Hi,

does anyone here in fsxNet have one of the fsxNet InterBBS games set up in
a Synchronet BBS and could give me some advice on how to set it up?

I don't understand yet how to attach the InterBBS games to the message
flow here...

Thank you very much!

Regards,
Anna
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Re: InterBBS games with Synchronet
By: acn to All on Sun Aug 29 2021 04:49 pm

Hi Anna,

does anyone here in fsxNet have one of the fsxNet InterBBS games set up in
a Synchronet BBS and could give me some advice on how to set it up?

I don't understand yet how to attach the InterBBS games to the message
flow here...

I guess it doesnt really related to "messages", most InterBBS games send "files" around (that the message system ignores when tossing inbound mail packets).

So you need to have another task that processes the inbound files, and for outbound, its easier if you put them in a filebox to send to the appropriate uplink.

So for me, I have a timed event (run multiple times per day) that runs a batch file.

That batch file looks for specific game packets, runs the games maintenance utility, and then places any outbound game packets in a filebox (which binkit takes care of the next time it talks to the system).


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On 29 Aug 2021, acn said the following...

does anyone here in fsxNet have one of the fsxNet InterBBS games set up
in a Synchronet BBS and could give me some advice on how to set it up?

I don't understand yet how to attach the InterBBS games to the message flow here...

Most of the Synchronet InterBBS games and stuff like the oneliner and graffiti wall directly connect to the main server, don't use the message areas. Take a look at the configuration files in whichever game you are setting up, they are pretty self-explanatory. I do have a Synchronet instance set up here that folks can rlogin into for a few specific games.

I am far from being a synch expert though. I would ask on one of the Synchronet echoes.

Most of the Synch specific games just require you to set up a server.ini in it's directory under xtrn. Mine from syncwall looks like this:

host = bbs.electronicchicken.com
port = 10088

If you were going to only run it locally you would put the host to 'localhost' and set up the json service if I recall.

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Am 30.08.21 schrieb Captain Obvious@21:1/157 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo Captain,

does anyone here in fsxNet have one of the fsxNet InterBBS games set up ac>> in a Synchronet BBS and could give me some advice on how to set it up? ac>>
I don't understand yet how to attach the InterBBS games to the message ac>> flow here...

Most of the Synchronet InterBBS games and stuff like the oneliner and graffiti wall directly connect to the main server, don't use the message areas. [...]

I know these games and their configuration - and have some of them
configured in my BBS.

My question was more about the 'classic' InterBBS games which don't use direct IP connections but use message echos or fileboxes to exchange game data.
Some message networks, like fsxNet, have some of these games running but
most README files about setting these games up are only for Mystic BBS and
I think I lack the last bit of understanding on how to set these up in Synchronet: The game data files need to be inserted and extracted from the 'normal' message flow somehow...

Regards,
Anna
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Am 30.08.21 schrieb deon@21:2/116 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo deon,

does anyone here in fsxNet have one of the fsxNet InterBBS games set up in >> a Synchronet BBS and could give me some advice on how to set it up?

I don't understand yet how to attach the InterBBS games to the message
flow here...

I guess it doesnt really related to "messages", most InterBBS games send "files" around (that the message system ignores when tossing inbound mail packets).

Ah okay.

So you need to have another task that processes the inbound files, and for outbound, its easier if you put them in a filebox to send to the
appropriate uplink.

So for me, I have a timed event (run multiple times per day) that runs a batch file.

That batch file looks for specific game packets, runs the games maintenance utility, and then places any outbound game packets in a filebox (which binkit takes care of the next time it talks to the system).

Okay, I think I'm beginning to understand it.

I'm just irritated by the Synchronet wiki where the page for SBBSecho
claims that "BinkIT does not support inboxes" and it has "experimental support for outboxes".
Do you use these settings for the linked nodes or do you place the files directly in the linked node's directories (with the numbered directories)?
And your batch file looks into /sbbs/fido/inbound and moves the game files from there?

Thank you very much!

Regards,
Anna
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acn wrote (2021-09-02):

Okay, I think I'm beginning to understand it.

I'm just irritated by the Synchronet wiki where the page for SBBSecho claims that "BinkIT does not support inboxes" and it has "experimental support for outboxes".

AFAIK there is no way to implement an inbox reliably.
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Re: Re: InterBBS games with Synchronet
By: acn to deon on Thu Sep 02 2021 10:24 am

I'm just irritated by the Synchronet wiki where the page for SBBSecho
claims that "BinkIT does not support inboxes" and it has "experimental support for outboxes".

Yeah, I'm not sure what is experimental about it - Digital Man may be able to comment, but it does work. I dont think he actually wrote binkit (maybe Deuce wrote it) so that'll probably explain why the wiki is not so clear.

Do you use these settings for the linked nodes or do you place the files directly in the linked node's directories (with the numbered
directories)?
And your batch file looks into /sbbs/fido/inbound and moves the game files from there?

Yes on the linked node (echocfg), I specify a filebox for a node, and anything put in there goes out during the next session. You can even trigger the session with a semafore (although its a general binkp "poll all" instead of poll a specific node - but then you could call jsexec binkit -l <node> in the batch file if you wanted it to go out immediately.

(Or you can use binkd instead of binkit - as some folks do.)


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On 02 Sep 2021, acn said the following...

Some message networks, like fsxNet, have some of these games running but most README files about setting these games up are only for Mystic BBS
and I think I lack the last bit of understanding on how to set these
up in Synchronet: The game data files need to be inserted and

Ah, ok. My bad.

Don't know about other games but the setup process for InterBBS BRE is at the Synchronet Wiki. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:bre

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To: everyone planning interBBS games...

On 02 Sep 2021, Captain Obvious said the following...

On 02 Sep 2021, acn said the following...

Some message networks, like fsxNet, have some of these games running most README files about setting these games up are only for Mystic BB and I think I lack the last bit of understanding on how to set thes up in Synchronet: The game data files need to be inserted and

Ah, ok. My bad.
Don't know about other games but the setup process for InterBBS BRE is
at the Synchronet Wiki. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:bre

I've never setup an interBBS game, but I'd be willing to try BRE with you
guys since it looks like there's docs for Mystic & Synchronet. I also have fsxNet & doveNet setup so I'm okay with using either network for game data.

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Am 02.09.21 schrieb deon@21:2/116 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo deon,

Yeah, I'm not sure what is experimental about it - Digital Man may be able to comment, but it does work. I dont think he actually wrote binkit (maybe Deuce wrote it) so that'll probably explain why the wiki is not so clear.

Okay :)

Yes on the linked node (echocfg), I specify a filebox for a node, and anything put in there goes out during the next session.

Is this filebox directory an additional directory to the standard outgoing "numeric" directory or is it replacing it?

You can even
trigger the session with a semafore (although its a general binkp "poll
all" instead of poll a specific node - but then you could call jsexec
binkit -l <node> in the batch file if you wanted it to go out immediately.

Okay, thank you!

Have a nice weekend!

Regards,
Anna
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Am 02.09.21 schrieb Captain Obvious@21:1/157 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo Captain,

Ah, ok. My bad.

No problem :)

Don't know about other games but the setup process for InterBBS BRE is at the Synchronet Wiki. http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:bre

I've looked at it, thank you! I think I have to read it some more times to fully understand it.
My problem is, that in most cases, I don't only want to follow a step-by-
step instruction but I want to understand what I'm doing and why :)
That's why it often takes a little longer for me to achieve this ;-)

Regards,
Anna
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Re: Re: InterBBS games with Synchronet
By: acn to deon on Fri Sep 03 2021 11:53 am

Yes on the linked node (echocfg), I specify a filebox for a node, and anything put in there goes out during the next session.

Is this filebox directory an additional directory to the standard outgoing "numeric" directory or is it replacing it?

Yes, by design, its a specific directory for a specific node. The name is arbitrary, ie: I could set up /path/to/acn and anything in that dir goes to you for example (although I generally name them /mailer/box/zz.ff.nn.pp, so I remember who the box is for :)

Have a nice weekend!

You too!


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On 02 Sep 2021, fang-castro said the following...

I've never setup an interBBS game, but I'd be willing to try BRE with you guys since it looks like there's docs for Mystic & Synchronet. I also
have fsxNet & doveNet setup so I'm okay with using either network for

Avon already has BRE for fsX set up if you want to join in. Not a ton of folks playing but there are some.

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Am 03.09.21 schrieb deon@21:2/116 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo deon,

sorry for the late reply...

Is this filebox directory an additional directory to the standard outgoing a>> "numeric" directory or is it replacing it?

Yes, by design, its a specific directory for a specific node. The name is arbitrary, ie: I could set up /path/to/acn and anything in that dir goes to you for example (although I generally name them /mailer/box/zz.ff.nn.pp, so I remember who the box is for :)

Okay.
I just asked because I've set an Outbox directory for my point (/sbbs/fido/topoint) and now I'm finding message packet files there,
eg. 0000p001.FR0 today.
Do you also see this behaviour?

Regards,
Anna

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Re: Re: InterBBS games with Synchronet
By: acn to deon on Fri Sep 24 2021 05:10 pm

Okay.
I just asked because I've set an Outbox directory for my point (/sbbs/fido/topoint) and now I'm finding message packet files there,
eg. 0000p001.FR0 today.
Do you also see this behaviour?

That probably sounds right.

For the system that I use a filebox config for, I dont receive mail (nor send mail) so sbbsecho doesnt export anything for that node.


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Am 25.09.21 schrieb deon@21:2/116 in FSX_GAMING:

Hallo deon,

Okay.
I just asked because I've set an Outbox directory for my point
(/sbbs/fido/topoint) and now I'm finding message packet files there, eg. a>> 0000p001.FR0 today. Do you also see this behaviour?

That probably sounds right.

Oh, okay. I hadn't expected this behaviour :)

For the system that I use a filebox config for, I dont receive mail (nor send mail) so sbbsecho doesnt export anything for that node.

Okay :)

Have a nice week!

Regards,
Anna

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