Hi All,

I was looking at upgrading my experimental Mystic setup to the new
pre-release of Mystic. According to the upgrade instructions, it says:

- Copy "cfgroot4.ans" from the DATA folder into your DATA folder

In the Linux 64bit install of A40, I'm not seeing this cfgroot4.ans file. I
see cfgroot.ans, cfgroot1.ans, cfgroot2.ans, and cfgroot3.ans...

Anyone else run into this?


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Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Linux/64)
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On 12/09/18, Black Panther pondered and said...

In the Linux 64bit install of A40, I'm not seeing this cfgroot4.ans
file. I see cfgroot.ans, cfgroot1.ans, cfgroot2.ans, and cfgroot3.ans...

Anyone else run into this?

I am yet to get home, but at the time I had no upgrade info when I shifted so
I winged it. Will check the build tonight and see :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/07 (Windows/32)
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In the Linux 64bit install of A40, I'm not seeing this cfgroot4.ans
file. I see cfgroot.ans, cfgroot1.ans, cfgroot2.ans, and cfgroot3.ans...

Yep I forgot to put it in the DATA folder but I've since fixed it in later builds. It isn't going to cause any major issues if it is missing just that the "Turbo Vision" theme won't display right if you select it.

You can just copy it over later.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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On 12/10/18, g00r00 said the following...

In the Linux 64bit install of A40, I'm not seeing this cfgroot4.ans file. I see cfgroot.ans, cfgroot1.ans, cfgroot2.ans, and cfgroot3.ans

Yep I forgot to put it in the DATA folder but I've since fixed it in
later builds. It isn't going to cause any major issues if it is missing just that the "Turbo Vision" theme won't display right if you select it.

Just downloaded the latest, and it did have the file. I've got it now! ;)

Thank you, Sir!


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Black Panther
aka Dan Richter
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
The sparrows are flying again...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/10 (Linux/64)
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On 12/10/18, Black Panther pondered and said...

Just downloaded the latest, and it did have the file. I've got it now! ;)

Morning/evening to you... :) Testing some stuff now.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/11/18, Avon said the following...

Just downloaded the latest, and it did have the file. I've got it now

Morning/evening to you... :) Testing some stuff now.

How's it working on your end? I was a little leery to upgrade CRBBS with the password issues in the first release. Any problems that should keep me from trying it?

I've been a gluten for punishment lately... :)


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Black Panther(RCS)
a.k.a. Dan Richter
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
The sparrows are flying again....

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)

On 12/11/18, Black Panther pondered and said...

How's it working on your end? I was a little leery to upgrade CRBBS with the password issues in the first release. Any problems that should keep
me from trying it?

There's been a crash each night for the last two builds but so far so good
for this one. Passwords, hard to say. I have a user asking for a reset today but I am unsure if it's related or not. I did apply the latest password patch to the BBS as per g00r00's suggestion. So that may have fixed things, unsure.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

How's it working on your end? I was a little leery to upgrade CRBBS with the password issues in the first release. Any problems that should keep
me from trying it?

Can you spin up a VM and duplicate CRBBS on it... you can do all the testing you like and find the flaws specific to your setup.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Fusion BBS ~ Newcastle, Australia (21:4/132)

On 12/12/18, Avon said the following...

There's been a crash each night for the last two builds but so far so
good for this one. Passwords, hard to say. I have a user asking for a reset today but I am unsure if it's related or not. I did apply the
latest password patch to the BBS as per g00r00's suggestion. So that may have fixed things, unsure.

Hmmmm, maybe I'll hold off here for a day or so. I'll try connecting to
Agency, and see if I'm able to log in.


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Black Panther(RCS)
a.k.a. Dan Richter
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
The sparrows are flying again....

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)

On 12/12/18, Michael Borthwick said the following...

How's it working on your end? I was a little leery to upgrade CRBBS w the password issues in the first release. Any problems that should ke me from trying it?

Can you spin up a VM and duplicate CRBBS on it... you can do all the testing you like and find the flaws specific to your setup.

That's not a bad idea... I've got a few VMs set up on here already... Thank you!


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Black Panther(RCS)
a.k.a. Dan Richter
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
The sparrows are flying again....

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)

On 2018-12-11 18:28:00 +0000, Black Panther said:

Passwords, hard to say. I have a user asking for a
reset today but I am unsure if it's related or not. I did apply the latest password patch to the BBS as per g00r00's suggestion. So that may have fixed things, unsure.

Hmmmm, maybe I'll hold off here for a day or so. I'll try connecting to Agency, and see if I'm able to log in.

I'll try too... intrested to test too.

--- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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On 2018-12-12 01:41:00 +0000, Satchmo said:

On 2018-12-11 18:28:00 +0000, Black Panther said:

Passwords, hard to say. I have a user asking for a
reset today but I am unsure if it's related or not. I did apply the
latest password patch to the BBS as per g00r00's suggestion. So that may >> Av> have fixed things, unsure.

Hmmmm, maybe I'll hold off here for a day or so. I'll try connecting to
Agency, and see if I'm able to log in.

I'll try too... intrested to test too.

--- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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Yep quite an odd one.

Logged in as my "satchmo" user on agency. Input my password, got the
"invalid password" message. Tried again, same thing. Hit enter it
logged me in anyway! :-/

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On 12/12/18, Satchmo pondered and said...

Logged in as my "satchmo" user on agency. Input my password, got the "invalid password" message. Tried again, same thing. Hit enter it
logged me in anyway! :-/

That is helpful, it tells me there is still an issue. I will need to have another crack at resolving this tonight :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/12/18, Satchmo pondered and said...

Logged in as my "satchmo" user on agency. Input my password, got "invalid password" message. Tried again, same thing. Hit enter it logged me in anyway! :-/

That is helpful, it tells me there is still an issue. I will need to
have another crack at resolving this tonight :)

Ah yeah. There may be a problem - I just logged into agency as satchmo, I
just hit enter at the password prompt and it let me in.

When I did it as apam, It said invalid password and didn't let me in.

Andrew

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On 12/12/18, Avon pondered and said...

That is helpful, it tells me there is still an issue. I will need to have another crack at resolving this tonight :)

I was able to log in with no problems... Strange...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/12/18, apam pondered and said...

Ah yeah. There may be a problem - I just logged into agency as satchmo, I just hit enter at the password prompt and it let me in.

apollo 13 this is houston... stand by... :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/12/18, Avon pondered and said...

That is helpful, it tells me there is still an issue. I will need another crack at resolving this tonight :)

I was able to log in with no problems... Strange...

So was I. Must just be some passwords and not others.

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.12alpha (Linux/x86_64)
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On 12/12/18, apam pondered and said...

Ah yeah. There may be a problem - I just logged into agency as sa
just hit enter at the password prompt and it let me in.

apollo 13 this is houston... stand by... :)

I wonder if satchmo (and anyone else with "invalid password") can log in
with an empty password then change it to something else themselves?

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.12alpha (Linux/x86_64)
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On 12/12/18, apam pondered and said...

I wonder if satchmo (and anyone else with "invalid password") can log in with an empty password then change it to something else themselves?

Something is amiss but it seems to be random. I have tried both fixes
suggested by g00r00 but it did not resolve this specific case.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

I was able to log in with no problems... Strange...

So was I. Must just be some passwords and not others.

People found and installed the pre-alphas before the upgrade had the proper password conversion.

There are instructions to place your original users.dat in and rerun the upgrade, so hopefully that would resolve any issues. Should also be running the latest build Dec 11 I think?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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On 12/12/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

There are instructions to place your original users.dat in and rerun the upgrade, so hopefully that would resolve any issues. Should also be running the latest build Dec 11 I think?

I have tried this and seemed to have issues still with an account that the problem of a blank/missing pw was picked up on. I moved copies of mystic.dat
in /mystic and also users.dat in /data over

Then ran the upgrade process also tried upgrade passwords... problem
continued with the identified account. In the end I did a manual PW reset on it. I also had to update the SMTP settings again as they went west with the mystic.dat update

I'm thinking about just setting up a mandatory password change every 45 days
to pick up these rogue issues as there's just no way to know which accounts
are impacted and which are not.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

I have tried this and seemed to have issues still with an account that
the problem of a blank/missing pw was picked up on. I moved copies of mystic.dat in /mystic and also users.dat in /data over

Would you be willing to send over your users.dat from A39 backup if you still have it? I can take a look at the process and determine exactly what is happening.

If not I totally understand. I really try to never ever ask for a users.dat because obviously it has people's information in it. (One of the benefits of the new format is no longer will it ever be possible to get a password of a user though).

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