I'm back, again, seems I do that, disappear for a few months and then am all ready to work on things again.
Life kept me somewhat busy, I was helping my mom, trying to train a mini Doxie pup, and traveled internationally a bit. When I did sit down to
work on things, it was mostly my Asterisk server that got my attention.
I guess I'm bored of that right now.
I'm definitely looking to add more games on my system, especially if
they are InterBBS even if I'm the only one on my end playing them. Never did that before, definitely want the experience of it now. Turns out I already had DOSEMU installed for DOS doors. So I guess I was already planning on it, just never got around to it I guess.
Thinking about getting a Usenet feed, on my last BBS I had two, I know sticking them together was a bad idea. Sorry Paul, I should have known better, I knew how that normally worked, but it didn't cross my mind
what I was doing for some reason. I definitely won't ever do anything
like that again.
Have some maintenance and cleaning up to do over here, so I'll shut up
and stop rambling now.
welcome back, nice to see you active in the echos again :)
I know how that is, I tend to go through waves of activity in working on some projects then they take a back seat for a period then I circle back to them etc.
coolio, there's 3 running in fsxNet at the moment, info is in the infopack.
let me know if/when you want another feed and we can suss that out. No probs.
I need to get to a cup of tea I have forgotten I made about 25 mins
ago... it will likely be well and truly too strong, I may need to start over.
let me know if/when you want another feed and we can suss that out. N probs.
Ah, so both the Usnet feed and the InterBBS games still come from the
same feed. I technically don't have a license for BRE or FE at the
moment but, Galactic Dynasty I definitely want to set that one up even
if I only play it on my board myself.
I've gotten to the point, if I think I'm going to be dogpiled for my opinion I comment and walk away and don't read the replies, or I just don't comment at all.
Ah, so both the Usnet feed and the InterBBS games still come from the
same feed. I technically don't have a license for BRE or FE at the
moment but, Galactic Dynasty I definitely want to set that one up even
if I only play it on my board myself.
Thus why the no politics/religion rule (and general be-kind ethos), the lack of karma things, and the lack of easy meme-ing make this such a better place to be than arguing with random people on the internet.
Or, worse, friends.
I purchased licenses for them recently, and like that it's still
possible to support some BBS software, even though I can't imagine
there's any money to be made in the field.
(not that I'm in the InterBBS games. I figure, unless I'm planning on playing them, better to leave it to other BBSs.)
But I'm glad I'm in a place where I can offer small amounts of money to various projects that I enjoy, or enjoyed in previous years.
I did pay for them a few days ago, heard nothing back yet, but I don't necessarily mind. I'm in no rush. I just feel like, after years of
playing some of those games, but never having them on my own BBS,
mostly because I couldn't afford it, I decided now I probably should
pay for it.
Starstorm wrote to All <=-
I'm definitely looking to add more games on my system, especially if
they are InterBBS even if I'm the only one on my end playing them.
Never did that before, definitely want the experience of it now. Turns
out I already had DOSEMU installed for DOS doors. So I guess I was
already planning on it, just never got around to it I guess.
I did pay for them a few days ago, heard nothing back yet, but I don't necessarily mind. I'm in no rush. I just feel like, after years of
playing some of those games, but never having them on my own BBS, mostly because I couldn't afford it, I decided now I probably should pay for it.
Starstorm wrote to Avon <=-
Thank you, so much better here than arguing with people on Facebook.
I don't understand why people who hate a TV show join a Facebook group
for fans of a show, or for that matter, why they have time to watch
things they don't enjoy.
I've gotten to the point, if I think I'm going to be dogpiled for my opinion I comment and walk away and don't read the replies, or I just don't comment at all.
Trolls have been around longer than Facebook or BBSs.
Just a week or so ago a dude made an account on my board just to troll me and others. Trolls are dime a dozzen no matter the platform.
Facebook and Twitter via their algorithms amplify it though.
Just a week or so ago a dude made an account on my board just to troll
me and others. Trolls are dime a dozzen no matter the platform.
Sure, and the advantage that a BBS had back in the day was a relatively small user base (even the big boards were tiny in comparison to Facebook or Twitter) and a relatively proactive moderator (the sysop) or group of moderators (message base moderators). The trolliest boards I can remember
It's interesting how messed up the ability to scale can make things.
On the other hand, I wonder how it was on Compuserv.
I think CompuServ at it's peak was...3 or 4 million? I think AOL was 10 times that. AOL *definitely* had its fair share of trolls, but I think in both cases it wasn't quite the same as it is today. Anyway, I'd much
Abbub wrote to Adept <=-
I think CompuServ at it's peak was...3 or 4 million? I think AOL was 10 times that. AOL *definitely* had its fair share of trolls, but I think
in both cases it wasn't quite the same as it is today.
I think a good number of us can remember no longer calling a certain
BBS anymore because the trolls were out of control.
Dr. What wrote to Abbub <=-
Compu$erve had a fairly steep learning curve for the time as well as a pretty steep cost. That kept most of the trolls out.
Abbub wrote to Dr. What <=-
I think I may have dodged that particular experience because both of
the places I was living during the 'BBS era' were pretty small places.
I suspect that larger populations had a) more boards and b) more users
for the boards that would create the kind of BBS you're talking about.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dr. What <=-
I'd forgotten about dial-up Compuserve. The GUI apps were pretty nice.
As I mentioned, I got access for free because my company hosted a
support forum on CI$. That was great, because back then I was a Novell admin, and Novell's support forum back then was primarily on
CompuServe.
I never even knew Compu$erve had a GUI at some point.
Abbub wrote to Dr. What <=-
account, which she showed us. My impression of Prodigy was that it was exactly the kind of on-line service I'd expect someone who bought an
IBM PS/1 to use. lol.
We used to cycle through 'free' trials of AOL and leech files off of
them.
Goldbox engine. It was very similar to those games in look and feel. I think that lasted until I got the first bill.
in both cases it wasn't quite the same as it is today. Anyway, I'd much rather be in charge of having to figure out how to moderate 35 million people than 3 billion people.
In any event, without getting political, I suspect that the real answer
is that people had more of a veneer of civility about them 30 years ago. Sure you had trolls, but to the bulk of the population being a troll was socially unacceptable. I'm not sure that the same is true today.
relatively small user base (even the big boards were tiny in
comparison to Facebook or Twitter) and a relatively proactive
moderator (the sysop) or group of moderators (message base
moderators). The trolliest boards I can remember
It's interesting how messed up the ability to scale can make things.
On the other hand, I wonder how it was on Compuserv.
But, these days, the mere fact that people aren't out there trying to get rich from BBSing makes things easier. Probably easier to keep things calm amongst hobbyists.
In any event, without getting political, I suspect that the real answer is that people had more of a veneer of civility about them 30 years ago. Sure you had trolls, but to the bulk of the population being a troll was socially unacceptable. I'm not sure that the same is true today.
Dr. What wrote to Abbub <=-
We used to cycle through 'free' trials of AOL and leech files off of
them.
Dr. What wrote to Abbub <=-
We used to cycle through 'free' trials of AOL and leech files off of them.
I did love those free floppies, though.
I did love those free floppies, though.
Compu$erve had a fairly steep learning curve for the time as well as a pretty steep cost. That kept most of the trolls out.
That immediately allows huge numbers of trolls. But Facebook doesn't do much about them because on Facebook, we, the users, are the product and they deliver our eyeballs to the advertisers.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dr. What <=-
We used to cycle through 'free' trials of AOL and leech files off of
them.
I did love those free floppies, though.
Adept wrote to Dr. What <=-
On the other hand, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act came about because of politicians not liking the no-moderation that was Compuserve, and preferring the greater moderation of Prodigy.
Ignoring anything political there, I'm guessing Compuserve still had
its rough edges, though maybe it wasn't so much with trolling?
I saw a stat recently, that I'm not at all certain on the accuracy of,
but that claimed that Facebook made more revenue per-user than Netflix. Which... yeah, I would find Facebook incredibly easy to cut if it
suddenly cost as much as Netflix.
Adept wrote to Dr. What <=-
On the other hand, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act came about because of politicians not liking the no-moderation that was Compuserve, and preferring the greater moderation of Prodigy.
On the other hand, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act came about because of politicians not liking the no-moderation that was Compuserve, and preferring the greater moderation of Prodigy.
That doesn't seem right. The CDA came out in 1996. Prodigy died for
good in 2001 (and was never really popular). And while Compu$erve still seems to exist today, it was pretty dead by then as well.
My opinion is that as soon as you provide content in anything but a chronographically sorted view or start selling ads based on content gleaned from users' postings, you've crossed the line from distributor
to publisher and should be compelled to monitor content.
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