Howdy,

I've tried changing the screen length to a number > 24 (used 43 50) (in user settings), and in conjuction with both syncterm and iterm (I'm on a mac), but nothing changed. While syncterm rendered a 80x43,50 terminal mystic only took up 24 lines.

What doesnt that change anything?

The reason I did it was to get to new text on long posts. I'm currently traveling, so checking into my BBS to read mail is sometimes slow - and scrolling down the page (one line at a time) is becoming painful :(

Is is possible to "page down"?

...deon

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The reason I did it was to get to new text on long posts. I'm currently traveling, so checking into my BBS to read mail is sometimes slow - and scrolling down the page (one line at a time) is becoming painful :(

Is is possible to "page down"?

If you want to make a bigger theme you have to make templates for a bigger theme. But it might just be worth waiting for me to do the new theme system before doing that. I will probably be including some other sized themes at some point, its just a matter of time to get it all done.

As far as page down, you can use the page up/down keys, or press enter, or if you're using a compatible terminal you can use the mouse wheel.

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Is is possible to "page down"?

I've been using page down, that has always just worked out of the box as far
as I can tell??

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On 02 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

If you want to make a bigger theme you have to make templates for a
bigger theme. But it might just be worth waiting for me to do the new

Oh, its a theme setting? What does the user option lines per page do?

As far as page down, you can use the page up/down keys, or press enter,
or if you're using a compatible terminal you can use the mouse wheel.

I'm on a MAC - no page up/down :(

I didnt know about ENTER - and great it does advance a page at a time :) How
do you page back? Shift/Control/Option ENTER seem to still progress forward :(

...deon

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On 02 Mar 2019, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

I've been using page down, that has always just worked out of the box as far as I can tell??

Yeah, MAC's dont have a page up/down... Their might be a shift/option/control sequence to do it, just not sure what it is.

Enter does progress forward though :)

...deon

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Yeah, MAC's dont have a page up/down... Their might be a shift/option/control sequence to do it, just not sure what it is.

Enter does progress forward though :)

I use a Macbook Pro, the key for pgUp/pgDn is fn+up or fn+dn =)

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Oh, its a theme setting? What does the user option lines per page do?

Thats how many lines per page there are. But when your are dealing with a "full screen" function built on ANSI templates, you have to build ANSI templates to fit each screen size you want to use it with.

If you use a traditional "classic" style BBS message reader / file lister (not the one where you scroll through content in a Window as Mystic can do both) then your message/file listing text will fill up the 50 lines. But then you won't be able to scroll around in the message.

I'm on a MAC - no page up/down :(

Ahh a Mac okay. You still have page down and up you just have to hold the function key and then up or down arrow I think and that will be your page up and down. What client are you using to connect to the BBS?

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MeaTLoTioN wrote to deon <=-

I use a Macbook Pro, the key for pgUp/pgDn is fn+up or fn+dn =)

Well how about that :) Thanks I'll give that a try.

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g00r00 wrote to deon <=-

If you use a traditional "classic" style BBS message reader / file
lister (not the one where you scroll through content in a Window as
Mystic can do both) then your message/file listing text will fill up
the 50 lines. But then you won't be able to scroll around in the
message.

Ahh, OK, got it.

Ahh a Mac okay. You still have page down and up you just have to hold
the function key and then up or down arrow I think and that will be
your page up and down. What client are you using to connect to the
BBS?

Well that I never knew - thanks :) Do you happen to know the equivalent for Insert? I have in the past googled that one, and it appears there isnt a consistent answer. (And I have tried fn-enter, sh-fn-enter with mixed results.)

I mostly use syncterm, but sometimes I use iterm.

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On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

MeaTLoTioN wrote to deon <=-

I use a Macbook Pro, the key for pgUp/pgDn is fn+up or fn+dn =)

Well how about that :) Thanks I'll give that a try.

Hahaha, hope it works out for you. I use a 2012 Pro Retina 15" as my daily driver... I prefer using linux however Mac OS X is *nix so it works for me
and I kinda like some of the "Mac" features too o.O

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Well that I never knew - thanks :) Do you happen to know the equivalent for Insert? I have in the past googled that one, and it appears there
isnt a consistent answer. (And I have tried fn-enter, sh-fn-enter with mixed results.)

To switch to Insert mode, hit CTRL+V - works in SyncTERM for me =)

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Well that I never knew - thanks :) Do you happen to know the equivalent for Insert? I have in the past googled that one, and it appears there
isnt a consistent answer. (And I have tried fn-enter, sh-fn-enter with mixed results.)

I mostly use syncterm, but sometimes I use iterm.

Off the top of my head I do not know what insert might be but with Mystic you can use CTRL+V to toggle insert in the editors. I'd have to load up my macOS to play around and I don't have time at the moment.

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Hahaha, hope it works out for you. I use a 2012 Pro Retina 15" as my
daily driver... I prefer using linux however Mac OS X is *nix so it
works for me and I kinda like some of the "Mac" features too o.O

I like MacOS a lot... if only it had a better package management system and programming for it were a little easier to get started with. I've had nothing but issues with brew in the past. If I could get where I needed to be as easily as I could with Ubuntu I'd love it.

I've always been a real big fan of its clean aesthetics and I still love the zooming launcher at the bottom. Even though thats not default I still use it on the system that I use to write Mystic for Mac on.

It also needs a damn port of DOSEMU too!

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To switch to Insert mode, hit CTRL+V - works in SyncTERM for me =)

I yield to the Mac experts here! You keep beating me to the punch lol

I will have to put up a copy of NetRunner for OSX for you one of these days. I am pretty sure the really old NetRunner 1.x for OSX is still on the website somewhere but I have no idea if that still works or works well at all.

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On 02 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

I like MacOS a lot... if only it had a better package management system

I hear you, brew is ok when it works, wish you could use apt lol.

and programming for it were a little easier to get started with. I've

I've never tried programming for a Mac specifically, although I do my development stuff on it, it's using vim and I usually do it connected to a server somewhere when I do it lol, so not really actually "on the Mac"

I've always been a real big fan of its clean aesthetics and I still love the zooming launcher at the bottom. Even though thats not default I
still use it on the system that I use to write Mystic for Mac on.

Have you tried Elementary OS? It's a Mac-clone Linux distro, even with the zooming launcher. I too use the zooming launcher and am a fan of the clean aesthetics too.

It also needs a damn port of DOSEMU too!

I use DOSBOX on the Mac - works pretty well for me, never tried DOSEMU, are there any advantages of DOSEMU over DOSBOX I wonder?

I managed to get TCP/IP over IPX/SPX working in it some time ago and played a linked game of DOOM on it with a friend over the Internet, that was a lot of fun =)

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On 02 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

To switch to Insert mode, hit CTRL+V - works in SyncTERM for me =)

I yield to the Mac experts here! You keep beating me to the punch lol

Haha no expert but do know my way around a keyboard o.O =)

I will have to put up a copy of NetRunner for OSX for you one of these days. I am pretty sure the really old NetRunner 1.x for OSX is still on the website somewhere but I have no idea if that still works or works
well at all.

Ooh yes that would be great... I'd love to play with it on my Mac. Am I right in thinking that NetRunner does have SSH capability? I had a play with it on
my Linux laptop but couldn't find how to enable it for a BBS, I didn't
spend too much time looking though as my BBS (which I used to test NetRunner out with) has Telnet too, so was connected using that.

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are there any advantages of DOSEMU over DOSBOX I wonder?

DOSBox emulates the CPU, which gives it the advantage of being able to
emulate an entire retro-machine -- say, a vintage '386 CPU with Hercules graphics.

DOSEMU doesn't do CPU emulation so it requires an x86 CPU on the host. In theory, this makes DOSEMU faster (though on modern hardware, who can tell the difference?), but also less portable. Probably as a result, I find DOSEMU
uses fewer CPU cycles -- often around 1-5% while DOSBox consumes perhaps 20%.

DOSBox is easier to set up -- just install and run; DOSEMU requires some configuration and mucking about with ini files (and may need to be compiled
for your system). DOSBox is targeted towards games, so generally has better games compatibility. DOSEMU might be better for other stuff, like development work.

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I like MacOS a lot... if only it had a better package management syst

I hear you, brew is ok when it works, wish you could use apt lol.

Some if it might be my lack of experience with the OS in general though, but I've had issues where it just couldn't update itself. And I would Google and find a lot of people with the same issue and not real resolution.

I've never tried programming for a Mac specifically, although I do my development stuff on it, it's using vim and I usually do it connected to
a server somewhere when I do it lol, so not really actually "on the Mac"

I can be up and compiling Free Pascal code in about two command lines on Ubuntu 64-bit. In MacOS it took me hours and hours of trial and error and registering for a developers account and all sorts of bullshit before I could get something compiled. So that is kind of where I am coming from.

As far as development of the OS API I have no idea how difficult it is but
you are mostly forced to use Objective-C I think if you want Apple to support your software in the store.

Have you tried Elementary OS? It's a Mac-clone Linux distro, even with
the zooming launcher. I too use the zooming launcher and am a fan of the clean aesthetics too.

I have tried it and I do like it except that they wall off the terminal with zero options and thats an instant deal breaker for me. They managed to make it even worse than Terminal.App which used to be pretty damn featureless too (and the reason why things like ITERM exist).

You really have to try hard to take a full featured open sourced terminal and make it as unflexible as the terminal in ElementaryOS. Makes me so annoyed
(if you can't tell lol)

I use DOSBOX on the Mac - works pretty well for me, never tried DOSEMU, are there any advantages of DOSEMU over DOSBOX I wonder?

DOSEMU would allow us to run native DOS doors on a multinode MacOS BBS. DOSBOX cannot be used (effectively) in a similar way. Maybe vDos (a DOSBOX hack) will allow us someday.

I managed to get TCP/IP over IPX/SPX working in it some time ago and played a linked game of DOOM on it with a friend over the Internet, that was a lot of fun =)

Awesome!

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Ooh yes that would be great... I'd love to play with it on my Mac. Am I right in thinking that NetRunner does have SSH capability? I had a play

Yes it can do SSH and RLOGIN in addition to Telnet. If I get some time over the next couple of weeks I'll try to get a MacOS version compiled for you, although you will need to install SDL2 which I think was one of those things
I struggled with when I used brew.

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On 03-02-19 23:29, g00r00 wrote to MeaTLoTioN <=-

Hahaha, hope it works out for you. I use a 2012 Pro Retina 15" as my
daily driver... I prefer using linux however Mac OS X is *nix so it
works for me and I kinda like some of the "Mac" features too o.O

I like MacOS a lot... if only it had a better package management system and programming for it were a little easier to get started with. I've
had nothing but issues with brew in the past. If I could get where I needed to be as easily as I could with Ubuntu I'd love it.

MacOS is nice, but yes when I ran it, I found the same issues with regards to package management.

I've always been a real big fan of its clean aesthetics and I still
love the zooming launcher at the bottom. Even though thats not default
I still use it on the system that I use to write Mystic for Mac on.

I liked those features as well.

It also needs a damn port of DOSEMU too!

YES!!!


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On 02 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

I like MacOS a lot... if only it had a better package management system and programming for it were a little easier to get started with. I've
had nothing but issues with brew in the past. If I could get where I

I've not had problems with brew - although I only install "tools" with it,
not compilers and the such. Any dev work I do, I do in docker on the MAC and
it works a treat. (And since docker on the mac is Intel Linux, you can ran
your favourite linux - albeit only in non-gui mode.)

It also needs a damn port of DOSEMU too!

I've used QEMU on the mac - not a great deal but it worked OK...

...deon

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On 02 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

I will have to put up a copy of NetRunner for OSX for you one of these days. I am pretty sure the really old NetRunner 1.x for OSX is still on the website somewhere but I have no idea if that still works or works
well at all.

I'm hanging out for it :)

I did try netrunner a long time ago and couldnt get it to work. Dont remember what the problem was...

...deon

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I'm hanging out for it :)

I did try netrunner a long time ago and couldnt get it to work. Dont remember what the problem was...

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/nrun102x.rar

There is a really old version there but it doesn't run in UTF8 so it'd probably have to run inside an ITerm window for it to be useful at all. That was a compile of the old 1.x version that was written back around 1999 I think.

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On 03 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/nrun102x.rar

So I just tried this - no go :(

Deons-MacBook-Pro:x deon$ ./netrunner
Killed: 9

...deon

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On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

On 03 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/nrun102x.rar

So I just tried this - no go :(

Deons-MacBook-Pro:x deon$ ./netrunner
Killed: 9

Same here ='(

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http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/nrun102x.rar

So I just tried this - no go :(

Deons-MacBook-Pro:x deon$ ./netrunner

Working fine here on my El Capitan box. Did Apple stop allowing 32-bit applications to run? I am assuming you're using the latest OSX? This is probably compiled for Intel 32-bit OSX with a really old version of XCode seeing that its like 7 years old.

This isn't anything like the modern 2.x versions of NetRunner anyway.

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On 03 Mar 2019, g00r00 said the following...

Working fine here on my El Capitan box. Did Apple stop allowing 32-bit applications to run? I am assuming you're using the latest OSX? This is probably compiled for Intel 32-bit OSX with a really old version of XCode seeing that its like 7 years old.

Yes, I'm running Mojave - and according to Apple's website, it is the last version of OSX to run 32 bit apps.

Normally, when a 32 bit app runs, you get a "not optimised" popup. But with netrunner it is killed instantly.

I found the crash report and it has:

Termination Reason: EXEC, [0xc] This UPX compressed binary contains an invalid Mach-O header and cannot be loaded.

Mean anything?

...deon

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On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

Termination Reason: EXEC, [0xc] This UPX compressed binary contains an invalid Mach-O header and cannot be loaded.

Mean anything?

So I downloaded upx (brew install upx) and decompressed netrunning and it
works :)

...deon

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On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

So I downloaded upx (brew install upx) and decompressed netrunning and it works :)

Dont know how to use it - need an INSERT key to add to the phonebook (and CTRL-V) doesnt work :(

...deon

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On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

On 03 Mar 2019, deon said the following...

Termination Reason: EXEC, [0xc] This UPX compressed binary contain invalid Mach-O header and cannot be loaded.

Mean anything?

So I downloaded upx (brew install upx) and decompressed netrunning and it works :)

hmmmmm

I just did exactly that, "brew install upx" and it installed, then unrar'd netrunner and ran it, and got...

Killed: 9

Boooooo!

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|14Best regards,
|11Ch|03rist|11ia|15n |11a|03ka |11Me|03aTLoT|11io|15N

|07ÄÄ |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07ÄÄ |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07ÄÄÄ¿ |07ÄÄ |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07ÄÄ |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07ÂÄÄÙ |07ÄÄ |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07ÄÄ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07ÄÄÄÙ

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)

Here's the crash output...

Christians-MBP:~ christian$ cat ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/netrunner_2019-03-03-130027_Christians-MacBook -Pro.crash

Process: netrunner [4733]
Path: /Users/USER/Downloads/*/netrunner
Identifier: netrunner
Version: ???
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: bash [2295]
Responsible: netrunner [4733]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2019-03-03 13:00:27.209 +0000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.14.3 (18D109)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 167FA537-FD56-C17A-DC89-583066320CBE

Sleep/Wake UUID: BA654206-CFDA-4CD3-A6A6-01DC33505B7D

Time Awake Since Boot: 24000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 1300 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGKILL)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Reason: EXEC, [0xc] This UPX compressed binary contains an invalid Mach-O header and cannot be loaded.

Application Specific Information:
dyld3 mode
crashed on child side of fork pre-exec

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff732aba4e execve + 10
1 bash 0x0000000108bd554f 0x108bb5000 + 132431
2 bash 0x0000000108bd4b90 0x108bb5000 + 129936
3 bash 0x0000000108bd1d0c 0x108bb5000 + 118028
4 bash 0x0000000108bd1958 0x108bb5000 + 117080
5 bash 0x0000000108bb7a2c 0x108bb5000 + 10796
6 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff73153ed9 start + 1

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x000000000000000d rbx: 0x0000000000000001 rcx: 0x00007ffee704a3c8 rdx: 0x00007fd3e2f00450
rdi: 0x00007fd3e2c043b0 rsi: 0x00007fd3e2f00cc0 rbp: 0x00007ffee704a4f0 rsp: 0x00007ffee704a3c8
r8: 0x0000000000000007 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000108c420d8 r11: 0x0000000000000202
r12: 0x00007fd3e2f00cc0 r13: 0x00007fd3e2c043b0 r14: 0x00007fd3e2e04210 r15: 0x00007fd3e2c043b0
rip: 0x00007fff732aba4e rfl: 0x0000000000000203 cr2: 0x0000000108c420d8

Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x0200003b
Trap Number: 133


Binary Images:
0x108bb5000 - 0x108c36ffb bash (106.220.2) <0AAE35A4-8549-3EA9-8AF3-2C1F30F8A70B> /bin/bash
0x10ba65000 - 0x10bae3a87 dyld (655.1) <3EBA447F-A546-366B-B302-8DC3B21A3E30> /usr/lib/dyld
0x7fff7054f000 - 0x7fff70550ffb libSystem.B.dylib (1252.200.5) <C6201660-5E17-397D-BA21-C503420CD706> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x7fff70829000 - 0x7fff70880ff7 libc++.1.dylib (400.9.4) <B260AC33-EB9A-30C6-8746-D011B3B02B08> /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib
0x7fff70881000 - 0x7fff70896fff libc++abi.dylib (400.17) <446F4748-8A89-3D2E-AE1C-27EEBE93A8AB> /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib
0x7fff71aba000 - 0x7fff71aeaff7 libncurses.5.4.dylib (53.200.3) <2B715386-F391-3835-909F-A6DD86DCB4E3> /usr/lib/libncurses.5.4.dylib
0x7fff72077000 - 0x7fff72800fd7 libobjc.A.dylib (750.1) <4D6C889C-60F4-3028-9B13-DD3DFE6A2A44> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x7fff72fd5000 - 0x7fff72fd9ff3 libcache.dylib (81) <704331AC-E43D-343A-8C24-39201142AF27> /usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib
0x7fff72fda000 - 0x7fff72fe4ff3 libcommonCrypto.dylib (60118.220.1) <9C865644-EE9A-3662-AB77-7C8A5E561784> /usr/lib/system/libcommonCrypto.dylib
0x7fff72fe5000 - 0x7fff72fecfff libcompiler_rt.dylib (63.4) <817772E3-E836-3FFD-A39B-BDCD1C357221> /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib
0x7fff72fed000 - 0x7fff72ff6ff3 libcopyfile.dylib (146.200.3) <5C5C4F35-DAB7-3CF1-940F-F47192AB8289> /usr/lib/system/libcopyfile.dylib
0x7fff72ff7000 - 0x7fff7307bfdf libcorecrypto.dylib (602.230.1) <C78D1A87-5543-3561-BEB4-3B480BA94ECB> /usr/lib/system/libcorecrypto.dylib
0x7fff73102000 - 0x7fff7313cff7 libdispatch.dylib (1008.220.2) <2FDB1401-5119-3DF0-91F5-F4E105F00CD7> /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib
0x7fff7313d000 - 0x7fff7316cff3 libdyld.dylib (655.1) <90C801E7-5D05-37A8-810C-B58E8C53953A> /usr/lib/system/libdyld.dylib
0x7fff7316d000 - 0x7fff7316dffb libkeymgr.dylib (30) <A4EFD9A4-2EF3-3E18-B325-F527E3821939> /usr/lib/system/libkeymgr.dylib
0x7fff7317b000 - 0x7fff7317bff7 liblaunch.dylib (1336.240.2) <D5F0014D-CF46-3B04-9DE0-A1466DA14A2C> /usr/lib/system/liblaunch.dylib
0x7fff7317c000 - 0x7fff73181fff libmacho.dylib (921) <6ADB99F3-D142-3A0A-B3CE-031354766ACC> /usr/lib/system/libmacho.dylib
0x7fff73182000 - 0x7fff73184ffb libquarantine.dylib (86.220.1) <58524FD7-63C5-38E0-9D90-845A79551C14> /usr/lib/system/libquarantine.dylib
0x7fff73185000 - 0x7fff73186ff3 libremovefile.dylib (45.200.2) <BA53CA8A-9974-3A43-9265-B110B1AE470F> /usr/lib/system/libremovefile.dylib
0x7fff73187000 - 0x7fff7319eff3 libsystem_asl.dylib (356.200.4) <33C62769-1242-3BC1-9459-13CBCDECC7FE> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_asl.dylib
0x7fff7319f000 - 0x7fff7319ffff libsystem_blocks.dylib (73) <152EDADF-7D94-35F2-89B7-E66DCD945BBA> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_blocks.dylib
0x7fff731a0000 - 0x7fff73228fff libsystem_c.dylib (1272.200.26) <D6C701A2-9F17-308D-B6AC-9E17EF31B7DF> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib
0x7fff73229000 - 0x7fff7322cff7 libsystem_configuration.dylib (963.200.27) <94898525-ECC8-3CC9-B312-CBEAAC305E32> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_configuration.dylib
0x7fff7322d000 - 0x7fff73230ff7 libsystem_coreservices.dylib (66) <10818C17-70E1-328E-A3E3-C3EB81AEC590> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_coreservices.dylib
0x7fff73231000 - 0x7fff73237ffb libsystem_darwin.dylib (1272.200.26) <07468CF7-982F-37C4-83D0-D5E602A683AA> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_darwin.dylib
0x7fff73238000 - 0x7fff7323eff7 libsystem_dnssd.dylib (878.240.1) <5FEA5E1E-E80F-3616-AD33-8E936D61F31A> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_dnssd.dylib
0x7fff7323f000 - 0x7fff7328bff3 libsystem_info.dylib (517.200.9) <54B65F21-2E93-3579-9B72-6637A03245D9> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_info.dylib
0x7fff7328c000 - 0x7fff732b4ff7 libsystem_kernel.dylib (4903.241.1) <CA10BC3A-5B09-32CE-B74F-BAD01755AA37> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x7fff732b5000 - 0x7fff73300ff7 libsystem_m.dylib (3158.200.7) <AF25F8E8-194C-314F-A2D3-A424853EE796> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_m.dylib
0x7fff73301000 - 0x7fff73325ff7 libsystem_malloc.dylib (166.220.1) <4777DC06-F9C6-356E-82AB-86A1C6D62F3A> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_malloc.dylib
0x7fff73326000 - 0x7fff73331ff3 libsystem_networkextension.dylib (767.240.1) <4DB0D4A2-83E7-3638-AAA0-39CECD5C25F8> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_networkextension.dylib
0x7fff73332000 - 0x7fff73339fff libsystem_notify.dylib (172.200.21) <65B3061D-41D7-3485-B217-A861E05AD50B> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_notify.dylib
0x7fff7333a000 - 0x7fff73343fef libsystem_platform.dylib
(177.200.16) <83DED753-51EC-3B8C-A98D-883A5184086B> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_platform.dylib
0x7fff73344000 - 0x7fff7334efff libsystem_pthread.dylib (330.230.1) <80CC5992-823E-327E-BB6E-9D4568B84161> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib
0x7fff7334f000 - 0x7fff73352ff7 libsystem_sandbox.dylib (851.230.3) <D6469A17-C13C-3538-A300-D6517BB7F249> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_sandbox.dylib
0x7fff73353000 - 0x7fff73355ff3 libsystem_secinit.dylib (30.220.1) <5964B6D2-19D4-3CF9-BDBC-4EB1D42348F1> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_secinit.dylib
0x7fff73356000 - 0x7fff7335dff7 libsystem_symptoms.dylib (820.237.2) <487E1794-4C6E-3B1B-9C55-95B1A5FF9B90>
/usr/lib/system/libsystem_symptoms.dylib
0x7fff7335e000 - 0x7fff73373ff7 libsystem_trace.dylib (906.220.1) <4D4BA88A-FA32-379D-8860-33838723B35F> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_trace.dylib
0x7fff73375000 - 0x7fff7337affb libunwind.dylib (35.4) <EF1A77FD-A86B-39F5-ABEA-6100AB23583A> /usr/lib/system/libunwind.dylib
0x7fff7337b000 - 0x7fff733abfff libxpc.dylib (1336.240.2) <EE0CDA53-6FF9-3B4E-A571-335A5FF6B6F4> /usr/lib/system/libxpc.dylib

External Modification Summary:
Calls made by other processes targeting this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by this process:
task_for_pid: 0
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0
Calls made by all processes on this machine:
task_for_pid: 12124
thread_create: 0
thread_set_state: 0

VM Region Summary:
ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=228.6M resident=0K(0%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=228.6M(100%)
Writable regions: Total=56.1M written=0K(0%) resident=0K(0%)
swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=56.1M(100%)

VIRTUAL REGION
REGION TYPE SIZE COUNT (non-coalesced)
=========== ======= =======
Kernel Alloc Once 8K 2
MALLOC 48.1M 10
MALLOC guard page 16K 5
STACK GUARD 56.0M 2
Stack 8192K 2
__DATA 2320K 40
__LINKEDIT 216.1M 4
__TEXT 12.4M 41
shared memory 12K 4
=========== ======= =======
TOTAL 342.9M 101

Christians-MBP:~ christian$


Just reinstalled upx...

Christians-MBP:nrun102x (1) christian$ brew install upx
Warning: upx 3.95_1 is already installed and up-to-date
To reinstall 3.95_1, run `brew reinstall upx`

Christians-MBP:nrun102x (1) christian$ brew reinstall upx

Reinstalling upx
Downloading

https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/upx-3.95_1.mojave.bottle.tar.gz
Already downloaded: /Users/christian/Library/Caches/Homebrew/downloads/66f57d6d656d13751a793d3dcf03 a1ddd035ca6b5a6c1cf4deef3cd89eb88ca4--upx-3.95_1.mojave.bottle.tar.gz

Pouring upx-3.95_1.mojave.bottle.tar.gz

🺠/usr/local/Cellar/upx/3.95_1: 8 files, 1.9MB

Christians-MBP:nrun102x (1) christian$ ./netrunner
Killed: 9


BOOO!!!!!

I'll wait for the latest version for my Mac... I'm patient as I am quite used to SyncTERM so that will suffice for now.

---
|14Best regards,
|11Ch|03rist|11ia|15n |11a|03ka |11Me|03aTLoT|11io|15N

|07ÄÄ |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07ÄÄ |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07ÄÄÄ¿ |07ÄÄ |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07ÄÄ |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07ÂÄÄÙ |07ÄÄ |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07ÄÄ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07ÄÄÄÙ

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)

Termination Reason: EXEC, [0xc] This UPX compressed binary contains an invalid Mach-O header and cannot be loaded.

UPX is like ZIP for binary files. If you install upx you can probably unupx
it and maybe it will run. Probably "brew install upx" will work.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

I just did exactly that, "brew install upx" and it installed, then
unrar'd netrunner and ran it, and got...

Did you unupx it?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)

On 03 Mar 2019, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

I just did exactly that, "brew install upx" and it installed, then
unrar'd netrunner and ran it, and got...

unrar the rar archive, it will extract netrunner, then you need to use "upx -d netrunner"

...deon

_--_|\ | Deon George
/ \ | Chinwag BBS - A BBS on a PI in Docker!
\_.__.*/ |
V | Coming from the 'burbs of Melbourne, Australia

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/27 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Chinwag | MysticBBS in Docker on a Pi! (21:2/116.1)

Did you unupx it?

D'oh!

---
|14Best regards,
|11Ch|03rist|11ia|15n |11a|03ka |11Me|03aTLoT|11io|15N

|07ÄÄ |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07ÄÄ |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07ÄÄÄ¿ |07ÄÄ |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07ÄÄ |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07ÂÄÄÙ |07ÄÄ |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07ÄÄ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07ÄÄÄÙ

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)