• Hi

    From apam@21:1/222 to All on Sun May 22 13:12:00 2022
    Hello

    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    Working on my QT based QWK reader again the last few days.

    Also set up a private synchronet BBS that I'm having fun playing with. Running it on a debian VM under VMWare esxi. I bought a new (second hand) computer on ebay last night with the idea of running VMWare on it, as the one it's on presently is a bit old.

    I'm thinking with 16Gb of ram and 4 cores I should be able to run about 3 VMs at once comfortably. We'll see I guess. Might be able to upgrade it to 32Gb depending on what sort of ram it takes.

    Andrew
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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to apam on Sun May 22 08:46:43 2022
    Hello apam!

    On 22 May 2022, apam said the following...
    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but
    been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    Welcome back! =)

    All is well here, except some allergies now that the summer season is coming...

    Also set up a private synchronet BBS that I'm having fun playing with. Running it on a debian VM under VMWare esxi. I bought a new (second

    That's nice! I considered Synchronet when restarting my BBS, but had problems compiling it despite getting all the prerequisites (or so I thought), and finally switched to Mystic instead so that I could concentrate on the configuration. Which took some time to get right.

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Sun May 22 01:09:00 2022
    apam wrote to All <=-

    Hello

    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but
    been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    Good to hear from you again. Am running again on the QWK hub...rather than with a BBS because of my 5G internet. Fast...but lack of configuration blows.

    How's the family? Hope they're all okay & doing well.

    Working on my QT based QWK reader again the last few days.

    Once you get it working...would love to use it here.
    ... I'm not a complete idiot, some of the parts are missing!
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  • From apam@21:1/101 to Zip on Sun May 22 22:32:08 2022
    Welcome back! =)

    Thanks!

    All is well here, except some allergies now that the summer season is coming...

    It's been cold and wet here, with quiet a bit of flooding in the state over the last month or two.

    That's nice! I considered Synchronet when restarting my BBS, but had problems compiling it despite getting all the prerequisites (or so I thought), and finally switched to Mystic instead so that I could concentrate on the configuration. Which took some time to get right.

    Fair enough. What were you compiling it on? I chose debian because the linux instructions assume it (although it works fine on other distributions, just need to be careful as different packages on different systems)

    Been fiddling with a couple of mods today, and working on splitting up the menu to a new shell so that the main menu isn't so busy like on a stock synchronet board.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Sun May 22 22:36:22 2022
    How's the family? Hope they're all okay & doing well.

    Yeah doing good, thanks.

    Once you get it working...would love to use it here.

    It works, though it's not as feature full as something like multimail. You can grab a win32 build at:

    http://members.iinet.net.au/~apamment/

    (it's called TitanMail, and the current version is 1.1.5 as of today)

    The source is available on my gitlab. (I actually started on it in 2020 but have just recently done a bit of work on improving it)

    Andrew

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to apam on Sun May 22 07:16:11 2022
    On 22 May 2022, apam said the following...

    Hello

    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but
    been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    Welcome back Andrew!!!

    ... Intelligence tests are biased toward the literate.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to apam on Sun May 22 22:44:00 2022
    Working on my QT based QWK reader again the last few days.

    The only thing my overclocked chimp brain will associate with QT is
    QuickTime, but I can't imagine tthat being useful for a QWK reader... please elucidate..

    Spec


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to apam on Sun May 22 09:00:00 2022
    apam wrote to All <=-

    I'm thinking with 16Gb of ram and 4 cores I should be able to run about
    3 VMs at once comfortably. We'll see I guess. Might be able to upgrade
    it to 32Gb depending on what sort of ram it takes.

    I'm running Proxmox on an old i7 laptop with 4 cores and 16GB of RAM.
    I'm running a 4GB docker host running my home lab (I'm in the process
    of moving those to LXC containers), a Windows Server 2019 server, a
    couple of tester VMs I don't run all the time, and a test Ubuntu
    server running Synchronet in a test environment.

    RAM seems to be the constraint, but 2x16GM memory sticks for the
    system would cost more than the system cost me.

    If I end up working for myself, I'll upgrade to a SFF server that'll
    take more RAM, but for now, 4 cores/16GB seems to do fine as a hobby
    lab.




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  • From apam@21:1/222 to Bucko on Mon May 23 09:55:00 2022
    On Sun May 22 07:16:00 2022, Bucko wrote to apam <=-

    Welcome back Andrew!!!

    Thanks!

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  • From apam@21:1/222 to Spectre on Mon May 23 09:57:00 2022
    On Sun May 22 22:44:00 2022, Spectre wrote to apam <=-

    Working on my QT based QWK reader again the last few days.

    The only thing my overclocked chimp brain will associate with QT is QuickTime, but I can't imagine tthat being useful for a QWK reader... please elucidate..

    QT is a cross platform GUI toolkit.

    https://www.qt.io/

    Andrew

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    Andrew Pamment (apam)

    === TitanMail/linux v1.1.5


    --- Talisman v0.37-dev (Windows/x86)
    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From apam@21:1/222 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 10:04:00 2022
    On Sun May 22 09:00:00 2022, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to apam <=-

    If I end up working for myself, I'll upgrade to a SFF server that'll
    take more RAM, but for now, 4 cores/16GB seems to do fine as a hobby
    lab.

    Cool. Yeah, I'd only be able to upgrade the ram if I happened to have spare ram that would fit... Kind of hoping it has 4 slots with 2x 8Gb sticks of DDR3 then i could just take out the 2x8gb sticks i am using currently - but who knows.

    Do you have a HDD or SSD in your proxmox system?

    Andrew

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    Andrew Pamment (apam)

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    * Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to apam on Sun May 22 19:50:40 2022
    Re: Re: Hi
    By: apam to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 10:04 am

    Cool. Yeah, I'd only be able to upgrade the ram if I happened to have spare ram that would fit... Kind of hoping it has 4 slots with 2x 8Gb sticks of DDR3 then i could just take out the 2x8gb sticks i am using currently - but who knows.

    Do you have a HDD or SSD in your proxmox system?

    A Samsung 480 SSD, yes. I have a couple of Seagate Barracuda Hybrid SATA drives I'd like to try out some time - they're cheap essentially a 5400RPM drive with 4GB of cache slapped on the side.
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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to apam on Mon May 23 13:51:50 2022
    Hi Apam,

    I'm thinking with 16Gb of ram and 4 cores I should be able to run
    about 3 VMs at once comfortably. We'll see I guess. Might be able

    I was running my server on 16Gb of ram until about two months ago. It was running 5 vm's full time, one 8gb for the NAS, three at 2Gb, and the last
    at 1Gb.

    Wasn't a issue at all.

    I've now done some software upgrades (Esxi v5 to v6.5) and added another
    16Gb of ram..




    \/orlon



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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to apam on Mon May 23 11:19:54 2022
    Hello apam!

    On 22 May 2022, apam said the following...
    That's nice! I considered Synchronet when restarting my BBS, but had

    Fair enough. What were you compiling it on? I chose debian because the linux instructions assume it (although it works fine on other

    Yes, actually, I was trying it on Debian Bullseye, but never managed to get the compilation working. Oh well...

    Been fiddling with a couple of mods today, and working on splitting up
    the menu to a new shell so that the main menu isn't so busy like on a stock synchronet board.

    Yes, if I recall correctly, it is pretty massive. =)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Mon May 23 03:03:00 2022
    On Sun May 22 22:36:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    How's the family? Hope they're all okay & doing well.

    Yeah doing good, thanks.

    Fantastic!

    Once you get it working...would love to use it here.

    It works, though it's not as feature full as something like multimail. You can
    grab a win32 build at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~apamment/
    (it's called TitanMail, and the current version is 1.1.5 as of today)

    Just got it & love it! Has everything built in...rather than needing exterior programs.



    === TitanMail/winnt v1.1.5
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Mon May 23 23:42:50 2022
    Just got it & love it! Has everything built in...rather than needing exterior programs.

    Glad you like it :)

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Mon May 23 16:57:00 2022
    On Mon May 23 23:42:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Just got it & love it! Has everything built in...rather than needing exterior programs.

    Glad you like it :)

    Forgot to mention that once I found out I could load in my tagline files...SMOKIN' program!

    ... A day without sunshine is like, night
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    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Mon May 23 16:56:00 2022
    On Mon May 23 23:42:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Just got it & love it! Has everything built in...rather than needing exterior programs.

    Glad you like it :)

    Very easy to use/setup.

    With it using qt5...anyway it would run on ArcaOS with the qt5 extensions?

    ... I'm Not Suddenly a Dirty Old Man-I've Been Practicing Since 1961
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    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From apam@21:1/222 to ACMEBBS on Tue May 24 14:08:00 2022
    On Mon May 23 16:56:00 2022, ACMEBBS wrote to apam <=-

    With it using qt5...anyway it would run on ArcaOS with the qt5 extensions?

    Maybe? I have no way of trying / testing or supporting it though. The only dependency outside QT is ZLib, which I'm sure ArcaOS would have, so it might work.

    Actually it's got me wondering if it will run on Haiku, I believe they have QT ported also.

    Andrew

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Mon May 23 22:50:00 2022
    On Tue May 24 14:08:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    With it using qt5...anyway it would run on ArcaOS with the qt5 extensions?

    Maybe? I have no way of trying / testing or supporting it though. The only dependency outside QT is ZLib, which I'm sure ArcaOS would have, so it might
    work.

    Did a search in ArcaOS...but didn't find anything in the repo's for the library. QT5 has just started being used with ArcaOS.

    On the other hand...OS/2 is available at the Internet Archive and other places...such as WinWorldPC.com. Michael MJD was using it to try to install OS/2 2.1...which didn't work well for him on several PC's. You do end up with it...VirtualBox works great all the way to ArcaOS.

    Actually it's got me wondering if it will run on Haiku, I believe they have QT
    ported also.

    That would be fantastic...since a buddy & I bought a copy of BeOS back when it was being sold commercially. Have kept an eye on it thru the years & am impressed how much they have gotten on it. Too bad Apple was shortsighted on not to use it.

    ... The best laid plans often go fowl - Wile E. Coyote
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    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From apam@21:1/222 to ACMEBBS on Tue May 24 20:10:00 2022
    On Mon May 23 22:50:00 2022, ACMEBBS wrote to apam <=-

    Did a search in ArcaOS...but didn't find anything in the repo's for the library. QT5 has just started being used with ArcaOS.

    It would probably come bundled with the OS I would imagine.

    On the other hand...OS/2 is available at the Internet Archive and other places...such as WinWorldPC.com. Michael MJD was using it to try to install OS/2 2.1...which didn't work well for him on several PC's. You do end up with it...VirtualBox works great all the way to ArcaOS.

    I actually own a copy of eComStation, but I had all sorts of trouble getting stuff working, mostly because the stuff I needed came in RPM packages, and eComStation doesn't come with RPM. You're supposed to be able to bootstrap it on eComStation, but when I tried it was broken (the boot strap RPM was to old to install the RPM of rpm or something.. it was a while ago.)

    eComStation seemed somewhat unstable for me, perhaps virtual box has improved, but everytime I used it I got frustrated with it for some reason or another.

    Andrew
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    Andrew Pamment (apam)

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Tue May 24 20:07:00 2022
    On Tue May 24 20:10:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    I actually own a copy of eComStation, but I had all sorts of trouble getting
    stuff working, mostly because the stuff I needed came in RPM packages, and eComStation doesn't come with RPM. You're supposed to be able to bootstrap it
    on eComStation, but when I tried it was broken (the boot strap RPM was to old
    to install the RPM of rpm or something.. it was a while ago.)

    eComStation seemed somewhat unstable for me, perhaps virtual box has improved,
    but everytime I used it I got frustrated with it for some reason or another.

    Even though I let my yearly subscription expire with ArcaOS...can still get updates with YUM. As you pointed out...eCS was more trouble than it was worth. On the other hand...ArcaOS has usually delivered the same experience I get with Windows.

    Been trying to get ReactOS working...but it is the same experience with that as you got with eCS. Like the idea of it...but after 15-20 or so years in alpha...not sure if they will ever get it working.

    ... Hey Santa, how much for your list of naughty little boys?
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    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Wed May 25 22:15:00 2022
    On Mon May 23 23:42:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Just got it & love it! Has everything built in...rather than needing exterior programs.
    Glad you like it :)

    Here is a message using it from VMWare Workstation 16+ under Haiku. Please check the message to make sure everything is right.

    Not sure how I would get this to you...but if you can find out...please let me know at my email address on your BBS.

    === TitanMail/haiku v1.1.5
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Thu May 26 19:30:36 2022
    Here is a message using it from VMWare Workstation 16+ under Haiku.
    Please check the message to make sure everything is right.

    Looks good to me!

    Not sure how I would get this to you...but if you can find out...please let me know at my email address on your BBS.

    I think the upload to happyland worked fine, thankyou!

    Nice work!

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Thu May 26 04:42:00 2022
    On Thu May 26 19:30:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Here is a message using it from VMWare Workstation 16+ under Haiku. Please check the message to make sure everything is right.

    Looks good to me!

    Tried to put it on a Netbook from 2008 & won't work...because I have a feeling all the files it needs are on the original image.

    Not sure how I would get this to you...but if you can find out...please let me know at my email address on your BBS.

    I think the upload to happyland worked fine, thankyou!

    Nice work!

    Except for the error message while running make install...several have seen it & hope to get more information on how to solve it. Here's what it showed:

    ~/Desktop/Home/TitanMail-build> make install
    [ 2%] Automatic MOC and UIC for target QuaZip
    [ 2%] Built target QuaZip_autogen
    [ 50%] Built target QuaZip
    [ 52%] Automatic MOC and UIC for target TitanMail
    [ 52%] Built target TitanMail_autogen
    [100%] Built target TitanMail
    Install the project...
    -- Install configuration: ""
    -- Installing: /boot/system/lib/libquazip1-qt5.so.1.3
    CMake Error at /boot/home/Desktop/Home/Desktop/Home/TitanMail-build/quazip/quazip/cmake_install.cmake:52 (file):
    file INSTALL cannot copy file
    "/boot/home/TitanMail-build/quazip/quazip/libquazip1-qt5.so.1.3" to
    "/boot/system/lib/libquazip1-qt5.so.1.3": Read-only file system.
    Call Stack (most recent call first):
    /boot/home/Desktop/Home/Desktop/Home/TitanMail-build/quazip/cmake_install.cmake:42 (include)
    /boot/home/Desktop/Home/Desktop/Home/Desktop/Home/TitanMail-build/cmake_install.cmake:42 (include)


    Makefile:99: recipe for target 'install' failed
    make: *** [install] Error 1

    Am at a loss on how to solve it...especially being so close.


    ... Do not look into laser with remaining eyeball.
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    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to ACMEBBS on Thu May 26 08:41:56 2022
    Re: Re: Hi
    By: ACMEBBS to apam on Wed May 25 2022 10:15 pm

    Here is a message using it from VMWare Workstation 16+ under Haiku. Please check the message to make sure everything is right.

    I should probably give Haiku a try again.. I briefly used BeOS in the late 90s and really liked it. I wasn't sure if Haiku was ready for daily use yet, but maybe it's closer than I thought.

    Nightfox
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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Nightfox on Thu May 26 23:28:00 2022
    On Thu May 26 08:41:00 2022, Nightfox wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Here is a message using it from VMWare Workstation 16+ under Haiku. Please
    check the message to make sure everything is right.

    I should probably give Haiku a try again.. I briefly used BeOS in the late 90s
    and really liked it. I wasn't sure if Haiku was ready for daily use yet, but
    maybe it's closer than I thought.

    Same way here. Until Apam mentioned it...hadn't looked at it in a long time. Add to that...once I get an idea on how to solve the problems with "Make" & get TitanMail totally compiled...may look at some more software to attempt. There's only 1 BBS program for Be/Haiku...be amazing to have not only a QWK reader for it...but some BBS software as well.

    ... Ben Dover and C. Howitt Feels-Attorneys at Law
    === TitanMail/winnt v1.1.5
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From apam@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Fri May 27 19:50:11 2022
    to attempt. There's only 1 BBS program for Be/Haiku...be amazing to have not only a QWK reader for it...but some BBS software as well.

    At one time a long time ago, I got magicka to compile on Haiku, but ssh had trouble because of a bug in haiku, telnet worked fine though.

    I don't know if it still works, probably not. Also had magiterm running on it for fun, SSH worked, but no password manager so I just disabled password saving on that platform (which is annoying).

    I guess I should just save the passwords directly on the disk like other BBS terminals, perhaps as a fallback if an os password manager isn't available.

    Andrew

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to apam on Fri May 27 04:44:00 2022
    On Fri May 27 19:50:00 2022, apam wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    to attempt. There's only 1 BBS program for Be/Haiku...be amazing to have
    not only a QWK reader for it...but some BBS software as well.

    At one time a long time ago, I got magicka to compile on Haiku, but ssh had trouble because of a bug in haiku, telnet worked fine though.

    That's kewl! Never bothered using SSH...but knowing this...gives me hope.

    I don't know if it still works, probably not. Also had magiterm running on it
    for fun, SSH worked, but no password manager so I just disabled password saving
    on that platform (which is annoying).

    That was my next question was about MagicTerm.

    I guess I should just save the passwords directly on the disk like other BBS
    terminals, perhaps as a fallback if an os password manager isn't available.

    That's an option...especially since I shave my head...so I can't lose what I don't have.

    Did join the Haiku community & got these replies:

    You cannot install to /boot/system directly in this way. So you need to configure it to install to /boot/system/non-packaged instead. There is probably some command line flag to pass to cmake to set this (sometimes called CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX or something similar) but it can change from project to project. So you have to check TitanMail QWK build documentation to find the correct flag.

    Then your make install will work.

    So...of to the dox I go.

    Another reply said there is a copy of quazip in our depot :slight_smile: check in Terminal with pkgman search quazip1 (got a local copy thats the latest version but at least TeXstudio would need a rebuild for that then) :slight_smile:

    Gonna try this 1st & go from there.

    ... Old age isn't bad when you consider the alternative.
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    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: fsxNet FTN<>QWK Gateway (21:4/10)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to apam on Tue May 31 21:46:35 2022
    On 22 May 2022 at 01:12p, apam pondered and said...

    Hello

    Hey :)

    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but
    been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    I've been working from home but heading into the office tomorrow for the first time in about 9 months... I'm planning on wearing a mask all day but not sure I'll handle it.

    Been doing some BBSing also but equally have been keeping an eye on parents health and also supporting my immediate family with their usual ups and downs so yeah never a dull day.

    Nice to chat with you again in echomail... I think everyone is busier and or got other things on these days but it's nice when I see a few old (can we say that now :)) names pop up now and then.

    Been watching some 70's and 80's movies lately on a streaming service called Tubi that costs nothing other than sitting through ads for T Mobile and Walmart etc. I think the IPv6 tunnel I am running allows me to watch this stuff so that's kinda a bonus.

    Watched The Taking of Pelham 123 from 1976?? tonight. Not bad, I liked it more than the 90's version with Denzal Washington in it.

    I expect after the next few days my brain may be fried as I won't be used to all the people contact having done most of my meetings over Teams or Zoom or... so yeah, bracing myself for a bit of mental decompression over the weekend. The nice thing is it will be a long weekend here as we have a public holiday (Queen's Birthday) next Monday.

    Anywhoo, nice to see you around and I hope you're having fun playing with whatever you're working on at the mo that brings you interest.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Tue May 31 18:21:39 2022
    On 31 May 2022, Avon said the following...


    Watched The Taking of Pelham 123 from 1976?? tonight. Not bad, I liked
    it more than the 90's version with Denzal Washington in it.


    Great movie!!!! Best line of the movie is "There's got to be a red light, there's always a reg light'! LOL Walter Matheau was in my opinion a very underrated actor...


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  • From Apam@21:1/183 to Avon on Wed Jun 1 11:43:00 2022
    On Tue May 31 21:46:00 2022, Avon wrote to apam <=-

    On 22 May 2022 at 01:12p, apam pondered and said...

    Hello

    Hey :)

    How is everyone? Had a bit of burnout and took a break for a bit, but been dabbling my toes in BBSing again.

    I've been working from home but heading into the office tomorrow for the first time in about 9 months... I'm planning on wearing a mask all day but not sure I'll handle it.

    Do they still require mask wearing there? Here it's only required in health care settings like going to the doctor or chemist. We choose to wear ours anyway when we go out, but we don't have to.

    Been doing some BBSing also but equally have been keeping an eye on parents health and also supporting my immediate family with their usual ups and downs so yeah never a dull day.

    Yep, been thinking of you re: parents. Hoping all is going ok there.

    Nice to chat with you again in echomail... I think everyone is busier and or got other things on these days but it's nice when I see a few old (can we say that now :)) names pop up now and then.

    Yeah I guess so. fsxnet's been here a few years now. I'm definatly feeling old anyway.

    Been watching some 70's and 80's movies lately on a streaming service called Tubi that costs nothing other than sitting through ads for T Mobile and Walmart etc. I think the IPv6 tunnel I am running allows me to watch this stuff so that's kinda a bonus.

    Cool. I take it that's an american service? (Do you guys even have walmart? We don't) Pretty cool that they don't block it through the tunnel.

    Watched The Taking of Pelham 123 from 1976?? tonight. Not bad, I liked it more than the 90's version with Denzal Washington in it.

    I've not seen the original, but have seen the 90s version. Don't remember much about it though.

    I expect after the next few days my brain may be fried as I won't be used to all the people contact having done most of my meetings over Teams or Zoom or... so yeah, bracing myself for a bit of mental decompression over the weekend. The nice thing is it will be a long weekend here as we have a public holiday (Queen's Birthday) next Monday.

    Yep, I wonder if it will be a good thing or a bad thing? For some I imagine having that human interaction would be welcome, for others not so much.. I'm probably in the latter catagory :P

    Anywhoo, nice to see you around and I hope you're having fun playing with whatever you're working on at the mo that brings you interest.

    Thanks. been working on a synchronet system, working on JS mods and also wrote a new door. Had a bit of a look at talisman, there's an issue where in some circumstances a node can hang and not free up. I've noticed it on alpha's BBS, but haven't been able to reproduce it here, so not really sure what's going on there. I thought it was when people hung up inside a rlogin session, but I'm not sure now.

    Has it been really cold there? We've had a "Polar blast" last few days, I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I assume it's wind comming from antarctica. It's been pretty cold, though I imagine nothing like you guys get when it's cold there :P

    Andrew

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Apam on Wed Jun 1 16:38:35 2022
    Apam wrote to Avon <=-

    Do they still require mask wearing there? Here it's only required in health care settings like going to the doctor or chemist. We choose to wear ours anyway when we go out, but we don't have to.

    Same here. We don't have to wear one in most cases (Kentucky, USA), but I still do.




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  • From k9zw@21:1/224 to Blue White on Thu Jun 2 07:22:13 2022
    On 01 Jun 2022, Blue White said the following...

    Apam wrote to Avon <=-

    Do they still require mask wearing there? Here it's only required in health care settings like going to the doctor or chemist. We choose t wear ours anyway when we go out, but we don't have to.

    Same here. We don't have to wear one in most cases (Kentucky, USA), but
    I still do.


    Our area of non-urban Wisconsin masks have disappeared except healthcare/nursing-home settings.

    Almost never see people masked up.

    Other parts of Wisconsin (like in the Peoples Republic of Madison) did a lot more masking, even though the running statistics didn't show benefit of doing so.

    As it is I keep a "face covering" fabric mask in my pocket for my swimming center, as you have to walk through a healthcare clinic to get to the pool, and have a supply of surgical courtesy masks (the typical ones you see) for nursing home and medical center proper visits.

    I'm more prone to wearing a mask doing dusty chores than playing virus-theater.

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  • From Andre@21:3/117 to k9zw on Thu Jun 2 08:51:23 2022
    Our area of non-urban Wisconsin masks have disappeared except healthcare/nursing-home settings.
    Almost never see people masked up.

    Other parts of Wisconsin (like in the Peoples Republic of Madison) did a lot more masking, even though the running statistics didn't show benefit of doing so.

    I live in the second most liberal neighborhood of Milwaukee, and other than people waiting for the bus you don't see many masks. It's pretty much over except for the most fearful 50-something women that you see walking through the park with masks on.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Mon Jun 6 11:05:05 2022
    On 31 May 2022 at 06:21p, Bucko pondered and said...

    Great movie!!!! Best line of the movie is "There's got to be a red light, there's always a reg light'! LOL Walter Matheau was in my opinion a very underrated actor...

    Yes I really enjoyed it and thought it was better than the 90s remake. That line about the red light was a classic :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Mon Jun 6 11:13:58 2022
    On 01 Jun 2022 at 11:43a, Apam pondered and said...

    I've been working from home but heading into the office tomorrow for th first time in about 9 months... I'm planning on wearing a mask all day not sure I'll handle it.

    Do they still require mask wearing there? Here it's only required in health care settings like going to the doctor or chemist. We choose to wear ours anyway when we go out, but we don't have to.

    In some places it's still mandated like on airplanes and in hospitals etc. Others I think it's more at business discretion. I'm honestly still trying to suss it out :)

    Yep, been thinking of you re: parents. Hoping all is going ok there.

    Thanks, yeah my Dad is tired as his caring duties for my Mum have increased, so I think his ability to get out and get exercise and just do non carer stuff has declined a lot so that's impacting on his health. Mum I think is about the same but in decline slowly with her cognitive functions... the joys of Alzheimer's. They both turn 80 this year so my plan is to go visit them for their respective birthdays, the first one is in July.

    got other things on these days but it's nice when I see a few old (can say that now :)) names pop up now and then.

    Yeah I guess so. fsxnet's been here a few years now. I'm definatly
    feeling old anyway.

    you and me both :) We need a virtual tavern where we can sit and quaff a beer and talk about days of old.. ha.

    Cool. I take it that's an american service? (Do you guys even have walmart? We don't) Pretty cool that they don't block it through the tunnel.

    Yep it's a USA thing but because I run the IPv6 tunnel I seem to gain from that and can watch it. No to Walmart the only one I have been to was in the USA a few years ago.

    Watched The Taking of Pelham 123 from 1976?? tonight. Not bad, I liked more than the 90's version with Denzal Washington in it.

    I've not seen the original, but have seen the 90s version. Don't
    remember much about it though.

    It's typical Denzal being earnest and saving the day.. :)

    weekend. The nice thing is it will be a long weekend here as we have a public holiday (Queen's Birthday) next Monday.

    Yep, I wonder if it will be a good thing or a bad thing? For some I imagine having that human interaction would be welcome, for others not
    so much.. I'm probably in the latter catagory :P

    It went OK, they want us to ramp up days in, this week it will be 3 instead of 2 and then after that I may be 4 in and 1 at home. It's Queens Birthday holiday as I write this, the day is calm and sunny so it's a nice way to spend the day with the windows open, sun coming in, catching up on echomail and some network admin.

    Thanks. been working on a synchronet system, working on JS mods and also wrote a new door. Had a bit of a look at talisman, there's an issue
    where in some circumstances a node can hang and not free up. I've
    noticed it on alpha's BBS, but haven't been able to reproduce it here,
    so not really sure what's going on there. I thought it was when people hung up inside a rlogin session, but I'm not sure now.


    Sounds good, so long as it's fun and/or of interest then chip away at stuff I say. I have been putting off doing some BBS stuff because it feels a bit overwhelming... and it's probably not.

    Has it been really cold there? We've had a "Polar blast" last few days, I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I assume it's wind comming
    from antarctica. It's been pretty cold, though I imagine nothing like
    you guys get when it's cold there :P

    Not really, there are still some leaves on trees that would have lost them 6 weeks ago... but it is now cold, we're burning firewood each night and there's some talk of a polar blast next weekend and possible snowfall to lower levels... but overall it's certainly been a milder winter and autumn so far... how about you?

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  • From Apam@21:1/183 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 09:56:00 2022
    On Mon June 6 11:13:00 2022, Avon wrote to Apam <=-

    In some places it's still mandated like on airplanes and in hospitals etc. Others I think it's more at business discretion. I'm honestly still trying to suss it out :)

    Ah yeah, I think it's on planes here too though I've not been on a plane since before the pandemic.

    Sounds good, so long as it's fun and/or of interest then chip away at stuff I say. I have been putting off doing some BBS stuff because it feels a bit overwhelming... and it's probably not.

    I know how that feels - especially when you feel as though people are waiting on you. I guess that's when it starts to stop being a hobby and start being a job, then the fun can drain away.

    For me I have to stop feeling obliged to fix problems and add features, people are free to run something else if what i've made doesn't fit their purpose, they could even add the feature themselves if they really wanted it.

    Having said that, it's not like I don't want to help solve problems and add features, I just have to do it on my own time and not rush thinking someone is there tapping their foot urging me to hurry up.

    It's all in my head though really, I don't experience people wanting me to hurry up - perhaps some kind of anxiety related thing.

    I wonder if it's similar to running a popular net?

    Not really, there are still some leaves on trees that would have lost them 6 weeks ago... but it is now cold, we're burning firewood each night and there's some talk of a polar blast next weekend and possible snowfall to lower levels... but overall it's certainly been a milder winter and autumn so far... how about you?

    I don't know to be honest. I don't really keep track of the weather, except to say that it's been cold that last few days / weeks. Yesterday was cold but it didn't rain until night time, so we could have got some washing done (but didn't because thinking it might rain) today we're doing washing, and hoping it doesn't rain.

    Andrew

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Sun Jun 5 21:38:15 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022, Avon said the following...

    Yes I really enjoyed it and thought it was better than the 90s remake. That line about the red light was a classic :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Mon Jun 6 14:23:31 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022 at 09:56a, Apam pondered and said...

    Ah yeah, I think it's on planes here too though I've not been on a plane since before the pandemic.

    I have flown a couple of flights this year so far and it's a bit of a pain but not too much so. They stopped serving nibbles mid-flight and coffee/tea also but that made sense when you're asking folks to keep masks on. They just started giving out food options as you departed at the end of the flight.

    Sounds good, so long as it's fun and/or of interest then chip away at s I say. I have been putting off doing some BBS stuff because it feels a overwhelming... and it's probably not.

    I know how that feels - especially when you feel as though people are waiting on you. I guess that's when it starts to stop being a hobby and start being a job, then the fun can drain away.

    There is something in that yes, but at the moment it's more that just there's only so much mental energy to go around, what with all the dramas with covid-19 lockdowns and trying to avoid getting sick, remote working for months at a time, sick parents, keeping my own kids on the straight and narrow and supporting them during these crazy times, my wife still working through her mums death (and estate wind-up some 2 years later that will get sorted by Christmas). .. it's a mix of things to be fair.

    Having said that, it's not like I don't want to help solve problems and add features, I just have to do it on my own time and not rush thinking someone is there tapping their foot urging me to hurry up.

    I kind of feel like I need to make time to focus on fsxNet and I certainly do do that but perhaps not as much as before because of all of the stuff above. I'm a bit slower to respond to some new membership requests (and feel a bit bad about that) at times but like you remind myself it's a hobby and to do things at my own pace and when it feels enjoyable etc. to do so.

    It's all in my head though really, I don't experience people wanting me
    to hurry up - perhaps some kind of anxiety related thing.
    I wonder if it's similar to running a popular net?

    Haha... it's not just in your head, perhaps we start a support group for like minded folks :)

    I don't know to be honest. I don't really keep track of the weather, except to say that it's been cold that last few days / weeks. Yesterday was cold but it didn't rain until night time, so we could have got some washing done (but didn't because thinking it might rain) today we're
    doing washing, and hoping it doesn't rain.

    I'm probably more attuned to it at the moment as we burn a lot of wood to keep warm and with that comes lugging it into the house most nights... so I know when it's cooler heh... but I do like that warmth of a fireplace and as such have to be prepared to keep at the lifting and lugging of wood. I hope never go down the path of a heat pump... still I should never say never.

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  • From apam@21:1/101 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 15:04:34 2022
    I have flown a couple of flights this year so far and it's a bit of a
    pain but not too much so. They stopped serving nibbles mid-flight and coffee/tea also but that made sense when you're asking folks to keep
    masks on. They just started giving out food options as you departed at
    the end of the flight.

    Ah, I hadn't thought about the snacks / tea / coffee etc.

    There is something in that yes, but at the moment it's more that just there's only so much mental energy to go around, what with all the
    dramas with covid-19 lockdowns and trying to avoid getting sick, remote working for months at a time, sick parents, keeping my own kids on the straight and narrow and supporting them during these crazy times, my
    wife still working through her mums death (and estate wind-up some 2
    years later that will get sorted by Christmas). .. it's a mix of things
    to be fair.

    Yeah definitely, you've had/have a lot on your plate right now. I guess that's when it really does need to be enjoyable and relaxing to be doable.

    I kind of feel like I need to make time to focus on fsxNet and I
    certainly do do that but perhaps not as much as before because of all of the stuff above.

    Yep, can understand that. It's tough because even though it's a hobby, it's important to you and so you can't just let it go for a while or things start to fall apart. I guess that's something different, to me my BBS software is no longer that important to me, and having people use it isn't important either, so if I let it go for a bit, and they jump on something else or keep using as is, it doesn't matter. With a net you've always got to work on it to keep it up - with software it doesn't stop working if you don't constantly add new things.

    the stuff above. I'm a bit slower to respond to some new membership requests (and feel a bit bad about that) at times but like you remind myself it's a hobby and to do things at my own pace and when it feels enjoyable etc. to do so.

    Yep, I guess it's a fine line, on one hand people don't mind waiting a bit, on the other if they wait too long they get frustrated and naggy lol. Still, I think there's some wiggle room, waiting a week or so is fine, when it approachs a month of no response it's not so fine - but even then, if you keep them in the loop so they don't think you've quit and the net is on autopilot, it wouldn't be so bad.

    Haha... it's not just in your head, perhaps we start a support group for like minded folks :)

    Hehe, I thought this was it ??

    lugging of wood. I hope never go down the path of a heat pump... still I should never say never.

    heat pump? we have an air conditioner that also does heat, when I was in SA had a fire place, that was nice - kind of miss it, but don't miss the constant getting / stacking wood etc.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to apam on Mon Jun 6 15:37:07 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022 at 03:04p, apam pondered and said...

    Ah, I hadn't thought about the snacks / tea / coffee etc.

    I think about them too much heh...

    ..and not just on planes...

    Yeah definitely, you've had/have a lot on your plate right now. I guess that's when it really does need to be enjoyable and relaxing to be
    doable.

    I agree... today has been fun, most of what I am doing is trying to swat down inactive nodes and delink them. For all the upsides of running a mix of BinkD and HPT etc. it's a royal pain to have to edit multiple config files to add and remove nodes, equally I have to manually check echo stats to see which node is building up with excess files, days... and then also manually poll as that node to clear held/stuck echomail as well as clear fileboxes...

    I confess the Mystic setup up for auto removal and one place to add/remove a node vs 3-4 config files is far more appealing..

    Yep, can understand that. It's tough because even though it's a hobby, it's important to you and so you can't just let it go for a while or things start to fall apart. I guess that's something different, to me my BBS software is no longer that important to me, and having people use it isn't important either, so if I let it go for a bit, and they jump on something else or keep using as is, it doesn't matter. With a net you've always got to work on it to keep it up - with software it doesn't stop working if you don't constantly add new things.

    It's not like the network has stopped working while I'm not as active but yes I guess there are risks things can bung up at HUB etc. and then that's when issues can occur. There's a packet I need to check out with Solaris for NET 2 causing him some issues so that's on my to-do soon but really for the most part things run smoothly without me being on every day.

    It's in the area of adding/removing nodes that takes a bit of time so I do need to make time for that admin. That's cool, I'm fine with that but may not be acting on things within 30 mins now :)

    the stuff above. I'm a bit slower to respond to some new membership requests (and feel a bit bad about that) at times but like you remind myself it's a hobby and to do things at my own pace and when it feels enjoyable etc. to do so.

    Yep, I guess it's a fine line, on one hand people don't mind waiting a bit, on the other if they wait too long they get frustrated and naggy
    lol. Still, I think there's some wiggle room, waiting a week or so is fine, when it approachs a month of no response it's not so fine - but
    even then, if you keep them in the loop so they don't think you've quit and the net is on autopilot, it wouldn't be so bad.

    yep...

    Haha... it's not just in your head, perhaps we start a support group like minded folks :)

    Hehe, I thought this was it ??

    Aha... good to know heh

    heat pump? we have an air conditioner that also does heat, when I was in SA had a fire place, that was nice - kind of miss it, but don't miss the constant getting / stacking wood etc.

    Yes I imagine you'd be far more aircon for cooling that heating. Lugging firewood builds muscles and gives me a chance at wrist wrestling... but only a chance

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  • From Apam@21:1/183 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 15:21:00 2022
    On Mon June 6 15:37:00 2022, Avon wrote to apam <=-

    On 06 Jun 2022 at 03:04p, apam pondered and said...

    Ah, I hadn't thought about the snacks / tea / coffee etc.

    I think about them too much heh...

    Hah, I just made a coffee and got a bowl of peanuts :D

    I agree... today has been fun, most of what I am doing is trying to swat down inactive nodes and delink them. For all the upsides of running a mix of BinkD and HPT etc. it's a royal pain to have to edit multiple config files to add and remove nodes, equally I have to manually check echo stats to see which node is building up with excess files, days... and then also manually poll as that node to clear held/stuck echomail as well as clear fileboxes...

    You should try running fsxnet with postie. I bet you'd love hpt after that lol. Posite works (I'm running happynet with it) but it's all configured in one long toml file - which is ok if you're just an end node, but as a hub it gets a bit unweildly, and I'm only running a tiny net. I shudder to think what it would be like with fsx size node list.

    I confess the Mystic setup up for auto removal and one place to add/remove a node vs 3-4 config files is far more appealing..

    Sounds like the management side of things was well done with that.

    It's in the area of adding/removing nodes that takes a bit of time so I do need to make time for that admin. That's cool, I'm fine with that but may not be acting on things within 30 mins now :)

    Yep, that's where it's ongoing work. I honestly don't think a couple of days is bad at all, I've signed up to a couple of smaller nets and both have taken a few days to get running. 30 minutes is pretty awesome, but I don't think anyone expects that speediness.

    Yes I imagine you'd be far more aircon for cooling that heating. Lugging firewood builds muscles and gives me a chance at wrist wrestling... but only a chance

    While I am sure it doesn't get as cold as down there, it does get fairly cold up here. Toowoomba's up on top of the great dividing range, so gets quiet a bit cooler than say brisbane or on the coast. Though lately with all the rain / flooding we'd be getting that whole ad campaign "beautiful one day, perfect the next" is a little bit thrown out the window... and Queensland the "Sunshine" state,

    There is a house (probably a few) near our unit complex with a wood fireplace, you can smell the smoke when it's cold. It's not overpowering or anything, but kind of reminds me of spending time with grand parents in South Australia out on the farm lighting camp fires in the winter.

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 04:08:00 2022
    On Mon Jun 6 14:23:00 2022, Avon wrote to Apam <=-

    I'm probably more attuned to it at the moment as we burn a lot of wood to keep
    warm and with that comes lugging it into the house most nights... so I know when it's cooler heh... but I do like that warmth of a fireplace and as such
    have to be prepared to keep at the lifting and lugging of wood. I hope never go
    down the path of a heat pump... still I should never say never.

    Remember living in the Nephi area in Utah when I was a pre-teen. This would put it roughly around 1970. Had a wood stove in the kitchen in the farm house we lived in...but for the main heat source...used a coal fired furnace in tthe living room. The thing was HUGE (enough to store 2 full-sized coffins in).

    Hated hauling coal in from the shed at least twice a day. Wood smells good & doesn't leave you black like coal. So happy that's a form of heat which has come and gone.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 08:16:00 2022
    Avon wrote to Apam <=-

    I have flown a couple of flights this year so far and it's a bit of a
    pain but not too much so. They stopped serving nibbles mid-flight and coffee/tea also but that made sense when you're asking folks to keep
    masks on. They just started giving out food options as you departed at
    the end of the flight.

    Coffee and tea made with the water in the holding tanks is a bad idea - I'd get yours from the concourse and bring it on.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Mon Jun 6 08:23:00 2022
    Avon wrote to apam <=-

    I confess the Mystic setup up for auto removal and one place to
    add/remove a node vs 3-4 config files is far more appealing..

    I'm doing the same thing in Fidonet and Micronet. I miss having a graphical tool to zap outbound mail waiting for a node that's no longer connecting. I need to find the .?lo file and manually delete the files.

    Then, edit areas.bbs and tickit.ini in a text editor, remove the node from Synchronet, re-run makenl, and so on.

    I suppose I could spend some time to write a script to do it all, since at
    the end of the day it's all text configs.




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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Fri Jun 10 12:25:51 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022 at 04:08a, ACMEBBS pondered and said...

    Hated hauling coal in from the shed at least twice a day. Wood smells
    good & doesn't leave you black like coal. So happy that's a form of heat which has come and gone.

    Coal reminds me of school days and smells from the boiler used on site... agree wood is much nicer :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 10 12:27:58 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022 at 08:16a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    Coffee and tea made with the water in the holding tanks is a bad idea - I'd get yours from the concourse and bring it on.

    I'm not sure they allow it at the mo, but yeah, point taken good sir :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jun 10 12:30:07 2022
    On 06 Jun 2022 at 08:23a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    Avon wrote to apam <=-

    I confess the Mystic setup up for auto removal and one place to add/remove a node vs 3-4 config files is far more appealing..

    I'm doing the same thing in Fidonet and Micronet. I miss having a graphical tool to zap outbound mail waiting for a node that's no longer connecting. I need to find the .?lo file and manually delete the files.

    Then, edit areas.bbs and tickit.ini in a text editor, remove the node
    from Synchronet, re-run makenl, and so on.

    I suppose I could spend some time to write a script to do it all, since
    at the end of the day it's all text configs.

    Yes when things run at scale that's when I miss the all in one features stuff to do that automated admin... having many text files to stay on top of whist giving more granularity also brings more admin overheads...

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Avon on Sat Jun 11 00:19:00 2022
    On Fri Jun 10 12:25:00 2022, Avon wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    > AC> Hated hauling coal in from the shed at least twice a day. Wood smells
    good & doesn't leave you black like coal. So happy that's a form of heat
    which has come and gone.
    Coal reminds me of school days and smells from the boiler used on site... agree
    wood is much nicer :)

    Going to today...working in a big box store here in Oregon. Hauling coal reminds me of unloading a box lorry/truck and looking like I've been playing in the coal bin. The coal was MUCH easier than unloading 1000+ pieces of merchandise.

    ... If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk?
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