shinobi wrote to All <=-
Hello All,
I wonder. How does one connect to DoveNET Using Mystic?
Is there any HUB that would let me sign up for the access?
I saw something like QWK option. Is it the preferred way to poll for
mail for the whole Mystic BBS?
I wonder. How does one connect to DoveNET Using Mystic?
Is there any HUB that would let me sign up for the access?
I saw something like QWK option. Is it the preferred way to poll for
mail for the whole Mystic BBS?
I prefer FTN, it has a better feature set, but some networks are only distributed via QWK. QWK is also easier to setup, all you need to do is:
I'm getting the messages from DoveNet here. The only problem, for some reason, I can't send any messages into the network... I'm still trying to figure that one out... It seems to be happening on all QWK networks.
I'm getting the messages from DoveNet here. The only problem, for some reason, I can't send any messages into the network... I'm still trying to figure that one out... It seems to be happening on all QWK networks.
I wonder. How does one connect to DoveNET Using Mystic?
Is there any HUB that would let me sign up for the access?
I saw something like QWK option. Is it the preferred way to poll for
mail for the whole Mystic BBS?
I'm getting the messages from DoveNet here. The only problem, for som reason, I can't send any messages into the network... I'm still tryin figure that one out... It seems to be happening on all QWK networks.
What does the output of qwpoll say about the upload?
If you have questions.. we are here. :)
Black Panther wrote to Al <=-
I just ran a test post, and ran ./qwkpoll all export. It gave me:
zip I/O error: Permission denied
zip error: Could not create output file (/MOJO.rep)
I think I just figured out what I have been doing wrong... If I post a message, and run the command of ./qwkpoll all export tempqwk, it seems
to process them just fine...
zip I/O error: Permission denied
zip error: Could not create output file (/MOJO.rep)
I think I just figured out what I have been doing wrong... If I post a message, and run the command of ./qwkpoll all export tempqwk, it seems to process them just fine...
Log on to Vertrauen and download dove-net.txt. It has all the
instructions and message areas listed.
I do have the instructions. However I'm still investigating issue that happens to me. When I pollqwk for the mail the system connect, and tries to download the file. However it's looking for vert.qwk and cannot find it. When I connect to vert and let the system generate the file then
it is possible to download. I think there is some issue with Linux
in this case when it expects UPPERCASE and cannot get LOWERCASE (vert.qwk vs. VERT.qwk). I tried to change the case of the file in the config
but it doesn't help at all.
I have a couple thoughts also about Dove-NET <-> Mystic settings for your consideration..
Before I'll experiment with the setting too much. I wonder.
Is there need to setup anything like target for the message
bases? I guess there is something like Export to settings
for the FTN networks. I didn't configure that one for the
DOVENet. Hope that's correct.
I want to thank You for Your help and support. So far I'm able to sent & receive messages from DoveNET via QWK.
When I first joined dove-net I cut and pasted the list of areas into an .NA file for mutil to import with the Import_FIDONET.NA option then
needed just a few edits of the areas for QWK Hub etc.
I saw your message in the Dove-NET sysops area. It looked good here.. :) Al> Thanks.
That reminded me one thing. Originally why I started BBSing after that years was that I was looking for the remaining FidoNET fragments. When I connect to Vertrauren is that possible to poll FidoNET too? When I was in 90's bbsing there was a joy using the FidoNET. At that times I had only dial-up and a FidoNET point (and BlueWave). But I still recall that as an awesome experience.
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shinobi wrote to All <=-
Hello All,
I want to thank You for Your help and support. So far I'm able to sent
& receive messages from DoveNET via QWK.
shinobi wrote to Al <=-
When I first joined dove-net I cut and pasted the list of areas into an .NA file for mutil to import with the Import_FIDONET.NA option then
needed just a few edits of the areas for QWK Hub etc.
That reminded me one thing. Originally why I started BBSing after that years was that I was looking for the remaining FidoNET fragments. When
I connect to Vertrauren is that possible to poll FidoNET too? When I
was in 90's bbsing there was a joy using the FidoNET. At that times I
had only dial-up and a FidoNET point (and BlueWave). But I still recall that as an awesome experience.
But.. why not simply join fidonet and arrange for feeds etc for your own node?
It is completely ANSi compatible.
I can't quote well.. at least not in this editor but your message looks fine here.
You can still join Fidonet, though it's only a shadow of its former self.
shinobi wrote to Vk3jed <=-
You can still join Fidonet, though it's only a shadow of its former self.
From what I expect is that I'd get more Fun & Experiments in FsxNET.
that's what I'd really like. Would You recommend me any node to join?
I can't quote well.. at least not in this editor but your message
looks fine here.
I'm sorry about that. I was just trying to send some ASCI to message base. I doubt it was a good idea.
that's what I'd really like. Would You recommend me any node to join?
Where are you? I'll look in the nodelist and see if I can find anet Al> close to you and who to contact.
No, it is a good idea to share your ascii/ansi art as you please.Thanks for the encouragement.
that could be a problem. I'm from Prague, Czech Republic. That once was quite a busy Area. I'm afraid there are no nodes left in my country. :-(
I was having a conversation with a node in Prague who brought up the idea of joining Fidonet and I wasn't sure where to point him. Does anyone
have a link with info and perhaps a Z2 nodelist I can point him to?
No, it is a good idea to share your ascii/ansi art as you please.
Thanks for the encouragement. I prefer plain-text. But somehow there are t when it just brings some pleasure to me to "go ANSI crazy".
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Looking through the nodelist I see quite a few BBSs around you (more or less). I saw Aleco Experience BBS, I've seen origin lines from that BBS
so it might be a good place to find info.. That BBS is in Praha and is
run by Martin Ruzicka. The telnet address is bbs.alecoexp.cz.
+1 from me. Feel free to share any ANSI you wish. You're supported here
:)
Well if there are no nodes left we are gonna need one!
The Czech republic is active, it's region-42. Its RC is Viktor Cizek at 2:421/790. INA=fido.m19.cz. He's also the NC.
So far I went to AlecoExp. And yes, there are some 42.* conferences. But it's complete silent in there. I could possibly join the FidoNET. But I'm not really sure if that makes sense. What I somehow expected were some active users. But as I told in 42.* no one is there.
Thanks again for Your help and support. I'll see what Martin Ruzicka will write to me and decide according to his response.
Never the less, I still enjoy BBSing and the networks.. so Icarry on as Al> best I can.Thank
fidonet for my own reasons not because of the BBS (so much). There was a time when we had net 153 echoes that were busier than any echo today but those days are gone.
if you want to try something new let me know ...
looking for some art work, simple stuff I am sure , but I am good at VERY BASIC stuff lol
and lookingforward to seeing your work
Hello Richard,
if you want to try something new let me know ...
looking for some art work, simple stuff I am sure , but I am good at BASIC stuff lol
and lookingforward to seeing your work
I'm so much sorry. But my english sucks. Is it a request for work from
me or offer for work from You.
Sorry again. I didn't get it.
Thanks & best regards
Shinobi
no problem , I am looking for some work to be done
Hey Al, do you remember before net 153 we were net 353 in the Okanagan? THat's how far back I go :)
I lived in Vancouver when I first joined fidonet so I was always
1:153/757 but I remember net 353. There was a group of nodes in that net that were heavy duty gamers. I had a connection with one of those nodes for reasons I forget now.. probably games!
On 02/25/18, Al said the following...
I lived in Vancouver when I first joined fidonet so I was always 1:153/757 but I remember net 353. There was a group of nodes in that that were heavy duty gamers. I had a connection with one of those nod for reasons I forget now.. probably games!
Maybe Bob Shiells at Pyroto Mountain - loved that game.
I am working to get it back up and running ... (pyroto Mountain)
its living on cmrk.net :1986 right now off line but I hope to have it
back up and running this week ( moved computers)
that could be a problem. I'm from Prague, Czech Republic. That once was quite a busy Area. I'm afraid there are no nodes left in my country. :-(
Hey Al it would be I good idea to post a note telling all of us out here how you set mystic up. Ever time ive tried I have failed. so write it up for us Please. Thanks Sam
Re: Re: DoveNET
Hey Avon.. is there a wiki page for Dove-NET and/or QWK networking?
Hey Al it would be I good idea to post a note telling all of us out h how you set mystic up. Ever time ive tried I have failed. so write it for us Please. Thanks Sam
I will put a text file together and post it for those who are interetsed to look over. I have seen a file like that in my travels, written by
Black Pather if I remember right so he might have some input as well.
Hey Avon.. is there a wiki page for Dove-NET and/or QWK networking?
Yes Al to your question about running Dove-net now but on wildcat 6.4 but i have changed over to mystic. I have the file and have been working hard to learn mystic. I had a export problem with mystic for a quite a while but finely cured that problem. Thanks for the info
thanks for the hint. That's where my next steps are heading. Finally I
can contact him and see.
Hey Avon.. is there a wiki page for Dove-NET and/or QWK networking?
Mmm.. not sure, I was thinking it would be good to post the text created to the fsxNet wiki and would be happy to do this and/or give you access
to do so if you wish :)
I did write something up about a year ago. It's not a very good text, as
I finished writing it at like 3am. :) Perhaps I should try to update
it...
Did you find any success with this?
I don't mind helping if needed.
after that discussion I found myself unsure regarding the need to join full node in FidoNET. That NET is possible just a shadow of what it has been. And after brief exploration I can pull that from Vertrauren just as easy as I'm pulling DoveNET. It would be enough just to switch on several switches.
BTW: I find FsxNET quite comforting at the moment. And just reading FsxNET is the amount of messages for me for a day to catch up at least a bit.
I did write something up about a year ago. It's not a very good text, I finished writing it at like 3am. :) Perhaps I should try to update it...
Hmm.. what time is it now.. :)
I'm going to post my thought on the matter in a few days.. maybe this weekend. If you find anything in there you can use it if you like, and maybe between you and Avon you can add it to the wiki. That would be helpful to future sysops I'm sure.
Al wrote to shinobi <=-
after that discussion I found myself unsure regarding the need to join full node in FidoNET. That NET is possible just a shadow of what it has been. And after brief exploration I can pull that from Vertrauren just as easy as I'm pulling DoveNET. It would be enough just to switch on several switches.
I think a QWK link will work just as well, might even be simpler. :)
I think a QWK link will work just as well, might even be simpler. :)
For Fidonet? Most Fido echoes don't allow gating to non Fidonet networks.
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
We are not actually gating. They are all fido messages staying in fido. Just the transfer is QWK rather than FTN. A lot of nodes did fido over
QWK in the early days.
I think a QWK link will work just as well, might even be simpler. :)
Fidonet is attached to my hip after all these years but there are many ways to participate and a full node is not needed. It's there for you if you want/need it any time.
Some days I have to skim by everything quickly. They expect me at work
at 3:00 PM but I took the day off today because I have a head cold or something so I can spend some time.. :)
fsxNet is a great net to be sure. I'm glad I found my way here. I'm
going to upload the fsxnet.zip to Vertrauen on my next trip over there.. :)
We are not actually gating. They are all fido messages staying in
fido. Just the transfer is QWK rather than FTN. A lot of nodes did
fido over QWK in the early days.
Given that QWK doesn't support Fido addressing, technically it is gating, but the rules in various echoes do specify "without permission". :)
If anyone on shinibi's BBS posts those messages will appear to come from 1:103/705 and will have vert's origin line after shinobis.
It's a little mucky perhaps.. but it works and no rules have been
broken. :)
Originally all I wanted before I dive into BBSing recently was a point on Fido. What I got is FTN node with BBS on FsxNET. This is how things goes. :-)
shinobi wrote to Al <=-
Originally all I wanted before I dive into BBSing recently was a point
on Fido. What I got is FTN node with BBS on FsxNET. This is how things goes. :-)
Al wrote to shinobi <=-
One advantage to using a node or point is netmail. If you can live
without netmail QWK will be fine.
One advantage to using a node or point is netmail. If you can live
without netmail QWK will be fine.
Synchronet can do QWK netmail. :)
Synchronet does QWK netmail, (user@qwkid) but an FTN netmail would
likely have to be picked up by the user. shinobi would pick up any
netmail addressed to shinobi@1:103/705 from his own login but I'm not
sure his bbsid network login would pick it up.
Synchronet has extended qwk quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me to
learn that it does work but I haven't ever tried it.
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Synchronet can do QWK netmail. :)
Synchronet does QWK netmail, (user@qwkid) but an FTN netmail would
likely have to be picked up by the user. shinobi would pick up any
netmail addressed to shinobi@1:103/705 from his own login but I'm not
sure his bbsid network login would pick it up.
Synchronet has extended qwk quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me to
learn that it does work but I haven't ever tried it.
No it was error on my part i had spelling and a .error which should have been a | a simple mistake but after looking for days things seem to run wild in your brain trying to find the problem. As someone said to error is to be human,
Synchronet has extended qwk quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me to
learn that it does work but I haven't ever tried it.
That would be a nice feature.
Yes. And all of those extensions are documented, so others can implemented them.
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: FidoNET
By: Vk3jed to Al on Fri Mar 09 2018 06:04 pm
Yes. And all of those extensions are documented, so others can implemented them.
I hope he documented them. I think a lot of it may not be, like the new voting system. I haven't looked at that doc in a while so I'll have to
go see if I can take it in.
I hope he documented them. I think a lot of it may not be, like the
new voting system. I haven't looked at that doc in a while so I'll
have to go see if I can take it in.
I have seen the docs for the Synchronet extensions to QWK. They are on the Synchronet website.
I just had a quick look in my docs directory and saw syncqnet.txt, dated 03/23/95! I'll see what I can find on the web.
It talks about routing QWK netmail but nothing about FTN netmail. I think FTN netmail is handled by sbbsecho, so the QWK system is not going to know anything about it.
http://synchro.net/docs/message_section.html#RemoteQWKFunctions
... See "Sending Netmail via QWK" (and yes, that FidoNet Netmail). :-)
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I just had a quick look in my docs directory and saw syncqnet.txt,
dated 03/23/95! I'll see what I can find on the web.
It talks about routing QWK netmail but nothing about FTN netmail. I
think FTN netmail is handled by sbbsecho, so the QWK system is not
going to know anything about it.
Check your QWK, I'm gouing to send you a QWK netmail reply.
It talks about routing QWK netmail but nothing about FTN netmail. I
think FTN netmail is handled by sbbsecho, so the QWK system is not
going to know anything about it.
Yeah, that's a good point. The boundary between the two technologies might be a major issue. :(
Check your QWK, I'm gouing to send you a QWK netmail reply.
Cool vk3jed@freeway should do it. :)
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, that's a good point. The boundary between the two technologies might be a major issue. :(
I know it will work (QWK or FTN) for a regular user login, but I'm not sure in the the case of a network node. I've never used a QWK network account for any FTN network stuff, like Fidonet.
Check your QWK, I'm gouing to send you a QWK netmail reply.
Cool vk3jed@freeway should do it. :)
I guessed your QWK account was FREEWAY. It is on it's way.
I guessed your QWK account was FREEWAY. It is on it's way.
Yep, got it, replied. :-)
Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: FidoNET
By: Vk3jed to Al on Sat Mar 10 2018 06:20 am
I guessed your QWK account was FREEWAY. It is on it's way.
Yep, got it, replied. :-)
I don't see any reply yet, but will check when I get home tonight.
I don't see any reply yet, but will check when I get home tonight.
Hmm, OK. I'll try from the BBS instead of a QWK packet. :) I noticed the reply address had the full path, a bit like UUCP bang path addressing. :)
There is a rather lengthy doc in my docs directory about Synchronets QWK abilities. I'll have to give it a look and see if it talks about that.
cr1mson wrote to Al <=-
On 03/09/18, Al said the following...
There is a rather lengthy doc in my docs directory about Synchronets QWK abilities. I'll have to give it a look and see if it talks about that.
Keep us informed.
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