses a fraction of the parts and produces no heat. I feel better as yeah,
those older ps could just fail and take out the chips.

Or the way that I went.
Go for an ultimate64.
It is maybe not the purist choice and definitely not cheap, but for me worth its weight in gold!
(+ you can use a standard 9V supply and have HDMI and USB ;)
It is basically an FPGA mainboard replacement.

Oh nice, yeah I wanted order one of those. Limited stock and all. I use an SD2IC but the ultimate.. well, would be the ultimate ;) I'll ask Santa I think..

Cheers,
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