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  • test long lines Hub 1

    From Oli@21:1/151 to All on Tue Mar 31 13:23:36 2020
    Testing long lines with Hub 100. See mail from apam "Oli's Messages".

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    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Oli on Tue Mar 31 04:50:02 2020
    166
    Hello Oli,

    Testing long lines with Hub 100. See mail from apam "Oli's Messages".

    0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 012345678 9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHI JABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGH IJ012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567 89012345678901234567890123456 789ABCDEFGHIJABCDE 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 ABCDEFGHI ABCDE

    That's more or less what I see. Golded has reformatted the reply.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Oli on Tue Mar 31 04:55:26 2020
    166
    Testing long lines with Hub 100. See mail from apam "Oli's Messages".

    012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567 >9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG >IJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345
    789ABCDEFGHIJABCDE
    123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12345678
    ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI
    ABCDEFGHI 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12345678
    123456789 ABCDEFGHI ABCDE

    That's what I see. BBBS didn't (in this case) wrap the reply up.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Tue Mar 31 14:06:18 2020
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:55:26 -0700
    "Al -> Oli" <0@106.4.21> wrote:

    Testing long lines with Hub 100. See mail from apam "Oli's
    Messages".

    012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567

    there is a "8" missing

    9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG
    IJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345

    and a "6"

    789ABCDEFGHIJABCDE
    123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789
    123456789 12345678
    ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI
    ABCDEFGHI
    ABCDEFGHI 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789
    123456789 12345678
    123456789 ABCDEFGHI ABCDE

    That's what I see. BBBS didn't (in this case) wrap the reply up.

    Now I triggered a bug in BBBS too?

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    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Tue Mar 31 14:46:16 2020
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 04:50:02 -0700
    "Al -> Oli" <1@106.4.21> wrote:

    Hello Oli,

    Testing long lines with Hub 100. See mail from apam "Oli's
    Messages".

    0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789
    012345678
    9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHI
    JABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGH
    IJ012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567
    89012345678901234567890123456 789ABCDEFGHIJABCDE 123456789
    123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789
    123456789 ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI
    ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI ABCDEFGHI 123456789 123456789 123456789
    123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 ABCDEFGHI
    ABCDE

    That's more or less what I see. Golded has reformatted the reply.

    The long lines were 960 characters long, I only count 255 characters (or 256 chars including an added CR?). That is the same that apam was seeing, lines are




































































































































































































































































































    cut after 255 characters (the line breaks at col 79 are from Hub 4).

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    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Oli on Wed Apr 1 00:41:30 2020
    Re: test long lines Hub 1
    By: Oli to Al on Tue Mar 31 2020 02:46 pm

    The long lines were 960 characters long, I only count 255 characters (or
    256 chars including an added CR?). That is the same that
    apam was seeing, lines are
    cut after 255 characters (the line breaks at col 79 are from Hub 4).

    So I got your message from 1/100 via 3/100 and it only had 1 long line of 256 chars.
    ...deon


    ... An easily understood, workable falsehood is more useful than the truth
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Oli on Tue Mar 31 11:36:44 2020
    166 >012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567

    there is a "8" missing

    9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG >IJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345

    and a "6"

    That's what I see. BBBS didn't (in this case) wrap the reply up.

    Now I triggered a bug in BBBS too?

    Yes, I think that is a BBBS bug. It does that at times when replying.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Oli on Tue Mar 31 11:40:12 2020
    166
    That's more or less what I see. Golded has reformatted the reply.

    The long lines were 960 characters long, I only count 255 characters (or 256
    chars including an added CR?). That is the same that apam was seeing, lines ar
    cut after 255 characters (the line breaks at col 79 are from Hub 4).

    Yes, I think that is exactly right. I wish g00r00 was around and we could give him input. Maybe he is reading us.. I dunno.

    BBBS dropped a letter at the end of the fourth line. Perhaps I can talk to Kim about that issue.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Al on Tue Mar 31 20:17:34 2020
    168
    Al wrote to Oli <=-

    That's more or less what I see. Golded has reformatted the reply.

    The long lines were 960 characters long, I only count 255 characters (or 256
    chars including an added CR?). That is the same that apam was seeing, lines ar
    cut after 255 characters (the line breaks at col 79 are from Hub 4).

    Yes, I think that is exactly right. I wish g00r00 was around and we
    could give him input. Maybe he is reading us.. I dunno.

    He is reading on Scinet at least.


    ... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
    --- MultiMail
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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Blue White on Tue Mar 31 20:33:52 2020
    166
    Yes, I think that is exactly right. I wish g00r00 was around and we
    could give him input. Maybe he is reading us.. I dunno.

    He is reading on Scinet at least.

    I wonder if I was part of the "problem" that made g00r00 leave?

    I was never angry about what is or isn't happening and if g00r00 ever wants input from me I'll do my best to get it to him.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Al on Wed Apr 1 14:48:54 2020
    Re: Re: test long lines Hub 1
    By: Al to Blue White on Tue Mar 31 2020 08:33 pm

    I wonder if I was part of the "problem" that made g00r00 leave?

    Personally, I dont think you were.

    For the record, since the conversation involved me, I wasnt angry either - the conversation changed drastically though (caught me from left field) and when claims were made of me that were not true - I provided more detail around how those claims were not true. For me, it kinda turned comical - along the lines of "did that really just happen?"

    Anyway...
    ...deon


    ... If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to alterego on Wed Apr 1 20:08:16 2020
    On 01 Apr 2020 at 12:41a, alterego pondered and said...

    @PATH: 2/116 100 1/100

    So I got your message from 1/100 via 3/100 and it only had 1 long line
    of 256 chars.

    Seems I get dupes from you - first message.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to alterego on Wed Apr 1 20:09:42 2020
    On 01 Apr 2020 at 12:41a, alterego pondered and said...

    @PATH: 2/116 3/100 1/100

    So I got your message from 1/100 via 3/100 and it only had 1 long line
    of 256 ch ars.

    and second message. What are you running to cause this? Sorry I am behind the times on all of these but I thought your node 2/116 was not creating things that may lead to dupes?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Wed Apr 1 20:12:18 2020
    On 01 Apr 2020 at 02:48p, alterego pondered and said...

    I wonder if I was part of the "problem" that made g00r00 leave?

    Personally, I dont think you were.

    Who can ever know. It's a moving target it seems.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Wed Apr 1 08:22:32 2020
    On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:33:52 -0700
    "Al -> Blue White" <0@106.4.21> wrote:

    Yes, I think that is exactly right. I wish g00r00 was around and we
    could give him input. Maybe he is reading us.. I dunno.

    He is reading on Scinet at least.

    I wonder if I was part of the "problem" that made g00r00 leave?

    Maybe g00r00 sees it like this (I don't know), but in reality he has created this problem for himself by attacking everyone who reminded him that Mystic is creating problems in the network.

    ---
    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Avon on Wed Apr 1 09:37:30 2020
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 20:09:43 +1300
    "Avon -> alterego" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

    On 01 Apr 2020 at 12:41a, alterego pondered and said...

    @PATH: 2/116 3/100 1/100

    So I got your message from 1/100 via 3/100 and it only had 1
    long line of 256 ch ars.

    and second message. What are you running to cause this? Sorry I am
    behind the times on all of these but I thought your node 2/116 was
    not creating things that may lead to dupes?

    It's your node 1/100 that are creating the mangled dupes.

    ---
    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Oli on Wed Apr 1 20:59:54 2020
    On 01 Apr 2020 at 09:37a, Oli pondered and said...

    It's your node 1/100 that are creating the mangled dupes.

    I've made some changes, try another test please :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Avon on Wed Apr 1 19:12:36 2020
    Re: Re: test long lines Hub 1
    By: Avon to alterego on Wed Apr 01 2020 08:09 pm

    and second message. What are you running to cause this? Sorry I am behind the times on all of these but I thought your node 2/116 was not creating things that may lead to dupes?

    So I havent changed my setup for many weeks. (And the only change I made a few weeks ago was to ignore soft-cr's on imported mail. Before that I've been running the same setup for months.)

    So are you the only one seeing dupes from me?

    This message will go both to 3/100 and 2/100 - I've been feeding from 3/100 for




































































































































































































































































































    several weeks now (and still from 2/100) - is this the first time you are seeing dupes?
    ...deon


    ... May you live all the days of your life.
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to alterego on Wed Apr 1 19:06:00 2020
    On 04-01-20 14:48, alterego wrote to Al <=-

    provided more detail around how those claims were not true. For me, it kinda turned comical - along the lines of "did that really just
    happen?"

    Commonly known as "WTF?!?!?!?!" ;)


    ... You did WHAT in my name? - God.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Wed Apr 1 01:20:28 2020
    166
    It's your node 1/100 that are creating the mangled dupes.

    I've made some changes, try another test please :)

    It only happens in the right circumstances. Mystic passes messages with long lines unchanged. That's good.. but it truncates those long lines at 256 characters. BBBS writes messages with long lines but this message is going to arrive at your node via 4/100 and it is going to be changed there, it is going to be word wrapped.

    If you'd like some testing I can connect the areas at 3/100 and we might see this happening to my messages too.

    Let me know. If we do that we can do the testing in this area so it doesn't disrupt the usual flow of the net.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Avon on Wed Apr 1 10:23:02 2020
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 20:59:55 +1300
    "Avon -> Oli" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

    On 01 Apr 2020 at 09:37a, Oli pondered and said...

    It's your node 1/100 that are creating the mangled dupes.

    I've made some changes, try another test please :)

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    ABCDEFGHIJABCDE

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    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Oli on Wed Apr 1 01:40:46 2020
    166
    I've made some changes, try another test please :)

    012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567 >9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG >IJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 >789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDE >GHIJ01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123 >56789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABC >EFGHIJ012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901 >3456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJA >CDEFGHIJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 >123456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHI >ABCDEFGHIJ01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567 >90123456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG
    IJABCDEFGHIJ

    I got this via 3/100 and 4/100. I saw another in my inbound trucated at 256 characters but BBBS trapped it as a dupe and sent it away to dupe heaven.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From apam@21:1/126 to Al on Wed Apr 1 19:15:54 2020
    I got this via 3/100 and 4/100. I saw another in my inbound
    trucated at 256 characters but BBBS trapped it as a dupe and sent
    it away to dupe heaven.

    I only got the one truncated at 256 chars it seems.

    --- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Wed Apr 1 11:26:24 2020
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 01:40:46 -0800
    "Al -> Oli" <0@106.4.21> wrote:

    I've made some changes, try another test please :)

    012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567
    9ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG
    IJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345
    789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDE
    GHIJ01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123
    56789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABC
    EFGHIJ012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901
    3456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJA
    CDEFGHIJ0123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789
    123456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHI
    ABCDEFGHIJ01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567
    90123456789ABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFGHIJABCDEFG
    IJABCDEFGHIJ

    I got this via 3/100 and 4/100. I saw another in my inbound trucated
    at 256 characters but BBBS trapped it as a dupe and sent it away to
    dupe heaven.

    Okay, thanks. So nothing has changed since the last test. I still believe the problem is created by Mystic 2020/03/26. Maybe someone can test the newest build.

    ---
    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to apam on Wed Apr 1 02:34:28 2020
    166
    I only got the one truncated at 256 chars it seems.

    It's good to see messages at least trying not to change in transit. This is unexpected that they'd get truncated at 256 characters.

    I've seen file descriptions in tic files truncated at 256 characters in times past, likely the same sort of problem.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Al on Wed Apr 1 13:06:12 2020
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 02:34:28 -0700
    "Al -> apam" <0@106.4.21> wrote:

    I only got the one truncated at 256 chars it seems.

    It's good to see messages at least trying not to change in transit.
    This is unexpected that they'd get truncated at 256 characters.

    I've seen file descriptions in tic files truncated at 256 characters
    in times past, likely the same sort of problem.

    255 characters is the maximum length of a Free Pascal ShortString: https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu9.html

    ---
    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Al on Wed Apr 1 16:48:24 2020
    168
    Al wrote to Blue White <=-

    Yes, I think that is exactly right. I wish g00r00 was around and we
    could give him input. Maybe he is reading us.. I dunno.

    He is reading on Scinet at least.

    I wonder if I was part of the "problem" that made g00r00 leave?

    I was never angry about what is or isn't happening and if g00r00 ever wants input from me I'll do my best to get it to him.

    Best as I could tell, you only offered information about bugs (that mystic was changing mail in transit, for example, which causes network issues) so if
    you were a part of the problem he has rather thin skin.



    ... Direct from the Ministry of Silly Walks
    --- MultiMail
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