Good afternoon,
Has anyone had any luck, or have any tips, for getting FDSZ working with a
DOS program over telnet? Specifically, I am trying to use it with a DOS
BBS package.

Back when I ran under VMODEM and OS/2, DSZ worked fine. It does not work
so well over telnet under dosemu so I am wanting to try something else.
Sinze the BBS interfaces fine with the dosemu vitual port, I am not calling
a fossil driver in the bbs batch file. I assumed that dosemu's virtual
port must be like a fossilized port... is that assumption incorrect? :)

Thanks!

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On 01/20/18, Dumas Walker said the following...

Good afternoon,
Has anyone had any luck, or have any tips, for getting FDSZ working with
a DOS program over telnet? Specifically, I am trying to use it with a
DOS BBS package.

Back when I ran under VMODEM and OS/2, DSZ worked fine. It does not work so well over telnet under dosemu so I am wanting to try something else. Sinze the BBS interfaces fine with the dosemu vitual port, I am not calling a fossil driver in the bbs batch file. I assumed that dosemu's virtual port must be like a fossilized port... is that assumption incorrect? :)

Thanks!

have you tried netserial ? I am running a Pyroto Mountain BBS with it ..

it make a telnet session into a modem for the program

you can try at cmrk.net:1986 or cmrk.net/pyroto to see it working

I hope this helps

Richard Szajkowski AKA The Wizzard

U.S.S. Alliance BBS (Brampton) (Born 1984 Reborn 2017)

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Good afternoon, Has anyone had any luck, or have any tips, for getting FDSZ working with a DOS program over telnet? Specifically, I am trying
to use it with a DOS BBS package.

My guess is it's not escaping IAC codes. VModem does I believe, but
dosemu does not.

So, what's between the dosemu and telnet?

You could try connecting in raw mode (syncterm has a raw mode I think)
and see if that works.

Andrew


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My guess is it's not escaping IAC codes. VModem does I believe, but
dosemu does not.

So, what's between the dosemu and telnet?

Well, right now I have mystic running with a matrix logon menu (to clobber
hack attempts and bots). I choose the DOS BBS (GT Power) via the matrix.
The matrix calls a bash script which, in turn, fires up dosemu and the
BBS .BAT file.

Since posting, I have added a fossil driver to the ZMTX.BAT that calls
zmodem from the bbs. I still get the same errors... lots of CRC errors,
some others that are not familiar, and eventual failure.

FWIW, I can use the same connection method (through the mystic matrix
logon) to reach my Synchronet system. Using syncterm, I am able to zmodem download from there without any issues. SBBS would be using whatever
zmodem implementation comes with the "stock" compile... I have not changed
it at all.

You could try connecting in raw mode (syncterm has a raw mode I think)
and see if that works.

What does raw mode do exactly?

Thanks!

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have you tried netserial ? I am running a Pyroto Mountain BBS with it ..

Does netserial work under linux?

it make a telnet session into a modem for the program

you can try at cmrk.net:1986 or cmrk.net/pyroto to see it working

I hope this helps

Thanks, I will check those links out!

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On 01/21/18, Dumas Walker said the following...

have you tried netserial ? I am running a Pyroto Mountain BBS with it ..

Does netserial work under linux?

it make a telnet session into a modem for the program

you can try at cmrk.net:1986 or cmrk.net/pyroto to see it working

I hope this helps

Thanks, I will check those links out!

good question .. I know it runs under windows , maybe the auther will port to linux , he is a good guy and has helped me figure things out

got a old bbs (software) I used to run working , so you never know ...

Good luck

Richard Szajkowski AKA The Wizzard

U.S.S. Alliance BBS (Brampton) (Born 1984 Reborn 2017)

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What does raw mode do exactly?

It doesn't parse the IAC codes.

I think what's happening is Zmodem is occasionally sending 0xFF which
telnet interprets as a command and intercepts it, so the receiving zmodem
is missing that byte and a couple of bytes after it.

Synchronet etc, will escape the 0xFF and send 0xFF 0xFF which will cause
the telnet client to say oh, it's not a code, they really want to send
0xFF.

I had thought that mystic would have escaped them, but if synchronet
works, it suggests it's not (which is good).

So if raw mode works, I don't know how the mystic part will cope,
probably just fine but you may see some extra funny characters when you
first connect (mystic trying to negotiate telnet commands), but if raw
mode works, then I'd say it's definitly the issue. If it doesn't, then I
think I'm probably wrong.

Andrew


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So if raw mode works, I don't know how the mystic part will cope,
probably just fine but you may see some extra funny characters when you
first connect (mystic trying to negotiate telnet commands), but if raw
mode works, then I'd say it's definitly the issue. If it doesn't, then I think I'm probably wrong.

Thanks for the explanation regarding the 0xFF possibility. I shall have to give raw mode a shot when I get a chance.

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³ So if raw mode works, I don't know how the mystic part will cope,
³ probably just fine but you may see some extra funny characters when you
³ first connect (mystic trying to negotiate telnet commands), but if raw
³ mode works, then I'd say it's definitly the issue. If it doesn't, then I
³ think I'm probably wrong.
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You were apparently correct. Once I changed the command line for the
PDzmodem call, using some hints from Nick Andre, it worked fine... but only
if I connected in RAW mode. Otherwise, I got all sorts of errors in the syncterm transfer window.

Rats! :)

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