• fsxNet under Synchronet...

    From mastermind@21:1/101 to All on Sun Jun 14 09:21:38 2020
    So, I'm having a bit of an issue with getting fsx running under Synchro.

    Is there any WIKIs that discuss how to get an FTN running under Sync? Or
    better yet, an fsxNet guide?

    I'm getting my hands dirty and have been trying to work my way through the install - but there is limited resources about this topic. There is some info about getting Fidonet going, and thats what i was working off of.

    At any rate, if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance.
    I'll update with any good stuff I find - altho I've been stuck for a while.

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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to mastermind on Sun Jun 14 09:08:52 2020
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    Re: fsxNet under Synchronet...
    By: mastermind to All on Sun Jun 14 2020 09:21 am

    So, I'm having a bit of an issue with getting fsx running under Synchro.

    What issues are you having?

    I use Synchronet for all my FTN traffic (including FSX) and it works well.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to mastermind on Sat Jun 13 17:43:48 2020
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    Hello mastermind,

    So, I'm having a bit of an issue with getting fsx running under
    Synchro.

    There are quite a few steps needed to add network areas to Synchronet.

    Is there any WIKIs that discuss how to get an FTN running under Sync?
    Or better yet, an fsxNet guide?

    I don't know of an fsxNet guide but the synchronet wiki is has info about SBBSecho and all parts of Synchronet and BBSs generally.

    http://wiki.synchro.net

    http://wiki.synchro.net/util:sbbsecho

    I'm getting my hands dirty and have been trying to work my way through
    the install - but there is limited resources about this topic. There
    is some info about getting Fidonet going, and thats what i was working
    off of.

    Working off the fido info should be enough although the zones and message areas

































































































































































































































    will be different.

    At any rate, if anyone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

    To start be sure your AKAs are added to synchronet..

    scfg -> Networks -> Fidonet Echomail and Netmail -> System Addresses

    You also need to add or import the message areas into Synchronet.

    scfg -> Message Areas

    Be sure to also add these areas to your data/areas.bbs

    Also, make sure the settings in echocfg area what you want them to be and also binkit (these setting are in echocfg) if you use that.

    Aside from that if you tell us what problems you are having we could supply better answers.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Sun Jun 14 21:10:00 2020
    On 06-14-20 09:21, mastermind wrote to All <=-

    So, I'm having a bit of an issue with getting fsx running under
    Synchro.

    Is there any WIKIs that discuss how to get an FTN running under Sync?
    Or better yet, an fsxNet guide?

    Should be soething on wiki.synchro.net. While this page is Fidonet specific (not directly useful), the links at the bottom cover all of the components ued for FTNs.

    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet

    I'm getting my hands dirty and have been trying to work my way through
    the install - but there is limited resources about this topic. There is some info about getting Fidonet going, and thats what i was working off of.

    What problems are you having?


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to alterego on Sun Jun 14 21:11:00 2020
    On 06-14-20 09:08, alterego wrote to mastermind <=-

    Re: fsxNet under Synchronet...
    By: mastermind to All on Sun Jun 14 2020 09:21 am

    So, I'm having a bit of an issue with getting fsx running under Synchro.

    What issues are you having?

    I use Synchronet for all my FTN traffic (including FSX) and it works
    well.

    It works well here. :)


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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Jun 22 05:11:04 2020
    http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet

    I'm getting my hands dirty and have been trying to work my way throug the install - but there is limited resources about this topic. There some info about getting Fidonet going, and thats what i was working o of.

    What problems are you having?

    I suppose the true problem is that I don't grasp how FTN message networks
    work and toss the mail - therefor I'm having a hard time setting up all the different functions that need to happen. That, and the fact that the sync
    wiki mainly talks about setting up FidoNet, not a fsxNet style FTN, and I'm just lost.

    Maybe I need to research FTN networks FIRST... get a grasp on all the vocabulary and what HAPPENS... and then go back in with a broader understanding.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Mon Jun 22 15:06:00 2020
    On 06-22-20 05:11, mastermind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I suppose the true problem is that I don't grasp how FTN message
    networks work and toss the mail - therefor I'm having a hard time
    setting up all the different functions that need to happen. That, and
    the fact that the sync wiki mainly talks about setting up FidoNet, not
    a fsxNet style FTN, and I'm just lost.

    FTNs are basically the same, in that they use the same technology to move mail.
    It's just that the addresses used are different, and there's administrative differences too. The only parts specific to Fidonet are the application process - Fidonet's "official" application process might seem arcane, but it was developed in the 1980s, and it served to show the Net Coordinator (NC) that the BBS applying had a working FTN setup.

    Maybe I need to research FTN networks FIRST... get a grasp on all the vocabulary and what HAPPENS... and then go back in with a broader understanding.

    Yes, that would give you a good grounding in the technology. The main components of a FTN system are:

    Applications:
    Netmail - messages from user@BBS1 to user2@BBS2 analagous to Internet email. Echomail - discussion groups, analagus to Usenet newsgroups or discussion groups on a web forum, that are transferred between BBSs.
    File echos - Files that are automatically transferred between systems, and structured into groups (file areas)

    System components:
    Mailer - this transfers echomail, netmail and files between systems. Originally, this was done at specific times using dialup modems. Today, the bulk of mail sessions are done over the Internet at any time.

    Tosser (or tosser/scanner). This scans netmail and echomail posted on the BBS and packs it for the mailer to send. The tosser also "tosses" (i.e. processes) incoming mail received by the mailerc and imports it into the BBS and/or packs it for distribution to the next system(s) downstream.

    TIC processor - names after the control files used for managing file echos (*.TIC), the TIC processor routes files from file echos to and from the BBS. The TIC files tell the TIC processor what files beling in what file echo, and what systems are to receive the file.

    BBS - the BBS is the user interface, where users can send and receive mail, download files, etc.

    The above are the main software components of a FTN system. They may be separate packages, as was common in the 90s (examples below), or all in one.

    Examples:
    All in one systems (though can use some separate components):
    Mystic
    Synchronet

    Separate software (my DOS based 1990s system):
    BBS - Remote Access
    Tosser - Fmail or Fastecho (changed depending on needs)
    TIC processor - Allfix
    Mailer - BinkleyTerm

    My current Synchronet system is a bit of a hybrid:
    Mailer - BinkD
    Tosser SBBSEcho (Synchronet native)
    TIC Processor - TickIT (Synchronet native)
    BBS - Synchronet.

    Anyway, hope that helps. :)
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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 23 15:01:28 2020
    My current Synchronet system is a bit of a hybrid:
    Mailer - BinkD
    Tosser SBBSEcho (Synchronet native)
    TIC Processor - TickIT (Synchronet native)
    BBS - Synchronet.

    Anyway, hope that helps. :)


    Actually, it does... your setup is similar to mine, I'm trying to get fsxNet rocking on my Synchro install... at any rate, thanks for the reply as it did break it down for me. IMO The synchro docs lack in the ftn department, but thats fine -- I know digman relies on QWK and it seems to be much easier to implement as well...

    Cya on DoveNet, and appreciate the help vk. :P It might take me a bit but
    I'll get fsx rocking under sync at some point...

    You know, being 2020, the bbs is at the end of the line in urgency - so thats also probably why I haven't gotten it working yet too... one day soon.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Tue Jun 23 20:10:00 2020
    On 06-23-20 15:01, mastermind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Actually, it does... your setup is similar to mine, I'm trying to get fsxNet rocking on my Synchro install... at any rate, thanks for the
    reply as it did break it down for me. IMO The synchro docs lack in the
    ftn department, but thats fine -- I know digman relies on QWK and it
    seems to be much easier to implement as well...

    Once you've setup a FTN or two, it becomes easier, and you'll be able to add a new net in a few minutes (I do that routinely myself now - but I have over a dozen FTNs setup, meaning plenty of practice!). :)

    Cya on DoveNet, and appreciate the help vk. :P It might take me a bit
    but I'll get fsx rocking under sync at some point...

    Yell out if you need a hand. :)


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