In my experience people prefering a free OS usually means a pirate co of windows.
Nowadays purchasing windows means you have to use windows 10. So, if someone wants to use an older version of windows for whatever reason, it must be pirated. Kind of a bummer.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
I'm not currently, but I've been toying with the idea of trying to run XP in hyper-v, if there's a way to do it in Azure. Perhaps I'll try one of these out. I don't suppose you have proper links to recent builds that are...trustworthy? :)
Is anyone here running Tiny7, TinyXP or MicroXP? I'm curious as to
whether they're stripped down enough to run safely in an environment
where the base OS isn't being patched by Microsoft any more.
Is anyone here running Tiny7, TinyXP or MicroXP? I'm curious as to whether they're stripped down enough to run safely in an environment where the base OS isn't being patched by Microsoft any more.
I'm not currently, but I've been toying with the idea of trying to run
XP in hyper-v, if there's a way to do it in Azure. Perhaps I'll try one
of these out. I don't suppose you have proper links to recent builds that are...trustworthy? :)
Is anyone here running Tiny7, TinyXP or MicroXP? I'm curious as to whether they're stripped down enough to run safely in an environment where the base OS isn't being patched by Microsoft any more.
I'd hope that stripping the OS down to the bare mininum would minimize the overall vulnerability.
NuSkooler wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Are you trying to _not_ get patched? That's a much larger attack vector than allowing MS to fix bugs for you. ...but, I don't think they do actually apply to these stripped down versions anway IIRC. Best run in
a VM that is cut off from the rest of the network/etc. at a bare
minimum.
I wonder if you or anyone else ever tried using ReactOS? It's a Windows clone, free, opensource I think, but is binary compatible, which means
it's a drop-in replacement type thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS
You can install it and then theoretically any Windows application should run on it, only it's not Microsoft OS it's ReactOS!
Might be worth a check as it's still supported and might do exactly what you're needing.
I wonder if you or anyone else ever tried using ReactOS?
It's a Windows clone, free, opensource I think, but is binary compatible, which means it's a drop-in replacement type thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS
I wonder how this would work with some of the old dos doors. I'm not a
fan of Microsoft, but dosemu can be a pain sometimes and there are some doors that just don't work with it.
Any chance you can test Mystic as well? And TWGS, ambroshia 4.5, "new" usurper... :)
I played around with it for a few hours today (it's a holiday for us up here in Canada) and found it very unstable so I gave up on it. Not something I would want running my bbs.
It really felt like a huge install of WINE.
That's disappointing, after reading about it and from things i've heard
in the past about it I thought it would be a win... sorry that you
wasted time on it.
That's disappointing, after reading about it and from things i've hea in the past about it I thought it would be a win... sorry that you wasted time on it.
No need to apologize. It was fun to fuck around with it and it's a great product if you need something to run here or there on Windows, just not something that is solid and reliable for unattended use.
Well, I felt a little bad as it was my suggestion lol, I didn't really think that it would be that unstable, I just figured that it's still supported AND runs all the windows binaries so it would kinda fit the
bill as an alround general win. Oh well, I guess you'll have to move to *nix =)
I wonder if you or anyone else ever tried using ReactOS?
It's a Windows clone, free, opensource I think, but is binary
compatible, which means it's a drop-in replacement type thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS
I want to be a fan of ReactOS, I really do.
But its just not stable or reliable enough for serious long-term operation. Some things about it are still, in 2019, so amazingly crude or Windows 95-ish, half-assed and even the name of it is... questionable.
Seems like ReactOS hasn't changed much since I started looking at it in 2007 It's still not stable enough for serious long-term use. And I heard it had already been around for a while even in 2007. I don't really have any hope that it will become a serious stable OS any time soon.
I will be the first to admit that I'm getting older and more
stubborn/jaded towards just wanting a nice little hobby to come home
to, where I can reply to your message and I know for a fact things
work. I'm too busy to experiment
with something else.... maybe I'm not a "true Sysop" anymore.
I would say you're more of a "true sysop" than me. I'm one of the ones
who like to tinker and play. It's really a subjective thing though, but
in terms of "System Operator" I would say the one who keeps his system operating is more a sysop than one who keeps breaking it with experimentation.
I had a bit of fun with ReactOS a few weeks back, I got my Titan BBS
running on it, though unfortunatly couldn't get doors working (I think netfoss doesn't work) although the doors themselves ran fine.
There are two types of BBS Sysops - Those that like to tinker with the workings of BBS software and OS's, and those like me who have invested enough time and customizing to just want it to "work" for exchanging messages, playing doors etc. For me this includes not messing around with the OS.
I will be the first to admit that I'm getting older and more stubborn/jaded towards just wanting a nice little hobby to come home to, where I can reply to your message and I know for a fact things work. I'm too busy to experiment with something else.... maybe I'm not a "true Sysop" anymore.
I cannot port my BBS or especially the Fido operation here off of Windows even though both are largely DOS and will work in native MS-DOS if need be. That stuff has remained largely unchanged here since 1993. But its dialup, Telnet, BinkD and MakeNL that I just do not trust to another OS since its so incredibly dependant on DOS and Windows-specific API calls.
I am aware that it's not ready for "production", but they have come a
long way I think, and kept at it all those years despite all the negative feedback. Linux took off because Minix wasn't readily available (at the time), ReactOS I think hasn't taken off because MS Windows is readily available. So yeah, I see reactos as a glass half full rather than half empty. Will it ever rival Windows, probably not, but it's still an impressive piece of work.
feedback. Linux took off because Minix wasn't readily available (at the a>time), ReactOS I think hasn't taken off because MS Windows is readily a>available. So yeah, I see reactos as a glass half full rather than half a>empty. Will it ever rival Windows, probably not, but it's still an a>impressive piece of work.
RE: Re: Tiny7, MicroXP/TinyXP and Security?
BY: apam (21:1/125)
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 13:50, Apam (21:1/125) wrote:
feedback. Linux took off because Minix wasn't readily available (at a>time), ReactOS I think hasn't taken off because MS Windows is readil a>available. So yeah, I see reactos as a glass half full rather than h a>empty. Will it ever rival Windows, probably not, but it's still an a>impressive piece of work.
I think you meant that Linux took off because 386bsd and the Free/Net/OpenBSD ilk wasn't readily available at the time, sort of.
I think you meant that Linux took off because 386bsd and the Free/Net/OpenBSD ilk wasn't readily available at the time, sort of.
Ok. My point was though, that since the beginning of ReactOS, Windows has a>always been readily available. There was no itch to scratch. The masses a>aren't getting behind it because they've got windows and it's better (and a>they don't care about free software).
However, I think Linux's use spread primarily due to the Free Software / GPL mindset that it came with.
Ok. My point was though, that since the beginning of ReactOS, Windows has always been readily available. There was no itch to scratch. The masses aren't getting behind it because they've got windows and it's better (and they don't care about free software).
Many people who buy a pre-built PC with Windows pre-installed probably probably prefer something that's free, as long as it's compatible with what they want to run, and stable. And if something free like ReactOS could bring down that cost of a pre-built PC, people might prefer it as well.
Re: Re: Tiny7, MicroXP/TinyXP and Security?
By: Nightfox to apam on Fri May 24 2019 05:16 pm
Many people who buy a pre-built PC with Windows pre-installed proba probably prefer something that's free, as long as it's compatible w
they want to run, and stable. And if something free like ReactOS c bring down that cost of a pre-built PC, people might prefer it as w
Low income people prefer a free OS too. Many don't get a choice.
They defenitly don't need to be pulled into the Microsoft "Web".
Many people who buy a pre-built PC with Windows pre-installed probably probably prefer something that's free, as long as it's compatible with they want to run, and stable. And if something free like ReactOS could bring down that cost of a pre-built PC, people might prefer it as well.
Low income people prefer a free OS too. Many don't get a choice. They defenitly don't need to be pulled into the Microsoft "Web".
In my experience people prefering a free OS usually means a pirate copy
of windows.
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