If it does indeed work out well, then Paul, this might be a feature of FSXnet as a secure Fido Network :) The beauty of this software, is that its NOT an all or nothing setup. Folks can still choose to have public internet incoming telnet/binkp, etc in addition to having this secure network between systems.
Let me know if you are interested in playing with this...
I am :) It looks really interesting Deon. Let me read all of the above again and start to have a play with it. I will post some follow up feedback and questions here in the next couple of days.My first thought was how secure/reliable/reputable etc. is the vendor offering the
service? I'll start to do some research of my own tonight when I have
some time.
On 04-09-19 06:53, deon wrote to All <=-
I wanted to make a proposal. I recently discovered, what I think, is a really cool piece of software - ZeroTier. Anybody played with it?
I have a ZeroTier address now, how do you want me to send it to you?
On 04-09-19 10:40, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 09 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
I have a ZeroTier address now, how do you want me to send it to you?
You can post it here, or netmail me.
Also, make sure you "join" the network so that I can correlate your address to the pending joins. I think I can give you two addresses as
well - lets see ;)
OK, which network do I join?
Anyway, if any body is interested, Ive setup a ZeroTier network for BBS "traffic" - specifically to test on for FSXnet (and you shouldnt notice
if you dont use it).
This is really interesting! I've just installed it on my MBP and my ID is 9dfde24895.
When I click join network I get 3 options
[x] managed [ ] allow global [ ] allow default route
So if you want to setup a hub or something with me to ping-pong traffic, we can try that out.
On 04-09-19 11:29, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 09 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
OK, which network do I join?
This one: a47cf4a8c0001500
On 04-09-19 20:58, deon wrote to MeaTLoTioN <=-
Let it as is. I havent explored what that "managed" or allow global
does yet - but leave allow default route unchecked - you want to use
your original default route for other greater internet traffic.
root@lemaker:~# zerotier-cli join a47cf4a8c0001500
root@lemaker:~# zerotier-cli join a47cf4a8c0001500
Done, you are setup. You should be able to connect to my BBS on the address gave previously. I'll connect to you as well and test this out.
Can you redo me using this node id please: 886642e222
Out of curiousity, what does your "listpeers" look like.
Done - I see you online :)
200 listpeers a3511e316e 101.165.22.219/33269;8719;3709 351 1.2.12 LEAF 200 listpeers a47cf4a8c0 103.231.88.156/9993;5512;5512 332 1.2.12 LEAF
200 listpeers c90b9235de 101.165.22.219/48424;2234;7415 442 1.2.12 LEAF
Boom! awesome stuff... does this mean we can now play a network game of Doom? lol.
On 10 Apr 2019, MeaTLoTioN said the following...
200 listpeers a3511e316e 101.165.22.219/33269;8719;3709 351 1.2.12 LE 200 listpeers a47cf4a8c0 103.231.88.156/9993;5512;5512 332 1.2.12 LEA 200 listpeers c90b9235de 101.165.22.219/48424;2234;7415 442 1.2.12 LE
Is me :)
I couldnt connect to your BBS on port 23 or 24554 using IPv6 (connection refused), but IPv4 works :)
On 04-10-19 02:32, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 10 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
root@lemaker:~# zerotier-cli join a47cf4a8c0001500
Out of curiousity, what does your "listpeers" look like.
I've created a "moon" (actually two) which completely removes the dependancy of zerotiers "roots" (aka "earth"). So, wondering if you've config has discovered them.
On 04-10-19 06:49, MeaTLoTioN wrote to deon <=-
I disabled IPv6 on my BBS as having it enabled had caused issues on my home network where for some reason it prevented me logging in with
either IPv4 or IPv6 lol. I'll look into it and hopefully enable it this evening when I get home from work =)
Well, I seem to have an IP address, though 1 isn't enough to get both boards on the VLAN. :)
200 listpeers 8841408a2e 45.32.246.179/9993;3775;3682 92 1.1.5 PLANET
200 listpeers 9d219039f3 128.199.197.217/9993;13793;8607 217 1.1.5 PLANET 200 listpeers a47cf4a8c0 103.231.88.156/9993;18798;11935 74 1.2.12 LEAF 200 listpeers c90b9235de 101.165.22.219/12809;695;1607 94 1.2.12 LEAF
Cool project Deon!!
On 04-10-19 07:18, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 10 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
Well, I seem to have an IP address, though 1 isn't enough to get both boards on the VLAN. :)
I just have you a second IPv6 address. Do you see it?
was how secure/reliable/reputable etc. is the vendor offering the service? I'll start to do some research of my own tonight when I have some time.
So if you want to setup a hub or something with me to ping-pong traffic, we can try that out.
Just starting to look at getting installed now. Looks like I need a later .NET framework, installing that as I type.
On 04-10-19 07:26, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 10 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
200 listpeers 8841408a2e 45.32.246.179/9993;3775;3682 92 1.1.5 PLANET
200 listpeers 9d219039f3 128.199.197.217/9993;13793;8607 217 1.1.5 PLANET 200 listpeers a47cf4a8c0 103.231.88.156/9993;18798;11935 74 1.2.12 LEAF 200 listpeers c90b9235de 101.165.22.219/12809;695;1607 94 1.2.12 LEAF
Cool, the bottom two are me. They show up as LEAFs because you've sent traffic through them. If you do "zerotier-cli orbit a47cf4a8c0 a47cf4a8c0", they should change to "moon" in listpeers.
As a (preferred) moon, your system will route packets through them to
find other systems. Once you have found another system, its a peer to
peer (direct) conversation with the peer.
On 04-10-19 07:28, deon wrote to MeaTLoTioN <=-
On 10 Apr 2019, MeaTLoTioN said the following...
Cool project Deon!!
It is :)
Now with Tony on the secure network, we can have conversations about cricket and nobody will understand us. Oh, wait, they dont anyway right ???? ;)
Send me a message (reply to this or a netmail) with your 10 hex network
ID (its public and safe to share). Ill authorise you to join the
(or IP address in IP networks). Select "Join Network" and join this network ID: a47cf4a8c0001500. (If you are using an installation without
On a more serious note, how do we find each other's systems on the
virtual LAN?
09613a7f1c
Seems like a limit to this whole thing may be the number of nodes that
can join a network being limited to 100 or you have to pay $$ to add
more?
On 04-10-19 12:06, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 10 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
On a more serious note, how do we find each other's systems on the
virtual LAN?
Since its an (virtual) ethernet device, its normal IP resolution. If
this works out, we should have a DNS server resolving our addresses.
I am assigning static IPs - using FTN addressing, so for now those one
the network can be found by their FTN->IP address. Its covered in my
first note.
Have you ever tried blindly finding the IP address of other devices on a lightly populated Ethernet segment? ;) Oh, DNS could get, umm, "interesting", here, given the number of networks I'm on (now 6 lol).
On 04-10-19 23:48, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
So from an implementation point of view, I was thinking each FTN
network would have its own secure network (and some probably would want that). I dont think there is a limit on an end machine on how many interfaces it has, and normal IP routing controls which route a packet goes out.
Now that doesnt work in your case, since you bind an app to a IP - I
dont, so I could easily have an FSX network, a TQW network, a Fido
(hah!) network, etc, and my BINKD server will happily accept any
incoming connections from the IPs of those virtual ethernet interfaces. (And my benefit is that it wont accept connections from the greater internet - which is why I think this is pretty cool.)
From a DNS resolution point of view, there are two approaches. Since
your address is static (even if it is dynamically created), you could
put that in the DNS for your domain, or the ZC of the Fido Network you
are in could put it in their DNS domain (ahum, Paul fsxnet.nz?). EG: chinwag.fsxnet.nz could resolve to fd00:0:f1d0:0:15:2:74:0, etc.
That would work, though it will add some unreachable hosts on the public DNS. )
On 04-11-19 10:21, deon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 11 Apr 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
That would work, though it will add some unreachable hosts on the public DNS. )
I dont see that being an issue - I've done that for mail relays for
years :)
Once I enable your connection, youll get an IPV6 address that I set as: d>fd00:0:f1d0:0:21:n:f:p/80 - which is like your fsxnet address 21:n/f.p - p i d>zero if you are not a point.) Mine are: fd00:0:f1d0:0:21:2:74:0 (MBSE d>21:2/116) and fd00:0:f1d0:0:21:2:74:1 (Mystic 21:2/116.1).
my ZT id is: f59fbfeba9
... Husbands are like fires. They go out if unattended
On 04-27-19 12:01, Robert Wolfe wrote to Vk3jed <=-
... Husbands are like fires. They go out if unattended
LOL! Stolen!!!
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