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    From xqtr@21:1/111 to All on Fri Jan 4 12:43:34 2019
    I am making a new app that will collect data for BBSes from a JAM base and create a valid list of BBSes.

    Each BBS have to upload a specific file to a JAM base (ex. BOT echomail).
    This file contains info about the bbs and also an ANSI file, as a flyer/advertisement for the BBS.

    The program when will be executed, it will search that JAM base for "info files" and build the list, which the user can see.

    I have built an utility to create this "info file" and because i want some traffic to test the app, i hope that some of you will help, by using it and creating some traffic.

    Use the utility to create the info file.
    The utility will create an Ascii85 text file
    Upload this file once/per day. This way the program will know that your BBS
    is "alive". So the list will be 100% accurate on its data.

    The utility is at: https://github.com/xqtr/xBBSList
    There you will find also two other utilities that un/compress and de/encode a file to the ascii85 format. This way you can also examine the exported file,
    in case you are wondering what data contains.

    If there is some traffic, i will be able to test the main app, which do the collection/sorting thing and it will be released as soon as possible.

    Thank you.

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  • From apam@21:1/125 to xqtr on Sat Jan 5 08:41:38 2019
    If there is some traffic, i will be able to test the main app, which
    do the collection/sorting thing and it will be released as soon as possible.

    Ok, so I made the output.asc, which area should I post it (I think
    FSX_DAT?) also, what should be the subject / to / from etc?

    Andrew

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Sat Jan 5 19:12:42 2019
    On 04 Jan 2019, xqtr pondered and said...

    If there is some traffic, i will be able to test the main app, which do the collection/sorting thing and it will be released as soon as possible.

    Sure happy to help :)

    Looks like linux and Rpi options available, do you plan any windows options?


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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to apam on Sat Jan 5 13:56:46 2019
    Ok, so I made the output.asc, which area should I post it (I think FSX_DAT?) also, what should be the subject / to / from etc?

    First of all thanks that you want to help :)

    I think we should use FSX_DAT. For now the message has to have a subject like this: bbs_ping_project
    No spaces or anything else. But in the future we can rename it something other, cause i don't like it too much :)

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  • From apam@21:1/125 to xqtr on Sat Jan 5 22:01:16 2019
    Ok, so I made the output.asc, which area should I post it (I thin FSX_DAT?) also, what should be the subject / to / from etc?

    First of all thanks that you want to help :)

    No worries, though it might take a little while before I can post it, my
    main linux PC packed it in today, so I'm working on that at present.

    I think we should use FSX_DAT. For now the message has to have a
    subject like this: bbs_ping_project No spaces or anything else. But
    in the future we can rename it something other, cause i don't like
    it too much :)

    OK, will do that soonish.

    Andrew

    --- MagickaBBS v0.12alpha (Linux/x86_64)
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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Avon on Sat Jan 5 14:26:14 2019
    Sure happy to help :)

    Thank you :)

    Looks like linux and Rpi options available, do you plan any windows options?

    I sure do... but my problem is, that i can't find a 100% working DOOR library for pascal. I have tested 3-4 of them, but all of them had issues. The only "good" lib i know, is ODoor but, unfortunately for me, its for C language.

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to xqtr on Sat Jan 5 15:55:02 2019
    Quoting xqtr to All <=-

    If there is some traffic, i will be able to test the main app, which
    do the collection/sorting thing and it will be released as soon as possible.

    Quick question: for this utility it doesn't matter I don't run JAM base
    correct? Since I could run the utility and post it daily in my Ezycom
    BBS? I do also run MagickaBBS which uses JAM though.

    Shawn

    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.
    --- Blue Wave/386
    * Origin: A Tiny slice o pi (21:1/130.4)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Tiny on Sat Jan 5 21:39:40 2019
    Quick question: for this utility it doesn't matter I don't run JAM base
    correct? Since I could run the utility and post it daily in my Ezycom
    BBS? I do also run MagickaBBS which uses JAM though.

    The specific utility just creates a text file... you can post it in any way
    you like. But the main program i am making, will use only JAM bases to search for these files. So BBSes who use another format (ex. sqlite), want be
    possible to use it.

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to xqtr on Sat Jan 5 17:39:50 2019
    The specific utility just creates a text file... you can post it in any way you like. But the main program i am making, will use only JAM bases

    Perfect that's what I though. Just because it's easy to make ezycom
    post. ;)

    Shawn


    --- MagickaBBS v0.12alpha (Linux/armv7l)
    * Origin: A Tiny slice o pi (21:1/130.4)
  • From Shawn Highfield@21:1/130 to xqtr on Sun Jan 6 09:04:46 2019
    Hello xqtr!

    05 Jan 19 21:39, you wrote to me:

    bases to search for these files. So BBSes who use another format (ex. sqlite), want be possible to use it.

    Laugh.... My ezycom auto poster converts the underscore into a space so
    I'll have to post this from the MagickaBBS side of things. ;) No worries.

    Shawn


    ... A fertile imagination is no compensation for vasectomy.
    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20160201
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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jan 6 09:43:32 2019
    Laugh.... My ezycom auto poster converts the underscore into a space so I'll have to post this from the MagickaBBS side of things. ;) No

    Done. ;) Assuming I didn't mess up with cron it should post
    automaticaly every morning for you.

    Shawn


    --- MagickaBBS v0.12alpha (Linux/armv7l)
    * Origin: A Tiny slice o pi (21:1/130.4)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Jan 6 17:13:50 2019
    Laugh.... My ezycom auto poster converts the underscore into a space so I'll have to post this from the MagickaBBS side of things. ;) No

    I can change that in the future, no problem. :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Mon Jan 7 08:33:18 2019
    On 05 Jan 2019, xqtr pondered and said...

    Sure happy to help :)

    Thank you :)

    All done, I ran a test on my RPi system and filled out some, but not all of
    the fields for that system.

    Looks like linux and Rpi options available, do you plan any windows options?

    I sure do... but my problem is, that i can't find a 100% working DOOR library for pascal. I have tested 3-4 of them, but all of them had
    issues. The only "good" lib i know, is ODoor but, unfortunately for me, its for C language.

    I hope you can find something for windows as it would be worth having that OS covered :)


    ÄÄÄÄ Eùavon@bbs.nz ÄÄÄÄÄÄ Wùbbs.nz ÄÄÄ ÄÄÄÄ Kùkeybase.io/avon ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Mon Jan 7 08:52:38 2019
    On 05 Jan 2019, xqtr pondered and said...

    Thank you :)

    Suggestions

    - offer a way so that previously created output.asc can be loaded and updated using the autolist creator

    - perhaps offer a way to change the name of the file being saved so multiple bbs data/lists can be created from the same system e.g agency.asc and crypto.asc ?

    - BBS > System .... i struggled to set a creation date :) also wondered about the tags and the risk that you might get entries like fsxNet, fsxnet, Fsxnet and so on... perhaps a list of some known names to select from if you can be bothered adding that?

    - Admin ... had trouble with 'hours' again kinda hard to know what to load there

    - System ... all seemed fine there, but a thought occurs, as you step through the fields perhaps the software should offer a prompt at the bottom of the screen below the ---- line and above 'esc to go back' that explains the field being selected or gives a brief example, something like Mystic -cfg does as
    you step though the fields?

    - Networks .. all good, but again perhaps offer a list for folks to select known networks from?

    - Distros - I kinda struggled to know what this would be for, is it like the bbs carries Blocktronics, etc.

    - Flyer - didn't add this , does it need to be ans and if so how big/small, could it be .txt or .acs files also?

    Hope this helps

    Best, Paul


    ÄÄÄÄ Eùavon@bbs.nz ÄÄÄÄÄÄ Wùbbs.nz ÄÄÄ ÄÄÄÄ Kùkeybase.io/avon ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Avon on Mon Jan 7 19:56:00 2019
    - offer a way so that previously created output.asc can be loaded and updated using the autolist creator
    - perhaps offer a way to change the name of the file being saved so multiple bbs data/lists can be created from the same system e.g
    agency.asc and crypto.asc ?

    Yeap... will do. I thought it too, after making too many files/entries for the testing... :? :)

    - BBS > System .... i struggled to set a creation date :) also wondered about the tags and the risk that you might get entries like fsxNet, fsxnet, Fsxnet and so on... perhaps a list of some known names to select from if you can be bothered adding that?

    The date is in dd/mm/yy format. Perhaps i will add a help info/suggestion on the bottom of the screen as you said.

    Its impossible to know how the user will write this down FSXNet or Fsxnet for example. I would like to make a list because new networks are created and others are closing down. I don't want to exclude some or need to update each time there is a new or another closed. All the fields are not mandatory and
    can be filled out, in whatever way the user/sysop wants. The data will be presented in a way that it doesn't matter. You can see an example at my bbs in the Various/Auto List section.

    - Flyer - didn't add this , does it need to be ans and if so how big/small, could it be .txt or .acs files also?

    It can be an ANSI (i have some trouble, but i think i will fix it) or simple TEXT/ASC. The size depends on the final compress/encoded file. If i am not mistaken a jam msg can be about 50-80kbs... so if the compressed file that is beeing created by the program is less, there is no problem in that. But less
    is better. Perhaps i'll put a restriction not to flood the network with big msgs.

    Thank you for the suggestions Paul. You are correct in all of them and i will implement them. :)

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to xqtr on Mon Jan 7 22:30:12 2019
    Quoting xqtr to Shawn Highfield <=-

    I can change that in the future, no problem. :)

    I'll check and see if I got cron posting it correctly. ;)

    Shawn

    ... A BAND-AID? Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a... Oh, yeah!
    --- Blue Wave/386
    * Origin: A Tiny slice o pi (21:1/130.4)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Wed Jan 9 20:46:46 2019
    On 07 Jan 2019, xqtr pondered and said...

    Thank you for the suggestions Paul. You are correct in all of them and i will implement them. :)

    I wouldn't say I was correct but hey it's a few suggestions anyways :)

    Sorry I realise I should set up the post to run daily as per request, before
    I do should I pull down an updated version? Can you let me know when you want another test :)


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    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to All on Thu Jan 17 20:42:38 2019
    There have been some updates to the project. You can find the executables and the info at https://github.com/xqtr/xBBSList

    You will also find the viewer program which will collect the data, build the database and display it, so the project its allmost complete. For sure it will need some debugging and after its stabilized i will included options to download the lists.

    More info included in the sysop.txt file.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Fri Jan 18 12:18:56 2019
    On 17 Jan 2019, xqtr pondered and said...

    There have been some updates to the project. You can find the
    executables and the info at https://github.com/xqtr/xBBSList

    You will also find the viewer program which will collect the data, build the database and display it, so the project its allmost complete. For
    sure it will need some debugging and after its stabilized i will
    included options to download the lists.

    Thanks, will update shortly.


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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to All on Sat Jan 19 18:55:00 2019
    Some new features and fixes...

    + Fixed bug, while searching the JAM Base
    + Added capability to search in multiple JAM Bases
    + Added function to search for string in the database
    + Added function to export and download the database in various formats
    Currently supports only text file. CSV and SyncTerm will be added and if
    possible in Netrunner format. Need to figure the format, though... :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Fri Feb 22 12:43:50 2019
    On 19 Jan 2019 at 06:55p, xqtr pondered and said...

    Some new features and fixes...

    + Fixed bug, while searching the JAM Base
    + Added capability to search in multiple JAM Bases
    + Added function to search for string in the database
    + Added function to export and download the database in various

    I have a feeling I did not update to the latest version so am aiming to do so this weekend. Per chance is there a windows version or are you still hampered by available files to compile things for Windows?

    Best, Paul

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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Avon on Fri Feb 22 11:27:14 2019
    I am afraid not. dont have a win pc , so i cant make code, tests etc. sorry.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Sat Feb 23 09:41:00 2019
    On 22 Feb 2019 at 11:27a, xqtr pondered and said...

    I am afraid not. dont have a win pc , so i cant make code, tests etc. sorry.

    OK all good, thanks.

    Best, Paul

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    --- K:keybase.io/avon --------------

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