Hi

I just ported Gryphon's Inter BBS oneliner to LUA for magicka, well not
really ported I guess it looks a bit different, but it works with the
echomail.

I added the needed functions for lua scripting to access message bases, hopefully this might be useful in the future.

If you want to test it it's menu item '2' on the Main Menu on my BBS.
It's not as pretty as Gryphon's mystic version, but it seems to work.

Tiny (or anyone else) if you want a copy of the lua file sing out, and
I'll email it. You need the very latest v0.9-alpha for it to work though.

Andrew


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On Jan 29th 7:55 am apam said...

I just ported Gryphon's Inter BBS oneliner to LUA for magicka, well not really ported I guess it looks a bit different, but it works with the echomail.

I like the idea of an interBBS oneliner, but using echomail for it feels pretty
naff, IMO. Might as well just write an echomail instead ;-)

I like the thought of a listening web service, I just haven't worked out in my head how to decentralise it without creating loads of extra pointless infratructure...

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Quoting apam to ALL <=-

Tiny (or anyone else) if you want a copy of the lua file sing out, and I'll email it. You need the very latest v0.9-alpha for it to work
though.

Singing "Oh Canada!" because I don't know the words to anything else.

Shawn

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RiPuk said....

On Jan 29th 7:55 am apam said...

I just ported Gryphon's Inter BBS oneliner to LUA for magicka, well

not

really ported I guess it looks a bit different, but it works with

the

echomail.

I like the idea of an interBBS oneliner, but using echomail for it feels

prett

y
naff, IMO. Might as well just write an echomail instead ;-)

Yeah this is true. Plus scraping 4k message headers to get 30 or so
oneliner messages doesnt seem like the most efficient method. However it was more a
test of the message base access via lua functions. I'm more interested in
the passing data like in double up.

Andrew

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Tiny said....

Quoting apam to ALL <=-

Tiny (or anyone else) if you want a copy of the lua file sing out,

and

I'll email it. You need the very latest v0.9-alpha for it to work though.

Singing "Oh Canada!" because I don't know the words to anything else.

okie dokie will email it in the morning.

Andrew

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okie dokie will email it in the morning.

Sounds good! Thanks man.

Shawn

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On 01/29/18, RiPuk said the following...

On Jan 29th 7:55 am apam said...

I just ported Gryphon's Inter BBS oneliner to LUA for magicka, well n really ported I guess it looks a bit different, but it works with the echomail.

I like the idea of an interBBS oneliner, but using echomail for it feels pretty naff, IMO. Might as well just write an echomail instead ;-)

I am somewhat in ageeance with you on this. TBH, I wrote IBOL more as a
proof of concept app to utilize the message bases to exchange data, like Synchronets' BBS List and matchmaker apps.

I like the thought of a listening web service, I just haven't worked out in my head how to decentralise it without creating loads of extra pointless infratructure...

This has been done before and it worked well. Mike Linhares had a working service but it went away when he did. Nobody else has stepped up to take the reins and recreated it. So if somebody wanted to do it, it's there for the taking.

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This has been done before and it worked well. Mike Linhares had a
working service but it went away when he did. Nobody else has stepped up to take the reins and recreated it. So if somebody wanted to do it, it's there for the taking.

If someone could also re create the api that would be handy as there
were a lot of third party ones for that as well. Hell even I wrote one.
:)

Shawn


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On Monday, January 29th RiPuk muttered...

I like the thought of a listening web service, I just haven't worked out in my head how to decentralise it without creating loads of extra pointless infratructure...

At one point I was going to write a Google App engine thinger for this - I think we could get away with the free tier IIRC... but I got lazy :)



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On 01/29/18, Gryphon pondered and said...

On 01/29/18, RiPuk said the following...

I like the idea of an interBBS oneliner, but using echomail for it fe pretty naff, IMO. Might as well just write an echomail instead ;-)

I am somewhat in ageeance with you on this. TBH, I wrote IBOL more as a proof of concept app to utilize the message bases to exchange data, like Synchronets' BBS List and matchmaker apps.

[snip]

I like the thought of a listening web service, I just haven't worked in my head how to decentralise it without creating loads of extra pointless infratructure...

This has been done before and it worked well. Mike Linhares had a
working service but it went away when he did. Nobody else has stepped
up to take the reins and recreated it. So if somebody wanted to do it, it's there for the taking.

So at this stage we have Apam, Al, Black Panther, Gryphon, Vk3jed supporting the creation of FSX_DAT for two (well three now Apam has had a crack at things too :)) known applications. And RiPuk questioning the need to do so which is fair enough.

Then there's this thread where another idea is being mooted also. So could
the use of such an echo be a short lived thing anyways? Could developers
create something fsxNet could HUB in a different guise? I'm happy to support any ideas that come to fruition as that's part of the ethos of this network - keeping it experimental :) So for anyone considering building something
further do keep that in mind / drop me a netmail if you want to discuss more 1-1 etc.

I'm happy to set up FSX_DAT if it's going to be used. My worry is that it may fly then die quickly as interest wanes. I may well be wrong, happy to be. I also do agree separating out data from text is a good thing. I guess looking
at the examples some data is human readable whilst another is not. So at present it seems like a mixed bag.

You know what I am over thinking it now, as I can usually do! :)

Shall we set it up for now so it gives everyone a chance to point their data traffic at it, and just monitor over the coming months to see if it remains a viable echo for the purposes it was first established?

I will look to establish something in the next 24-48 hours but would
encourage everyone to keep discussing etc. should further ideas emerge that
we can tease up / develop further in the future.

Thanks guys!

I will also post this reply to FSX_GEN and FSX_BBS

Best, Paul


`I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid, and I'm not going' - Kerr Avon, Blake's 7

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On 01/30/18, Avon said the following...

ethos of this network - keeping it experimental :) So for anyone considering building something further do keep that in mind / drop me a netmail if you want to discuss more 1-1 etc.

I would like to develop something similar to what Gryphon has done for the
80s music trivia as well. If I could finish a couple projects I've been
working on...


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The sparrows are flying again....

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I think it's a great idea. Let's set one up and see how it goes. I think it would keep things cleaner in the bot area. With all the developers here, I'm sure there's other options. But who wants to write another piece of software for a server/service to load while running Mystic?

I commend Gryphon for even starting such a trend again. I think it's a great interactive addition to the wide group of systems here. Let's see what comes out of it.

Thoughts?

I am somewhat in ageeance with you on this. TBH, I wrote IBOL more a proof of concept app to utilize the message bases to exchange data, l Synchronets' BBS List and matchmaker apps.

So at this stage we have Apam, Al, Black Panther, Gryphon, Vk3jed supporting the creation of FSX_DAT for two (well three now Apam has had
a crack at things too :)) known applications. And RiPuk questioning the need to do so which is fair enough.

Then there's this thread where another idea is being mooted also. So
could the use of such an echo be a short lived thing anyways? Could developers create something fsxNet could HUB in a different guise? I'm happy to support any ideas that come to fruition as that's part of the ethos of this network - keeping it experimental :) So for anyone considering building something further do keep that in mind / drop me a netmail if you want to discuss more 1-1 etc.

I'm happy to set up FSX_DAT if it's going to be used. My worry is that
it may fly then die quickly as interest wanes. I may well be wrong,
happy to be. I also do agree separating out data from text is a good thing. I guess looking at the examples some data is human readable
whilst another is not. So at present it seems like a mixed bag.

You know what I am over thinking it now, as I can usually do! :)

Shall we set it up for now so it gives everyone a chance to point their data traffic at it, and just monitor over the coming months to see if it remains a viable echo for the purposes it was first established?

I will look to establish something in the next 24-48 hours but would encourage everyone to keep discussing etc. should further ideas emerge that we can tease up / develop further in the future.

Thanks guys!

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On Jan 29th 11:58 pm NuSkooler said...

I like the thought of a listening web service, I just haven't
worked out in my head how to decentralise it without creating loads of extra pointless infratructure...

At one point I was going to write a Google App engine thinger for this - I think we could get away with the free tier IIRC... but I got lazy :)

Great minds, was thinkimg something similar. I also get loads of free Azure credits a month with no use for them!

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On Jan 29th 10:00 pm Tiny said...

This has been done before and it worked well. Mike Linhares had a
working service but it went away when he did. Nobody else has stepped

up G> to take the reins and recreated it. So if somebody wanted to do it, it's G> there for the taking.

If you could point me in the direction of something I can take a look...

Cheers
Dave


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