• Your favourite games as a kid / teen?

    From Oli@21:3/102 to All on Mon May 31 19:30:24 2021
    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    The first games that come to mind:

    - Marbles
    - Mastermind
    - MAD Magazine card game
    - Barbarossa (Spiel des Jahres 1988)
    - Shadowrun RPG
    - Talislanta RPG
    - ...
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  • From tallship@21:2/104 to Oli on Mon May 31 13:25:58 2021
    On 31 May 2021, Oli said the following...

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?


    I think one of my favorite games was 'rock fights'.

    I was really good at that an we used to play that in the field behind my
    house.

    We also built a little fort where a couple of the neighbor girls taught me
    how to play um.... well, I guess I figured it out at 11yrs old lolz.
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  • From Lupine Furmen@21:4/102 to Oli on Mon May 31 16:23:47 2021
    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    AD&D 2nd Ed
    Toon RPG
    Spell Jammer RPG
    Uno
    Connect Four
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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Oli on Mon May 31 19:07:00 2021
    Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    Wow, making me think that far back??

    Chutes & Ladders
    Go fish
    Mouse Trap

    That's about all that comes to mind at the moment.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Oli on Mon May 31 20:37:00 2021
    Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    The first games that come to mind:

    - Marbles
    - Mastermind
    - MAD Magazine card game
    - Barbarossa (Spiel des Jahres 1988)
    - Shadowrun RPG
    - Talislanta RPG

    Monopoly
    Uno
    Cribbage
    Checkers
    Ouija Board



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Tue Jun 1 17:44:00 2021
    On 05-31-21 19:30, Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    I used to like a lot of card games like rummy, 500,etc. There were also board games like Monopoly. Went through a backgammon phase at one stage too.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 1 05:05:04 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Vk3jed to Oli on Tue Jun 01 2021 05:44 pm

    On 05-31-21 19:30, Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    I used to like a lot of card games like rummy, 500,etc. There were also board games like Monopo
    Went through a backgammon phase at one stage too.


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    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is objetively a very bad game. The
    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long grind of players being
    eliminated one after the other with close to no player input to the system.

    If I had to name some non-videogame influential games from my childhood, I would name Warhammer RPG
    . Knizia's Lord of the Rings was also influential.

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  • From Lightman@21:3/143 to Arelor on Tue Jun 1 23:32:21 2021
    Hi Arelor,

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is
    objetively a very bad game. The


    I'm not one to argue, but to say 'objectively' might stretch credulity a bit
    - lol. I don't disagree with your sentiment - if you ended up on the wrong
    side post 'saddle'....

    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long

    .... you spent the next two (ten?!) hours pissed and ready to flip the table
    - it could ruin your day. But... - subjectively - there was **something** to this arrival at the 'saddle' which had all of us coming back for more, even though my older sibs always kicked my arse. What?! I dunno - the thought of holding a monopoly on the 'green' states and seeing your friends fall into
    the trap of needing to rent from your hotels? Yeah - I got it, the game
    sucked, but looking back on life in the 80s (my perspective) - its what you
    had and how you hung out with friends when it was too temperate to run about sardines / hide-and-seek. hehe

    I'll give you that the game sucked (from my perspective) - I dunno if I will say 'objectively'. Sometimes I wish the kids of this generation would play a crappy game like Monopoly, and spend time face to face with friends for the hours (short-version) or, sometimes, days it would take to finish a game with six players.

    So... maybe I find myself in agreement after all.... but I'm glad the game existed. It was fun (socially), and easy to approach for a kid who didn't
    have parents to teach them game-theory.

    lol
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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Arelor on Wed Jun 2 18:52:00 2021
    On 06-01-21 05:05, Arelor wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is
    objetively a very bad game. The
    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on
    during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long grind of players being
    eliminated one after the other with close to no player input to the system.

    It was still an influential game.

    If I had to name some non-videogame influential games from my
    childhood, I would name Warhammer RPG
    . Knizia's Lord of the Rings was also influential.

    I haven't played either of those.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Lightman on Wed Jun 2 15:11:20 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Lightman to Arelor on Tue Jun 01 2021 11:32 pm

    Hi Arelor,

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is objetively a very bad game. The


    I'm not one to argue, but to say 'objectively' might stretch credulity a bit - lol. I don't disagree with your sentiment - if you ended up on the wrong side post 'saddle'....


    It has nothing to do with winning or losing. If you are in a dominant possition post saddle you are still going to get bored to death.

    Board game design is so advanced and has been iterated over so often that whether the game succeds or fails at achieving its design goals is quite obvious. Board games can have many design goals - MOnopolyç's was promoting Georgism - but any one that aims to be entertaining needs one of the following things:

    * To offer meaningful decisions to the player, so the player gets involved and sucked into the game. Or some intelectual challenge at least.
    * To offer tension, so the player is bitting his nails because the next die roll is the difference between life and death.

    Monopoly does this for a while, then it runs dry. Which is why I categorize it as objetively bad. Bonus ponts because it failed at educating people about Georgism too.

    Now compare this to a non-mainstream family friendly game like 7 Wonders:

    * You get a meaningful decision to make every single turn.
    * No player gets eliminated, so everybody has fun until the very end.
    * You need to adapt to what others players are doing (intelectual challenge).

    Heck, even a game so basic such as Ticket to Ride has these.






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  • From Lupine Furmen@21:4/102 to Lightman on Thu Jun 3 08:25:05 2021
    .... you spent the next two (ten?!) hours pissed and ready to flip the

    2-10 hours??? You light weights!!! I was in a game with a friend of mine in the early 80's that lasted for 2, count em TWO, days! :D It was the most fun game I've ever played!

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Oli on Fri Jun 11 08:02:59 2021
    Ha, man I'm replying to alot of old posts .. I'm so far behind on FTN's. But throwing mine out there anyway ..

    -Astroids (atari?) and Arcade
    -Defender Arcade
    -Ms. Pac Man Arcade
    -Lord of the Realms C64
    -Commando C64
    -Dragons Lair Arcade
    -Mortal Combat ummm... anywhere
    -Age of Empires (umm.. was I still a kid? probably not ..)

    and many more.

    -tG
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  • From Cobradile@21:1/158 to Oli on Fri Aug 13 11:12:04 2021
    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Cobradile on Fri Aug 13 08:30:08 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Cobradile to Oli on Fri Aug 13 2021 11:12 am

    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

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    I used to play a lot of Intelect, which is a Spanish clone of Scrabble. I also liked Knizia's The Lord of the Rings. In addition, I used to play a lot of Risk. There was also a card racing game called The Thousand Milestones which was fun.

    Nowadays I find those games very basic and not that good (with the exception of Knizia's). There are just much better board games in the wild.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Cobradile on Sat Aug 14 13:54:37 2021
    On 13 Aug 2021 at 11:12a, Cobradile pondered and said...

    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

    Uno I played a lot of.

    I also played a lot of Atari games when younger. Space Invaders being a favourite :)
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