Question for you all.

I guess I could search for a hour but may be able to get a reply here also
and more details.

What does everyone think of the Android or the Intel mini boards? I like the idea of having more power and memory then pi. (even though I have two pi)
I like the idea of say the Intel board having two to four gigs of ram and running linux on it.

Any ideas, thoughts?


Havok

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What does everyone think of the Android or the Intel mini boards? I like the idea of having more power and memory then pi. (even though I have two pi) I like the idea of say the Intel board having two to four gigs of ram and running linux on it.

I think once you start going for that kind of power maybe an Intel Atom
based PC might be a better way to go, or perhaps an intel NUC or
something. Intel based development boards are usually more expensive.

I bought a MinnowBoard recently it's intel based but only about as
powerful as a Pi.. unfortunatly it didn't work and they don't make them anymore. So that's not really helpful.

Is there a particular reason you want more power? I mean a BBS shouldn't
need too much power, so I guess you want to do something else with it?

Andrew

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Is there a particular reason you want more power? I mean a BBS shouldn't need too much power, so I guess you want to do something else with it?

Morning
it's not really the cpu power, I've been told by Datalus the bbs is fast.
It's the RAM I see while working in the Ubuntu desktop or root that one or
two more gigs of ram would be helpful. Be it Windows or linux the more ram
you throw at it the better.

Thought?


Havok

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Re: Intel
By: Havok to apam on Wed Apr 11 2018 06:37 am

it's not really the cpu power, I've been told by Datalus the bbs is fast. It's the RAM I see while working in the Ubuntu desktop or root that one or two more gigs of ram would be helpful. Be it Windows or linux the more ram you throw at it the better.

On this BBS box that I am logged in on with Synchronet running and
logged on with SyncTERM and opening a new terminal and running htop I see the ram useage is sitting at 212MB.

Let's load up the desktop and see what we get..

344MB. Nothing happening on the desktop, I just ran startx. I run xfce, a lightweight desktop.

More ram is always good.. but how much you need depends on what you want to do.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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it's not really the cpu power, I've been told by Datalus the bbs is
fast. It's the RAM I see while working in the Ubuntu desktop or root
that one or two more gigs of ram would be helpful. Be it Windows or
linux the more ram you throw at it the better.

I cannot speak to the Pi3B+ or to an Intel SBC, but I can say that the 2B+ really does not have the horsepower to run a GUI desktop environment. I recently purged all of the x-server stuff and run mine straight cli. I
pretty much only use it for the Magicka BBS now anyway.

IMHO, it is underpowered for anything but strickly cli stuff.

I have also been somewhat interested in Intel SBCs but, as apam pointed
out, they are more expensive (sometimes by > US$100 vs a Pi) and many of
them are no longer manufactured/supported.

The Udoo X86 is still being made and sold, but they run about US$149.



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Havok wrote to apam <=-

Is there a particular reason you want more power? I mean a BBS shouldn't need too much power, so I guess you want to do something else with it?

Morning
it's not really the cpu power, I've been told by Datalus the bbs is
fast. It's the RAM I see while working in the Ubuntu desktop or root
that one or two more gigs of ram would be helpful. Be it Windows or
linux the more ram you throw at it the better.

Separate desktop operations from the BBS, ditch the GUI and 1G is heaps of RAM. ;)


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I have also been somewhat interested in Intel SBCs but, as apam pointed out, they are more expensive (sometimes by > US$100 vs a Pi) and many of them are no longer manufactured/supported.
The Udoo X86 is still being made and sold, but they run about US$149.

Oh I agree, to have the gui installed dogs the system right out, So for me it is more research and try to figure out what would work best for a noob like
me.

Thanks....


Havok

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Separate desktop operations from the BBS, ditch the GUI and 1G is heaps
of RAM. ;)

Hello again!

When I am up to speed again with linux I must likely will but for now I have
to stay with the gui till I relearn the back end...

Sigh...


Havok

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Separate desktop operations from the BBS, ditch the GUI and 1G is heaps
of RAM. ;)

Hello again!

When I am up to speed again with linux I must likely will but for now I have to stay with the gui till I relearn the back end...

You can always boot to text mode, and if you need the GUI, type "startx" to load it, then exit the GUI when done. :)


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You can always boot to text mode, and if you need the GUI, type "startx" to load it, then exit the GUI when done. :)

Thanks, laughing just like 94 with DOS let me write that tip down.....

Thanks again!


Havok

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You can always boot to text mode, and if you need the GUI, type "startx" to load it, then exit the GUI when done. :)

Thanks, laughing just like 94 with DOS let me write that tip down.....

Except it still works in Linux in 2018. :-)


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On 04/11/18, Havok said the following...

Question for you all.

I guess I could search for a hour but may be able to get a reply here
also and more details.

What does everyone think of the Android or the Intel mini boards? I like the idea of having more power and memory then pi. (even though I have
two pi) I like the idea of say the Intel board having two to four gigs
of ram and running linux on it.

I've often thought the same thing and have looked at getting an INTEL NUC
but it gets to be way more than I want to spend on a PC. I'm also in to
having as little fan noise and power usage as possible, so those seem prohibative.

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I've often thought the same thing and have looked at getting an INTEL
NUC but it gets to be way more than I want to spend on a PC. I'm also
in to having as little fan noise and power usage as possible, so those seem prohibative.

Reducing power usage, while having at least one machine that is still intel-compatable, is my reason for being sometimes interested in an Intel
SBC. The price always makes my interest wane. :)



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