• How are you running your bbs

    From Manu@21:2/109 to All on Wed Oct 30 13:27:36 2019

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback

    Thanks
    Manu Ngamotu
    Nexus Computers BBS
    telnet:120.29.1.69 Port 23

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Nexus Computers BBS (21:2/109)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Manu on Tue Oct 29 21:18:08 2019
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?

    I figure that you run a system as a virtual box for a couple of reasons. I'm sure I'm missing some use cases, but this is what I think of.

    The first (and generally most important with BBSs) is because the darn thing doesn't work in a modern operating system.

    The second is that you want it as a container for some reason -- e.g., you
    want something that you can swap to a different place with minimal pain, or
    you want to be able to make significant changes and just go back to a
    previous image when everything goes terribly. Basically all the reasons why you'd use Docker or other containers for web sites.

    In the case of Mystic BBS, it seems like overkill and overhead. I can run my BBS on the system as is. It behaves pretty much as expected, and I don't have to deal with any virtual machine issues.

    But to each their own, and I'm sure people have done similar things for good reasons. What would yours be?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From apam@21:1/126 to Adept on Wed Oct 30 14:49:22 2019
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?

    I figure that you run a system as a virtual box for a couple of reasons. I'm sure I'm missing some use cases, but this is what I think of.

    A VM doesn't have to mean virtual box or some other desktop
    Virtualization system. It could be a VPS hosted by a hosting provider,
    where you could get things like a static IP (if you don't have one at
    home), 99% uptime, automatic backups etc.

    As for hosting in virtualbox, things like snapshots could be handy.

    Andrew

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    * Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)
  • From Manu@21:2/109 to Adept on Wed Oct 30 15:21:52 2019
    good reasons. What would yours be?
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

    Thank you for your reply
    I'm running mine on an old laptop it works fine as is

    what is your PC System Speks?

    Thanks
    Manu Ngamotu
    Nexus Computers BBS
    telnet:120.29.1.69 Port 23

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Nexus Computers BBS (21:2/109)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to apam on Tue Oct 29 22:51:32 2019
    A VM doesn't have to mean virtual box or some other desktop
    Virtualization system. It could be a VPS hosted by a hosting provider,

    Oh. I had really separated those, and hadn't thought that when someone said "VM", they'd be referring to a VPS.

    But, indeed, there're lots of benefits to using a VPS, as you mentioned.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Manu on Tue Oct 29 22:53:50 2019
    what is your PC System Speks?

    A cast-off desktop PC that I picked up from my university in 2016, and
    upgraded to win10.

    It's not really good for things that require much of a system, but it's great for running the BBS.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to Manu on Tue Oct 29 23:16:20 2019
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I;m currently running mine on a VPN company, using Windows Server and running Mystic 64.

    I've run it under a Virtual Box before (My earlier BBS Game Server) and it worked ok, it would lock up from time to time, but I think that was due to
    the version of Windows XP I had running.

    So I would say... Just try it... see how you like it.

    Gary Crunk - Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
    Quazar BBS Door Game Server: quazarbbs.dynu.net Port 2323
    300 F-ing Baud BBS: 300baud.dynu.net Port 2525

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Another F-ing BBS (21:4/126)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Manu on Tue Oct 29 23:55:20 2019
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    My BBS runs on a VPS at linode.com. It costs me $5.00 a month and comes
    with 25Gb of HD space, actually I think it is an SSD. I have 1GB of RAM
    witch runs the BBS/Mailer and a couple servers nicely. You can get more
    CPU, Ram and storage if you need it for more $.

    I don't need to worry about things like power outages or the computer
    dropping dead. I'm thinking that the BBS/Mailer and servers will all
    start up on their own if the linode ever reboots for some reason but
    havem't had that happen yet.. so I dunno for sure.. :)

    It's just out of the way, and out of danger.. :)

    Ttyl :-)
    Al

    --- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 19:53:00 2019
    On 10-30-19 13:27, Manu wrote to All <=-

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I run 2 BBSs on a Banana Pi, and a third on an old netbook.


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    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
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  • From Argos@21:1/203 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 08:32:12 2019

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback


    I am running my BBS on a VMware exsi box v6.5 ... I have two Windows 7 32 bit nodes on it. I run two Mystic BBS's On one Node is my Development side and the other is my Production. I do all my testing on the DEV Mystic side
    first. Then once I get what i am doing running ( Doors and such ) I will do
    the same procedure on the production side. I document allot :)

    ---

    Rocket Town BBS - Telnet: rtbbs.ddns.net
    fsxNET: 21:1/203 FidoNET:1:135/383 - Titusville, FL. NASA SPACE Coast

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Rocket Town BBS (21:1/203)
  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to All on Wed Oct 30 13:33:28 2019
    On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 13:27:00 Europe/London
    Manu wrote:

    hi all

    Hi Manu =)


    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a
    Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback


    I run my two BBSes virtualized; My Mystic BBS is running in a container provided by a Proxmox VE server, and my Enigma 1/2 BBS is running in a
    full Debian 10 VM, again provided by my other Proxmox VE server.

    I can definitely say that running your BBS in a virtualized environment
    does have some perks, like easy snapshots, migration to another host if
    you need to perform down time on a host, to name just a couple. Not to
    mention the ease of spinning up another VM or cloning one if you want
    to make a new system using identical configs so you can just change
    stuff rather than start from scratch.

    Thanks
    Manu Ngamotu
    Nexus Computers BBS
    telnet:120.29.1.69 Port 23

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Nexus Computers BBS (21:2/109)


    --
    Best regards,
    MeaTLoTioN

    --- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)
  • From lemonlime@21:4/162 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 13:04:04 2019
    On 30 Oct 2019, Manu said the following...

    hi all

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback

    I work for VMware so I'm a bit biased towards using VMs these days, but I run my BBS in Amazon EC2 currently. I've been using their free tier, which gets
    you a single core VM with 1GB of RAM - plenty for a BBS. A year from now when the free tier up, it'll probably be about $5/mo CDN for a nano instance. I
    have a VMware vSphere home lab that I can consider using later on as well.

    Cheers,
    Mike

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Stellar Darkness BBS (21:4/162)
  • From Nodoka Hanamura@21:2/106 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 09:22:28 2019
    On 30 Oct 2019, Manu said the following...

    hi all

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback

    I run mine on a spare iMac I have, running Linux Mint 18.1 Serena. It's a old one that isn't that reliable. You have nothing to lose if you run it off a physical machine, but if you need to, a VM is also a viable option.

    Born too late to experience the scene.
    Born just in time to see it come back.
    Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: NeoCincinnati BBS (21:2/106)
  • From dragonmaster@21:1/149 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 15:07:10 2019

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?


    Hi Manu,

    my mystic-bbs runs on a raspberry pi 3 b+ with an 1.5TB USB-HDD.
    The Pi 3 can boot from USB, so no microSD-Card is needed.
    To the Pi is a 3.5" HDMI-LCD. connected.
    This setup consumes around 7 Watts of power.

    Best Regards,
    Dragonmaster

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: XIONUM-BBS (21:1/149)
  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 08:21:42 2019
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I run mine in a cloud VM on digitalocean. To me, it basically just feels like
    a linux server that I ssh into and do all my configuration from there. I
    don't like running stuff on my own hardware and being forced to let incoming connections into my own house's firewall :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Vk3jed on Wed Oct 30 14:59:54 2019
    I run 2 BBSs on a Banana Pi, and a third on an old netbook.

    How do you differentiate between the BBSs upon connection? Different ports?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Argos on Wed Oct 30 15:01:22 2019
    on the DEV Mystic side first. Then once I get what i am doing running ( Doors and such ) I will do the same procedure on the production side. I document allot :)

    Wow, that sounds amazingly professional for BBSs.

    About as close as I get is having hidden/access-restricted menu options until
    I figure out whether or not what I'm doing will blow everything up.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to dragonmaster on Wed Oct 30 15:08:38 2019
    To the Pi is a 3.5" HDMI-LCD. connected.
    This setup consumes around 7 Watts of power.

    I kinda want to build that sort of a system entirely for the point of making
    a post-apocalypse BBS that could run on a battery/solar power combination. Along with whatever wireless option people comes out of Avon's discussions on the topic.

    Mind you, it'd probably only work for a couple of years post-apocalypse, but the concept appeals to me for the idea of having a couple of units set up at
    a post-apocalyptic LARP that I've attended.

    Though I'm kinda blanking on how one would make them Mad Max-themed.

    Still, idea is going on the ideas list.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Manu on Wed Oct 30 19:17:24 2019
    On 30 Oct 2019, Manu said the following...

    hi all

    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I'm thinking of setting mine up on a VM ?
    and would like your feedback


    I am running mine inside a Virtual Box, I originally had it on regular
    hardware then had an issue with a Windows 10 update and put it inside a VBox with Win7, eventually I moved up to Win 10 again. On my computer a p3 3.5ghz
    I have 3 Virtual Boxes (yes a bit overkill) I have one running the BBS, the
    2nd one runs my GameSvr, BBS FileServer, BBS BBSListServer. And I have taken
    my LoginServer offline for now. The 3rd VBox I have is setup for a SynchroNet BBS I used to run but right now sits in Limbo and I use it to test doors or mods I want to make to my main BBS.. My original plans were to have a VBox
    for each of my BBS' (I currently am running 5 yea I am crazy) but I decided
    the Emulated BBS' (CNet Amiga, Commodore Image BBS') didn't need to be run inside VBoxes, instead I picked up PC's from eBay for on average $30 each so each board has it's own PC..

    Thats my overkill setup, when I finally build my RackServer I will move everything into Virtual Machines on that and do away with the PC's..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Thu Oct 31 12:29:00 2019
    On 10-30-19 14:59, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I run 2 BBSs on a Banana Pi, and a third on an old netbook.

    How do you differentiate between the BBSs upon connection? Different ports?

    Different IPs. :)


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    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Vk3jed on Wed Oct 30 19:27:18 2019
    How do you differentiate between the BBSs upon connection? Different ports?

    Different IPs. :)

    You and your fancy having more than one IP address. :)

    Nice, though. I imagine not a solution for me unless I put a second BBS in a place other than a computer on my home network.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Thu Oct 31 13:58:00 2019
    On 10-30-19 19:27, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You and your fancy having more than one IP address. :)

    Yeah I gota/29 routed via an OpenVPN tunnel. It's led to an odd situation where my IPv6 is native and IPv4 tunneled. :)

    Nice, though. I imagine not a solution for me unless I put a second BBS
    in a place other than a computer on my home network.

    Yeah dunno if you can find a suitable tunnel provider for your part of the world.


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  • From buanzo@21:2/161 to Manu on Tue Mar 3 11:58:26 2020
    On 30 Oct 2019, Manu said the following...
    I would like to know are you running your bbs are you running it on a Virtual Box System and what is your setup like?

    I run mine on a dedicated server in a datacenter. I am trying to find a datacenter that offers modems and dial in service... but that probably does
    not exist right?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: DaRK Game BBS (21:2/161)