I wonder. Is John Dailey, the creator of Barren Realms Elite reachable anywhere? I was thinking about asking him about possibility to run his doors on Linux. But the mail returns as undelivered.
As far as I know, he's not actually the creator, just the IP owner. In
any case, all of the jdsoftware doors run fine for me in dosemu.
I wonder. Is John Dailey, the creator of Barren Realms Elite reachable anywhere? I was thinking about asking him about possibility to run his doors on Linux. But the mail returns as undelivered.
I wonder. Is John Dailey, the creator of Barren Realms Elite reachable anywhere? I was thinking about asking him about possibility to run his doors on Linux. But the mail returns as undelivered.
Hello All,
I wonder. Is John Dailey, the creator of Barren Realms Elite reachable anywhere? I was thinking about asking him about possibility to run his doors on Linux. But the mail returns as undelivered.
Thanks in advance
On 03/23/18, shinobi said the following...
I wonder. Is John Dailey, the creator of Barren Realms Elite reachabl anywhere? I was thinking about asking him about possibility to run hi doors on Linux. But the mail returns as undelivered.
Well, John Dailey isn't the creator. He bought the game and source code quite awhile ago.
Last year, I tried registering BRE, FE and FH, as I couldn't find my registration codes anymore. The company that he uses for the
registration is still in business, but even they were unable to contact him to obtain the codes. So, for all practical purposes, those games are now abandonware... :(
Last year, I tried registering BRE, FE and FH, as I couldn't find my registration codes anymore. The company that he uses for the registration is still in business, but even they were unable to conta him to obtain the codes. So, for all practical purposes, those games now abandonware... :(
Have any of you attempted: http://www.johndaileysoftware.com/support/contact.asp
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On 03/23/18, Pequito said the following...
Last year, I tried registering BRE, FE and FH, as I couldn't fin registration codes anymore. The company that he uses for the registration is still in business, but even they were unable to him to obtain the codes. So, for all practical purposes, those g now abandonware... :(
Have any of you attempted: http://www.johndaileysoftware.com/support/contact.asp
Yup. I've sent multiple messages via this form. The registration company, SWReg, also tried contacting him. There was no response from John at all...
This was the response I received from SWReg:
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We apologize for the confusion.
We have a policy regarding vendors who does not respond, we initially requested for the fullfillment however you confirmed that they did not respond.
We recently requested a refund to serve as a final reminder to the vendor regarding the request.
We have written an email to the software author of Elite Bundle on your behalf regarding your request for a refund, and have asked the author to respond directly to you. If you do not receive a response from the
vendor within 2 business days, we are authorized to refund the order for you.
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Last year, I tried registering BRE, FE and FH, as I couldn't find my registration codes anymore. The company that he uses for the
registration is still in business, but even they were unable to contact him to obtain the codes. So, for all practical purposes, those games are now abandonware... :(
I had gone this way and yes all his software runs on linux via dosemu or qemu very nicely. :)
Hello Pequito,
I had gone this way and yes all his software runs on linux via dosemu qemu very nicely. :)
Thanks I'll give it a try. Until now I'm able to run dosemu with the parameter dumb. But there is quite a long way to go.
Ouch OK here is what my dosemu.conf looks like:
Check out Gryphon's qemu tut can be used for dosemu as well and what I used to help make the process easier when setting up doors in linux.
https://goo.gl/TXmGRH
Hello Pequito,
Ouch OK here is what my dosemu.conf looks like:
Check out Gryphon's qemu tut can be used for dosemu as well and what used to help make the process easier when setting up doors in linux.
https://goo.gl/TXmGRH
Thanks so much. I guess You saved me hours of reinventing the Wheels.
Thanks so much for the response. I wonder could You please provide a
bit more detailed instructions on howto run the doors in dosemu?
That's everything I know about DOSEMU. Good luck.
That's everything I know about DOSEMU. Good luck.
Wow. Thanks so much. I'll give it a try. I tried qemu but it seems to
me a bit overkill. However this seems more lightweight.
I talked with Chuck (The actual Sysop of our board) and said there was something he had to configure in DOSEMU before it would work, but that very well may be what Pequito gave you for the dosemu.conf file.
It's quite a shame that the world of BBS didn't go for open-source
sooner. More gems would have been preserved.
to work well, but without the source nobody can fix any of the broken
bits here and there. It is what it is. A sad tale of one of the best turning to dust.
For now, we have it running under DOSEMU on a Linux system and that seems to work well, but without the source nobody can fix any of the broken
bits here and there. It is what it is. A sad tale of one of the best turning to dust.
For now, we have it running under DOSEMU on a Linux system and th
to work well, but without the source nobody can fix any of the br
bits here and there. It is what it is. A sad tale of one of the turning to dust.
Every human labor is only temporary in this world. The DOSEMU is
nice. But it's obstacle in continuity. On Linux I do not really trust
the games will stop working. On Windows side. Who knows. They dropped
x16. Why wouldn't they drop the x32?
Wow. Thanks so much. I'll give it a try. I tried qemu but it seems to
me a bit overkill. However this seems more lightweight.
This highlights the risk of single point dependency combined with a
closed source model. When the wheels fall off it's neigh impossible to
put them back on - sadly.
There's a technical reason why they had to drop x16. That's why it's available in the 32bit version of w10, but not the 64bit version. Sure, they could have emulated it just as well as anyone else could and it
would probably would have better interfacing with other apps, be it 32 or 64 bit, but given the technical reasons for dropping it, emulating
doesn't make sense from their standpoint. The mass market just isn't there for the added work it would have taken to accomplish. That part I understand once I read all the info on why it was dropped in the first place.
If you are setting up qemu to call a DOS door, how does the "actual server" (i.e. the linux host where the BBS is) communicate with the DOS door that is running on the qemu virtual server?
There's a technical reason why they had to drop x16. That's why available in the 32bit version of w10, but not the 64bit version.
they could have emulated it just as well as anyone else could and would probably would have better interfacing with other apps, be
64 bit, but given the technical reasons for dropping it, emulatin doesn't make sense from their standpoint. The mass market just i there for the added work it would have taken to accomplish. That understand once I read all the info on why it was dropped in the place.
What I always thought was following "conspiracy". When commercial
firm drops any support of any product then the customer is forced to
follow the never-ending process of upgrading, updating or replacing
his product with newer versions. Thus brining nice additional cash to
the manufacturer and seller.
I could buy the conspiracy if 16 bit was dropped the moment 32bit came available and 32bit dropped the moment 64bit became available, but all in all, they did support 16 bit as long as they could and still have 16bit support in the 32bit version.
I wish I could find the article I read about it a couple months back when I was looking at running 16bit software on win10 64bit. It laid out all the technical reasons why 16bit support had to be dropped.
So, in conclusion, it's not like they didn't try. They tried, they
failed and finally said we'll have to give it up to make it run at 64
bit. The only thing remaining would be emulation, but to them that is like re-inventing the cog when most people don't use cogs anymore, they use pulleys.
I wish I could find the article I read about it a couple months back when I was looking at running 16bit software on win10 64bit. It laid out all the technical reasons why 16bit support had to be dropped.
I only read about half the article because most of it was over my head. Just a vague recollection. Bits and bobs don't fit right with the new fandangoled thingy which handles the dohicky differently that is needed for the 64 bit to operate at faster speeds properly and thus in turn
drops the bits and bobs from the 16 bit side and just crashes whatever
you try to run.
<SNIP>There's a technical reason why they had to drop x16. That's why it's available in the 32bit version of w10, but not the 64bit version. Su
What I always thought was following "conspiracy". When commercial firm drops any support of any product then the customer is forced to follow
the never-ending process of upgrading, updating or replacing his product with newer versions. Thus brining nice additional cash to the
manufacturer and seller.
bcw142 wrote to shinobi <=-
No, it's more the 'bigger, better, faster' thing. We think our
computers take a long time to boot up now, but the original IBMPC took tens of minutes and couldn't even address the amount of memory we use
When you put a modern x86_64 into 64-bit "long" mode, you must enable protected mode paging (using at least 4-level page tables at that).
This both turns off 8086 segmentation (except for some very limited
uses) and disables rings 1 and 2: whereas x86 had four protection
rings in 32 bit and lower modes, 64-bit only has user and kernel (or
3 and 0, respectively).
Basically, to be in 64-bit mode, you have to be in protected mode,
and cannot be in real mode. Hence, real mode addressing does not work
and emulating it is a pain.
Well.... I did say that "The bits and bobs don't fit" which is exactly word for word what you said.... just in lamens terms. :P
On 03/29/18, GeekDoctor pondered and said...
Well.... I did say that "The bits and bobs don't fit" which is exact word for word what you said.... just in lamens terms. :P
I'd say a case of the do hickey not fitting in the who jab...
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