• BINKD [DOS] not sending mail

    From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to All on Fri Sep 21 14:57:28 2018
    I am running a second BBS on a DOS system and it is configured as a point.
    I poll my main system (Mystic) using Binkd (DOS version).

    My Binkd setup receives mail without problems but sending seems to be a problem, this is my setup:

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    New mail pkg + control file is stored in: c:\mail\outbound.015 - by Gecho

    The outbound in Binkd is configured: domain FSXnet c:\\mail\\outbound 21

    When I run binkd with waiting mail in c:\mail\outbound.015 - nothing happens, but when I move the control file to c:\mail\outbound - then the mail is transferred to my main node.

    Is it Binkd or is it Gecho ?

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to sPINOZa on Fri Sep 21 13:05:54 2018
    On 09/21/18, sPINOZa said the following...

    I am running a second BBS on a DOS system and it is configured as a
    point. I poll my main system (Mystic) using Binkd (DOS version).

    My Binkd setup receives mail without problems but sending seems to be a problem, this is my setup:

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    Make sure you end your paths with the \\ otherwise it doesn't see them. I had this same issue with an Amiga board...

    Hope that helps some...

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  • From Andrew Leary@21:4/105 to sPINOZa on Fri Sep 21 18:00:08 2018
    Hello sPINOZa!

    21 Sep 18 14:57, you wrote to all:

    I am running a second BBS on a DOS system and it is configured as a
    point. I poll my main system (Mystic) using Binkd (DOS version).

    My Binkd setup receives mail without problems but sending seems to be
    a problem, this is my setup:

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    New mail pkg + control file is stored in: c:\mail\outbound.015 - by
    Gecho

    The outbound in Binkd is configured: domain FSXnet c:\\mail\\outbound
    21

    When I run binkd with waiting mail in c:\mail\outbound.015 - nothing happens, but when I move the control file to c:\mail\outbound - then
    the mail is transferred to my main node.

    Is it Binkd or is it Gecho ?

    BinkD expects that the primary outbound directory will not have a zone. To work around it, change your domain line in binkd.cfg to:

    domain fsxnet c:\\mail\\outbound 1

    This lies to BinkD that your primary zone is 1, so that it will see files in outbound.015 as destined for zone 21.

    Andrew

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to sPINOZa on Sat Sep 22 14:29:00 2018
    On 09-21-18 14:57, sPINOZa wrote to All <=-
    t problems but sending seems to be a
    problem, this is my setup:

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    New mail pkg + control file is stored in: c:\mail\outbound.015 - by
    Gecho

    The outbound in Binkd is configured: domain FSXnet c:\\mail\\outbound
    21

    This is expected behaviour. Your default zone for your tosser and mailer are different. You need to configure all domains in binkd to have the same default zone. For example:

    On my Synchronet system, my default zone is my Fidonet zone (Zone 3), so all of my othernet domain entries also has 3 as the default zone. Here's the relevant section of my binkd.conf file. Note that my setup is 5D

    # Your FTN domains:
    # domain <name> <main-outbound> <default-zone> [<root-domain>]
    # or
    # domain <new-name> alias-for <name>
    # First specified domain sets as default domain for the 3D/4D addresses.
    #
    domain fidonet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3 binkp.net
    domain fsxnet /sbbs/binkd/fsxnet 3 fsxnet.nz
    domain anet /sbbs/binkd/anet 3
    domain vkradio /sbbs/binkd/vkradio 3 ftn.vkradio.com
    domain wwivftn /sbbs/binkd/wwivftn 3
    domain sportnet /sbbs/binkd/sportnet 3
    domain gamenet /sbbs/binkd/gamenet 3
    domain pinet /sbbs/binkd/pinet 3
    domain retronet /sbbs/binkd/retronet 3

    For a 3D/4D setup, binkd.conf should look like this:

    # Your FTN domains:
    # domain <name> <main-outbound> <default-zone> [<root-domain>]
    # or
    # domain <new-name> alias-for <name>
    # First specified domain sets as default domain for the 3D/4D addresses.
    #
    domain fidonet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3 binkp.net
    domain fsxnet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3 fsxnet.nz
    domain anet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3
    domain vkradio /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3 ftn.vkradio.com
    domain wwivftn /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3
    domain sportnet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3
    domain gamenet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3
    domain pinet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3
    domain retronet /sbbs/binkd/outbound 3

    Note my examples are on Linux, but the same principles apply in DOS/Windows, just use the appropriate pathname syntax (e.g. c:\mail\outbound, etc).

    When I run binkd with waiting mail in c:\mail\outbound.015 - nothing happens, but when I move the control file to c:\mail\outbound - then
    the mail is transferred to my main node.

    Is it Binkd or is it Gecho ?

    Yes, that's what I'd expect if your tosser (Gecho) has a default zone other than 21. Because binkd has 21 as its default zone, it is looking in c:\mail\outbound as expected.


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  • From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to Bucko on Sun Sep 23 11:13:36 2018
    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    Make sure you end your paths with the \\ otherwise it doesn't see them.
    I had this same issue with an Amiga board...

    Hi, when I use a single \ then Binkd starts complaining. I will try the \\ at the end of the path ...

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  • From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to Andrew Leary on Sun Sep 23 11:14:44 2018
    When I run binkd with waiting mail in c:\mail\outbound.015 - nothing happens, but when I move the control file to c:\mail\outbound - then the mail is transferred to my main node.
    BinkD expects that the primary outbound directory will not have a zone. To work around it, change your domain line in binkd.cfg to:
    domain fsxnet c:\\mail\\outbound 1

    This lies to BinkD that your primary zone is 1, so that it will see
    files in outbound.015 as destined for zone 21.

    Aha, there needs to be more than one entry .... Gonna check this out too.

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  • From sPINOZa@21:1/116 to Vk3jed on Sun Sep 23 11:17:18 2018
    On 09-21-18 14:57, sPINOZa wrote to All <=-
    t problems but sending seems to be a
    problem, this is my setup:

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    New mail pkg + control file is stored in: c:\mail\outbound.015 - by Gecho

    The outbound in Binkd is configured: domain FSXnet c:\\mail\\outbound 21

    This is expected behaviour. Your default zone for your tosser and
    mailer are different. You need to configure all domains in binkd to
    have the same default zone. For example:
    cut ....

    Thank you for your extensive explanation. I am going to have a look at it!!

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to sPINOZa on Mon Sep 24 08:13:00 2018
    On 09-23-18 11:17, sPINOZa wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Thank you for your extensive explanation. I am going to have a look at it!!

    Good luck! :)


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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to sPINOZa on Sun Sep 23 17:42:24 2018
    Re: Re: BINKD [DOS] not sending mail
    By: sPINOZa to Bucko on Sun Sep 23 2018 11:13 am

    Gecho has been configured as Binkley style, outbound mail path is: c:\mail\outbound

    Make sure you end your paths with the \\ otherwise it doesn't see them. I had this same issue with an Amiga board...

    Hi, when I use a single \ then Binkd starts complaining. I will try the \\ at the end of the path ...

    A single forward-slash works too (even on Windows).

    digital man

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Digital Man on Mon Sep 24 13:38:00 2018
    On 09-23-18 17:42, Digital Man wrote to sPINOZa <=-

    A single forward-slash works too (even on Windows).

    Handy to know, so my examples would work on Windows with a "c:" in front of them, assuming the paths were otherwise the same. :)


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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to Vk3jed on Mon Sep 24 21:09:54 2018
    Re: Re: BINKD [DOS] not sending mail
    By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Mon Sep 24 2018 01:38 pm

    On 09-23-18 17:42, Digital Man wrote to sPINOZa <=-

    A single forward-slash works too (even on Windows).

    Handy to know, so my examples would work on Windows with a "c:" in front of them, assuming the paths were otherwise the same. :)

    Yup. And if "C:" is the current drive, you don't even need that.

    digital man

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  • From SysOp@21:1/116.1 to Vk3jed on Tue Sep 25 16:26:40 2018
    21

    This is expected behaviour. Your default zone for your tosser and
    mailer are different. You need to configure all domains in binkd to
    have the same default zone. For example:

    Hiya, its working now, just what you wrote. First I added a non configured domain and I changed the zones ....

    Gtx,
    sPi

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Digital Man on Wed Sep 26 08:20:00 2018
    On 09-24-18 21:09, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Handy to know, so my examples would work on Windows with a "c:" in front of them, assuming the paths were otherwise the same. :)

    Yup. And if "C:" is the current drive, you don't even need that.

    I never assume where I am in the filesystem. That's a route to heartache and tears, or at least losing one's hair (from pulling it out)! :D I either explicitly specify paths, or setup the default location (the latter, especially in scripts and batch files).


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to SysOp on Wed Sep 26 08:23:00 2018
    On 09-25-18 16:26, SysOp wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    21

    This is expected behaviour. Your default zone for your tosser and
    mailer are different. You need to configure all domains in binkd to
    have the same default zone. For example:

    Hiya, its working now, just what you wrote. First I added a non
    configured domain and I changed the zones ....

    Cool. :) Yeah I worked it out by watching what tossers and mailers did, particularly integrated ones like Mystic, then I could work out suitable configs for separate tosser/mailer combos like my sbbsecho/binkd setup.


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