• Does anyone buy CDs any more?

    From Nelgin@80:774/13 to RetroNet.RTN_BUY_SELL on Mon Apr 19 04:57:16 2021
    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell so I can find my new vinyl collection. Willing to ship world wide and have a wide assortment. A lot of religious, contemporary, classical, movie/musicals, etc. A few are sealed, one or two signed by the artist (not major tho unfortunately), etc.

    I have a partial list of over 1000 you can view at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dML9HoSRoA-zv-1-jK5_ig4TJd9PgJnzQKc2kUfbIQc/edit?usp=sharing

    Will ship anywhere there is no US export ban (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria).

    PalPal only. Local pickup available in the Dallas, Texas area.

    Prices range from $1-5 usually depending on the CD.
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  • From NuSkooler@80:774/20 to Nelgin on Mon Apr 19 12:35:57 2021

    On Monday, April 19th Nelgin said...
    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell

    If you haven't set it up already, I suggest Discogs for this type of thing.




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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to NuSkooler on Tue Apr 20 12:07:15 2021
    NuSkooler wrote:

    On Monday, April 19th Nelgin said...
    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell

    If you haven't set it up already, I suggest Discogs for this type of thing.

    Except Discogs like to take a nice slice off the top. 8% with a minimum of
    10c. If you're only selling for $1 then that's 10% they take out.
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Fri Jul 30 00:25:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Monday 19.04.21 - 04:57, Nelgin wrote to RetroNet.RTN_BUY_SELL:

    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell so I can find my new vinyl collection. Willing to ship world wide and have a wide assortment...

    I have a partial list of over 1000 you can view at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dML9HoSRoA-zv-1-jK5_ig4TJd9PgJnzQK c2kUfb

    That link doesn't load for me.





































    IQc/edit?usp=sharing

    Will ship anywhere there is no US export ban (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria).

    PalPal only. Local pickup available in the Dallas, Texas area.

    Prices range from $1-5 usually depending on the CD.
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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Thu Sep 30 02:48:42 2021
    Ogg wrote:
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Monday 19.04.21 - 04:57, Nelgin wrote to RetroNet.RTN_BUY_SELL:

    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell so I can find my new vinyl collection. Willing to ship world wide and have a wide assortment...

    I have a partial list of over 1000 you can view at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dML9HoSRoA-zv-1-jK5_ig4TJd9PgJnzQK
    c2kUfb

    Not sure where it went. Anyway, I've updated since I posted so I'll have to do another one.
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 23:40:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Thursday 30.09.21 - 02:48, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    I've got over 3000 CDs that I want to sell so I can find
    my new vinyl collection. [...]

    Are you going back vinyl?

    I think I would miss the convenience of plopping 5 CDs into a
    changer and activing the random mode.


    I have a partial list of over 1000 you can view at
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dML9HoSRoA-zv-1-
    jK5_ig4TJd9PgJn zQK c2kUfb

    Not sure where it went. Anyway, I've updated since I posted
    so I'll have to do another one.

    Looking forward to seeing the update.

    BTW, I think I scored pretty good with someone's collection of
    about 200 CDs, immaculate condition, and only 50cents each. I
    should be able to resell them for about $5 each.

    Last year pre-covid, someone donated a prestine collection of
    Time/Life, and another brand of CDs of the music from the 50s
    60s 70s 80s rock. About 80 pcs. People snatched those up for $7
    a piece. That was a good day.


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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Sun Oct 3 19:44:21 2021
    Re: Does anyone buy CDs any more?
    By: Ogg to Nelgin on Thu Sep 30 2021 23:40:00

    Are you going back vinyl?

    I think I would miss the convenience of plopping 5 CDs into a
    changer and activing the random mode.

    Not so much going back, but adding more. I literally have my hallway stacked with CDs I'm trying to catalogue one by one. It's an arduous task.
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Mon Oct 4 20:13:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Sunday 03.10.21 - 19:44, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    Are you going back vinyl?

    I think I would miss the convenience of plopping 5 CDs into
    a changer and activing the random mode.

    Not so much going back, but adding more. I literally have
    my hallway stacked with CDs I'm trying to catalogue one by
    one. It's an arduous task.

    I always thought it was kinda cool how programs such as iTunes
    could fetch the CD title/tracks/cover from imdb ..and therefore
    make it very easy to build a printable list. But there still
    remains doing that for each and every CD. I would imagine that
    the process would take atleast 2 minutes per CD. At 3000 CDs,
    that's 10hrs of work not counting interruptions or a failed
    search.

    A few years ago there was a really cool app that allowed one to
    take a picture of a book's spine, identify the book and produce
    a database entry for it on your phone. It was called BitLit and
    then Shelfie. You could even take a photo of a stack of book
    spines and it would return a list. Very slick. Something like
    that would be helpful for your CD piles! :D

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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Tue Oct 5 19:51:06 2021
    Re: Does anyone buy CDs any more?
    By: Ogg to Nelgin on Mon Oct 04 2021 20:13:00

    I always thought it was kinda cool how programs such as iTunes
    could fetch the CD title/tracks/cover from imdb ..and therefore
    make it very easy to build a printable list. But there still
    remains doing that for each and every CD. I would imagine that
    the process would take atleast 2 minutes per CD. At 3000 CDs,
    that's 10hrs of work not counting interruptions or a failed
    search.

    Well with Discogs you can scan a barcode and add it to your collection but then you have to determine which release you have since different versions could have the same barcode. It sometimes takes a little more than 2 minutes because you have to look at the tiny etchings on the disc close to the center. Sometimes it's a different book or different song listings.

    A few years ago there was a really cool app that allowed one to
    take a picture of a book's spine, identify the book and produce
    a database entry for it on your phone. It was called BitLit and
    then Shelfie. You could even take a photo of a stack of book
    spines and it would return a list. Very slick. Something like
    that would be helpful for your CD piles! :D

    If I could take a picture of them, that'd be great but it'd have to be a high quality one. To give you some idea, in the hall I have 9 stacks of CDs ranging in height from 52 to 58 inches. 52 in = 132cm. It's 58 inches wide. That's 147cm.

    Then I have stacks in my walkin closet and stacks on my shelves in the bedroom. I have a self full in my office. I don't have more in here because that's where all my 7" singles are, something like 500+ of them.
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Tue Oct 5 23:28:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Tuesday 05.10.21 - 19:51, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    Well with Discogs you can scan a barcode and add it to your
    collection but then you have to determine which release you
    have since different versions could have the same barcode.

    Good point. It is not enough to just know the record Title and
    Artist. This is the stash that was delivered to me today:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/cd2-IMG_20211005.jpg https://kolico.ca/tmp/cd1-IMG_20211005.jpg

    In one of the pics (if you zoom in) you can see two recordings
    of Shania Twain, same album, but different releases.


    It sometimes takes a little more than 2 minutes because you
    have to look at the tiny etchings on the disc close to the
    center. Sometimes it's a different book or different song
    listings.

    That's part of the enjoyment of appreciating the distinction of
    hardcopy CDs vs a streaming copy. :D


    [...] It was called BitLit and then Shelfie. You could
    even take a photo of a stack of book spines and it would
    return a list. Very slick. Something like that would be
    helpful for your CD piles! :D

    If I could take a picture of them, that'd be great but it'd
    have to be a high quality one.

    I tried jpg to text on the above images. The results were
    terrible.


    To give you some idea, in the hall I have 9 stacks of CDs
    ranging in height from 52 to 58 inches. [...]

    [...] Then I have stacks in my walkin closet and stacks on
    my shelves in the bedroom. I have a self full in my office.
    I don't have more in here because that's where all my 7"
    singles are, something like 500+ of them.

    That's amazing. I don't have nearly that many. Maybe 2500
    total. Mine are in freestanding stacks all over the floor and
    in some boxes. But I am not parting with mine any time soon.
    I'd like to peruse them at least one more time and rip most of
    them.

    I started collecting mine in the mid 80's. I already had a
    small stash of CDs *before* I even had a player. Then, I
    stopped buying them around year 2000 after a few years with
    Columbia House membership.

    I know one fellow who ripped his modest CD collection onto an
    iPod (one of the earlier ones that had a HDD, 160GB?) ..and
    then simply tossed the CDs into landfill. He wasn't interested
    to wait and see who might like the original physical copies.
    He wasn't anything like a fussy audiophile, so 128 kbps
    versions were good enough for him.

    The CDs in the above pics are all for sale. I am prepared to
    prioritize mailing them within my domestic region, Canada.

    I am currently enjoying the Bad Company recording "10 from 6".
    I recognize a couple of the radio hits from it, but the others
    are really quite refreshing and interesting too! The tune
    "Ready for Love" has a nice pace and sound.

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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Fri Oct 8 02:48:36 2021
    Re: Does anyone buy CDs any more?
    By: Ogg to Nelgin on Tue Oct 05 2021 23:28:00

    Good point. It is not enough to just know the record Title and
    Artist. This is the stash that was delivered to me today:

    Yup. You have to know what you're selling, especially to people who know what they're buying.

    That's part of the enjoyment of appreciating the distinction of
    hardcopy CDs vs a streaming copy. :D

    Very true. There's, for exampe, two releases of the Zoolook album by Jean Michel Jarre. One has Zoolookologie and the other has a remix which I much prefer. Same artist and Revolutions. The title track is different after a rights issue and I prefer the original. It makes a difference.

    I tried jpg to text on the above images. The results were
    terrible.

    I was thinking just take high quality pictures and post them and let people look through :)

    That's amazing. I don't have nearly that many. Maybe 2500
    total. Mine are in freestanding stacks all over the floor and
    in some boxes. But I am not parting with mine any time soon.
    I'd like to peruse them at least one more time and rip most of
    them.

    Well, if you want any more, let me know before they on Discogs :) If you're looking for anything specific, let me know.

    I know one fellow who ripped his modest CD collection onto an
    iPod (one of the earlier ones that had a HDD, 160GB?) ..and
    then simply tossed the CDs into landfill. He wasn't interested
    to wait and see who might like the original physical copies.
    He wasn't anything like a fussy audiophile, so 128 kbps
    versions were good enough for him.

    I've ripped a lot of mine, but the problem is, if the copyright police come looking for you, you better be able to prove you've got them. I'm similar. 128kbps is fine for what I need. If I really want quality and depth of sound, I'm going to listen to the vinyl.
    I am currently enjoying the Bad Company recording "10 from 6".
    I recognize a couple of the radio hits from it, but the others
    are really quite refreshing and interesting too! The tune
    "Ready for Love" has a nice pace and sound.

    I have the eponymous Genesis vinyl on right now...well, on the deck, but I'm not listening.

    Not at almost 3am!
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Fri Oct 8 21:42:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Friday 08.10.21 - 02:48, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    That's part of the enjoyment of appreciating the
    distinction of hardcopy CDs vs a streaming copy. :D

    Very true. There's, for exampe, two releases of the Zoolook
    album by Jean Michel Jarre. One has Zoolookologie and the
    other has a remix which I much prefer. Same artist and
    Revolutions. The title track is different after a rights
    issue and I prefer the original. It makes a difference.

    I have a modest collection of specific 10" singles (45rpm) that
    were often club remixes of standard versions. Those always
    sounded so clean, clear and sonically great!

    BTW, I think I still have Jarre's Oxygne LP.


    I tried jpg to text on the above images. The results were
    terrible.

    I was thinking just take high quality pictures and post
    them and let people look through :)

    Ah.. you mean the full cover. Taking a photo, cropping,
    uploading. labeling, and maybe creating a photo-album would
    take too long.

    At this point I would rather just research them all on Spotify,
    create a public list and post the link.


    That's amazing. I don't have nearly that many. Maybe 2500
    total. Mine are in freestanding stacks all over the floor and
    in some boxes. But I am not parting with mine any time soon.
    I'd like to peruse them at least one more time and rip most of
    them.

    Well, if you want any more, let me know before they on
    Discogs :) If you're looking for anything specific, let me
    know.

    Discogs is a good resource. Good luck! You have a lot of
    entries to make. :O

    Do you have any with this:

    https://susepaste.org/58135523

    That one is on a Nickleback recording, The Long Road (2003)

    I don't expect you to check your CDs for that! I just never
    came across any recordings with that copy protect branding
    before.

    But apparently, some of those discs are supposed to carry some
    mixed media content (pictures, a slideshow, etc?).


    I know one fellow who ripped his modest CD collection onto
    an iPod (one of the earlier ones that had a HDD, 160GB?)
    ..and then simply tossed the CDs into landfill. [...]

    I've ripped a lot of mine, but the problem is, if the
    copyright police come looking for you, you better be able
    to prove you've got them.

    Usually that "looking for you" problem is only if you spread
    copies around. The fellow just transferred his collection to
    the iPod for his own use. No one else would care.


    I'm similar. 128kbps is fine for what I need. If I really
    want quality and depth of sound, I'm going to listen to the
    vinyl.

    I can distinctly notice that 128kbps is woefully insufficient,
    for me. Material ripped to 192kbps is my minimum that doesn't
    have the edgyness that 128kbps creates.

    Tonight, I'm working my way through 3 Nickleback CDs from the
    aforementioned stash. Their music has never really been on my
    radar in the past. Most tunes remind me of a grundge/heavymetal
    mix. It makes for good party music. The harmonies are
    excellent. The drums, lively and superb.

    Instead of typing it out, I created a Spotify playlist of the
    tunes that appeal to me:

    https://open.spotify.com/user/6mhrz90aernzucux1fjas12u9/ playlist/1K4uUEcyWVL1XIje3B7T4E

    They all vary in style, creativity and intensity.

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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Tue Oct 19 04:57:56 2021
    Ogg wrote:

    Last year pre-covid, someone donated a prestine collection of
    Time/Life, and another brand of CDs of the music from the 50s
    60s 70s 80s rock. About 80 pcs. People snatched those up for $7
    a piece. That was a good day.

    You're selling these on Discogs?
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Tue Oct 19 18:10:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Tuesday 19.10.21 - 04:57, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    Last year pre-covid, someone donated a prestine collection of
    Time/Life, and another brand of CDs of the music from the 50s
    60s 70s 80s rock. About 80 pcs. People snatched those up for $7
    a piece. That was a good day.

    You're selling these on Discogs?

    No. That collection sold at my shop.

    Now, I have another bunch from another collector. It's the one
    I mentioned in my message with links to pics on Oct 5, here.



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  • From Nelgin@80:774/13 to Ogg on Thu Oct 21 13:12:41 2021
    Re: Does anyone buy CDs any more?
    By: Ogg to Nelgin on Tue Oct 19 2021 18:10:00

    You're selling these on Discogs?

    No. That collection sold at my shop.

    Maybe that's something I could do, though I don't know if 3000 CDs is enough to open a stop plus I'd have to hire someone to work it since I have a day job and then rent on the place. I doubt it'd pay for itself unless I sold other stuff.

    There's an app by the MusicBrainz team called Picard which is supposed to be able to identify a CD by reading it. I guess like the old cddb stuff. I might give that a try. I do have a barcode scanner and a script that looks up on MusicBrainz and Discogs but reading the cd and certain data that can be got from it may be quicker and more accurate.
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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Fri Oct 22 21:59:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Thursday 21.10.21 - 13:12, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    Re: Does anyone buy CDs any more?
    By: Ogg to Nelgin on Tue Oct 19 2021 18:10:00

    You're selling these on Discogs?

    No. That collection sold at my shop.

    Maybe that's something I could do, though I don't know if
    3000 CDs is enough to open a stop plus I'd have to hire
    someone to work it since I have a day job and then rent on
    the place. I doubt it'd pay for itself unless I sold other
    stuff.

    You're better off listing them online and wait for a buyer.


    There's an app by the MusicBrainz team called Picard which
    is supposed to be able to identify a CD by reading it. I
    guess like the old cddb stuff. I might give that a try. I
    do have a barcode scanner and a script that looks up on
    MusicBrainz and Discogs but reading the cd and certain data
    that can be got from it may be quicker and more accurate.

    I wouldn't bother with Picard.

    I think Discogs is the best choice. I joined up a few years
    ago, but I never got started with building a collection. I just
    primarily used it to buy a few discs.

    But tonight, I gave it a shot building my own collection. All
    you need to do is enter the barcode number and then find the
    best match from the list. You can custom edit your entry later
    if necessary, but I find that what's offered is pretty good as
    is.

    There is Export feature to CSV, if necessary.

    Discogs' interface doesn't fully work with my XP laptop, but I
    can switch over to my Win7 laptop for data entries.

    The serial-number lookup and match system with Discogs is much
    easier than spinning up a CD, checking an online database and
    building a local file.

    I really like Discogs' system. I just need to get diciplined,
    keep a stack of a few dozen CDs beside me and just make a few
    entries every day.

    One thing Discogs rules stipulate is "Sale, trade, or swap-
    style lists are not appropriate use of publicly viewable
    lists". That's a bit of a bummer. But since a Discogs
    collection is exportable, you can create a collection, export
    the data and build a suitable online table/database from that.


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  • From Ogg@80:774/114.10 to Nelgin on Sat Oct 23 23:09:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Thursday 21.10.21 - 13:12, Nelgin wrote to Ogg:

    Maybe that's something I could do, though I don't know if
    3000 CDs is enough to open a stop plus I'd have to hire
    someone to work it since I have a day job and then rent on
    the place. I doubt it'd pay for itself unless I sold other
    stuff.

    Further to my Discogs discussion.. maybe just hire someone to
    make the Discogs lookups to build your collection.

    Here are my first results:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/discogs.jpg
    https://kolico.ca/tmp/discogs2.jpg

    And then you can download the CSV file of your collection.
    Excel does a fine job in establishing that data into a
    spreadsheet:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/discogs3.jpg

    Yes.. I like the results. I think I will give this a go for
    different parts of my collection.

    Then, it is a simple matter to enable "Sell" on a per CD basis.

    Although, it would also be nice to sell a collection as a whole
    instead of mailing out each piece one by one - but that doesn't
    seem possible with Discogs. You pretty much have to hope that
    someone will want YOUR copy (according to condition and not
    solely because it might be the cheapest).

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