• Re: Stop Obama

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    From: "Rustypat" <rustypat@stormfront.org>
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    4 years of Omammy has been damaging enough . we cant afford anymore of his progress. When the goverment spends more Q-E-3 who does the messah think is going to pay for another Trillion Dollars of stimulus . the millions of unemployed workers that have been at/near historic levels for the duration
    of him in the White House, you think the unemployed can pay, you think the negros and mexicans will pay -- no! it will be on the backs of white
    working people just like all democrat regigmes do to buy the votes of their base. GET A CLUE . THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH ! ! ! Bonehead Omammy would have us think that 4 years of 8+% unemployment means that
    things are "stable" . when that is and has been a recipe for a dismal
    economy. What a maroon. I just hope that people are smart enough to realize that he is asking them to waste another trillion and will adopt the concept
    of "Fool me once" and not be duped for another round fraudulent tactics to support his socialistic ideals Imagine . asking America to let him borrow & spend ANOTHER TRILLION dollars . after he's so clearly shown that he dont
    know how to spend FIVE TRILLION to any degree of fruitfulness. If he gets re-elected, it'll be as telling about how stupid American's as you have
    seen the evidence of his failure and incompetance to protect us (Look at the Liberian embassy killings)

    Obama-Nation is an Abomination.
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    From: "Libtards Suck" <libstardsuck@aol.com>
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    "Frank Provasek" <frank@frankcoins.com> wrote in message news:8e310fb0-8e13-451c-907d-37db030abc52@googlegroups.com...
    On Saturday, November 3, 2012 9:57:32 PM UTC-5, R S H wrote:


    A pox on the Republicans if they are going to always obstruct Congress
    and say no to bypartisanship, which is exactly what they did since

    Obama was elected, and which I blame them for totally.


    Fox News the first 100 days after President Obama's inauguration...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eRxxZ-Ar0

    Eat this

    Frank Provasek
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    Phone 817-536-1345

    SSN 464-54-5959

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    From: "Georgette Neff" <georgiapeach@aol.com>
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    I'm much poorer with Obongo. . 30% increase in Health insurance. Increases
    in property taxes. Increases in water, electric, gas, postage, Decrease in federal Income tax deductions, Increased gas prices. Big food price increases. Tires. Everything has gone up. Whooping losses in stock market as well as increased mistrust in the goverment and no confidence of same. But
    no increase in income. I can go on and on but my brain hurts to think about it.
    Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/11/03/4385993/are-north-texans-better-off-tha n.html#disqus_thread#storylink=cpy
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    From: "Georgette Neff" <georgiapeach@aol.com>
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    On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:53:52 -0600, "Georgette Neff"
    <georgiapeach@aol.com> wrote:

    I can go on and on but my brain hurts to think about and I just
    figured out why:

    Undecided voters. They're out there—in our families, at our
    workplaces, and in our extended social networks. And in less than 24
    hours, they could decide who will be president. Right now, they're
    asking themselves, "Who do I really trust?"
    This video makes it very clear: they can't trust Mitt Romney!
    The video's sharing FAST on our Facebook and Twitter feeds, which
    means it's already having an impact. So if MoveOn members share it
    too, we can get it in front of millions of undecided voters as they
    make their final decision.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1E8S1H3y9KE

    Watch the video. The truth was right here all the time. Romney and
    that Pinocchio spammer is lying to us. He accuses everyone else of
    either lying or being someone else. It is he who lies. He tells lies
    he does.

    Romney can't tell you HOW he will do all these wonderous things
    because if he did, no one would vote for him except his kids and his wife....maybe.

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me Cade Larson you phony
    bastard and pay it forward with the next pile of shit you see in your
    frig. You come up with more nyms than a politician in heat.
    Whatsamatter, fraid your name is already up in lights? Kill files
    that is.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
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    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:
    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a
    one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
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    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    I think we all 'ate it' when Obama shoveled his 'stimulus' out the door...
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    From: Kiss <kiss@my.liberal.ass>
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    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:42:55 -0700, Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    I think we all 'ate it' when Obama shoveled his 'stimulus' out the door...

    Did it taste good? I didn't get any. Fact is things are undeniably
    better today than when you voted for Obama the first time.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
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    On 11/5/2012 1:57 PM, Kiss wrote:
    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:42:55 -0700, Cade Larson<cdl@live.nail.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    I think we all 'ate it' when Obama shoveled his 'stimulus' out the door... >>
    Did it taste good?

    Beats me...

    I didn't get any.

    Neither did basic infrastructure projects...less than 4% got any funding
    at all.

    Fact is things are undeniably better today than when you voted for Obama the
    first time.

    Fact is, you're lying.


    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.
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    From: "Pete" <psmith@bellsouth.net>
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    Obama just told his black followers to vote to get revenge on white America! This is unprecadents and virtually a declaration of war by this goverment against the white majority!!!!
    "Kiss" <kiss@my.liberal.ass> wrote in message news:os9g98pe2opq1dv6b643fsaon3mv132mct@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:42:55 -0700, Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    I think we all 'ate it' when Obama shoveled his 'stimulus' out the door...

    Did it taste good? I didn't get any. Fact is things are undeniably
    better today than when you voted for Obama the first time.
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    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    Every incumbent runs on their record, and Obama's is pathetic. Obama has
    been whining about Romney since the debate, because he wants to try to distract voters from the simple fact that he has been an ineffective president, his policies have made the economy worse, and his red ink is bringing the Republic to its knees. Obama's record is indefensable. That is why he failed to defend it during the debate and why he should not be re-elected. In our Southern Virginia county, median family income fell more than 3,000 dollars last year alone; more than 12%! The only place this administration has created jobs is in the fast food industry and goverment workers handing out welfare checks and food stamps. You want fries with
    that, President Buckwheat? Can I buy a lid of mary jane with my food stamps President Doper?
    In Libya terrorists plan and carry out an attack and kill our ambassador. Obama and Hillary announce (they knew differently) that it was because of a movie and THEY APOLOGIZE TO EXTREMISTS FOR OUR IDEALS OF FREE RELIGION AND SPEECH! Now that we all know that it was because of incompetence in Hillary's State Dept., they don't even have the grace to apologize to the families of those killed. Well, thanks for throwing our values under the bus. When you allow terrorists to kill Americans and do nothing it is more than weak and pathetic, it is also treason. How about all the money that Obama has raised? ILLEGAL (untraceable) contributions made with pre-paid credit cards, and estimates from the Goverment Accountability Institute that between 20 and 68
    % of Obama's money is coming from foreign nationals over the internet.
    Hello: That's illegal also!
    THEN he tells defense contractors to break the law by not sending out pink slips to employees that are about to be laid off. He is hoping to keep all this out of the news until after the election. He has put American taxpayers on the hook for the legal costs. Clearly, the only job he cares about is his own. He should be ashamed! His performance has been shameful!
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    1. There no longer is a white majority in the U.S.
    2. My net worth is higher than it was when Obama took office, after it dived while Bush was in office.
    3. My stock holdings are back where they were before Bush drove them way down. 4. As I recall it, Bush started the Stimulus, not Obama, and many of the tax increases and other rises in costs over the past 4 years have
    as much to do with Republican stands taken in the Congress as anything the President might have done. Remember that the President cannot do
    anything legislative. Congress has to pass bills and send them to the President, who then has to approve them before they become law. This
    is called checks and balances. So you cannot blame Obama for anything that is due to the actions of Congress, as much as you might want to.

    As for Begazzi and other foreign embassies and consulates, remember the the Republicans refused to approve a higher appropriation for adding
    addtional defences to them via more security manpower, as they rejected the cost of doing that. So try blaming the Republicans in Congress
    for that one, instead of Obama.

    FWIW
    rsh



    On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:59:50 -0600, "Pete" <psmith@bellsouth.net> wrote:

    Obama just told his black followers to vote to get revenge on white America! >This is unprecadents and virtually a declaration of war by this goverment >against the white majority!!!!
    "Kiss" <kiss@my.liberal.ass> wrote in message >news:os9g98pe2opq1dv6b643fsaon3mv132mct@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:42:55 -0700, Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    wrote:

    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Georgette (with the peach colored pussy) Eat me


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    I think we all 'ate it' when Obama shoveled his 'stimulus' out the door... >>>
    Did it taste good? I didn't get any. Fact is things are undeniably
    better today than when you voted for Obama the first time.
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    On Nov 5, 3:37 pm, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    Since we do republicans care what someone says, you will vote for a
    liar anyways.
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    On 11/5/2012 8:30 PM, R S H wrote:
    1. There no longer is a white majority in the U.S.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

    The U.S. population's distribution by race and ethnicity in 2010 was as follows

    Americans 308,745,538 100.0 %
    White or European American 223,553,265 72.4 %
    Black or African American 38,929,319 12.6 %
    Asian 14,674,252 4.8 %
    American Indian or Alaska Native 2,932,248 0.9 %
    Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 540,013 0.2 %
    Some other race 19,107,368 6.2 %
    Two or more races 9,009,073 2.9 %

    2. My net worth is higher than it was when Obama took office, after it dived
    while Bush was in office.

    http://online.wsj.com/

    Negative $4,019
    The Obama years have been brutal on middle-class incomes.

    3. My stock holdings are back where they were before Bush drove them way
    down.

    Rich folk like you are lucky to hold any stocks.

    4. As I recall it, Bush started the Stimulus, not Obama, and

    Obama blew it, all 830 BILLION$$$ worth, with only 4% of it going to "shovel-ready" projects.

    http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/STIMULUS_FINAL_0217.html


    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a
    one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4-vPrcDBo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75KJkJiVRo&feature=related

    Despite the rise of ATM's for banking in the 1980's. President Barack
    Obama says they are partly to blame for current unemployment.

    many of the tax increases and other rises in costs over the past 4 years
    have
    as much to do with Republican stands taken in the Congress as anything the
    President might have done. Remember that the President cannot do
    anything legislative.

    Nope:

    http://online.wsj.com/

    Even if Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan win on November 6, his agenda will be stymied if Republicans can't pick up at least three more seats than
    their current 47 and control the Senate. That's clear from the last two
    years, when Harry Reid's not-so-deliberative body became the graveyard
    for fiscal and other reform.

    House Republicans won an historic midterm election in 2010, picking up
    63 seats. They also gained six Senate seats, but a handful of weak GOP candidates (Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O'Donnell) cost them
    control of the upper body. Back in charge in 2011, Mr. Reid proceeded to
    stop nearly everything that House Republicans passed. President Obama
    hasn't even had to sweat a veto fight because nothing escapes Mr. Reid's
    lost world.


    Consider the record. In 2011 and 2012 the House passed more than
    three-dozen economic or jobs-related bills and with only a few
    exceptions they died in the Senate without a vote. The bills dealt with regulatory relief, tax reduction, domestic drilling for energy, offshore drilling, a jobs bill for veterans, repeal of ObamaCare and many more.
    Many passed the House with significant Democratic support, as the nearby
    list shows.

    Then there is the Democratic failure on their constitutional obligation
    of passing a budget. House Republicans passed their budgets in each of
    the past two years in the spring. The latest one, crafted by Vice
    Presidential nominee Paul Ryan, contained $4.5 trillion in deficit reduction—at least twice as much as Mr. Obama's budget proposal.

    By contrast, the Senate failed to pass any budget in 2012. Or 2011. Or
    2010. The Senate hasn't passed a budget in more than 1,200 days. Sorry,
    Harry, you can't blame that on a Republican filibuster, because it takes
    only 51 votes to pass a Senate budget resolution. In 2011 and 2012 the
    Senate Budget Committee never even drafted a budget, thus inspiring a
    House bill to dock the pay of Senate Budget Committee Members for not
    doing their job.

    Mr. Reid even declared in 2011 that it would be "foolish for us to do a budget," no doubt because he thought that would allow voters to see that
    what Democrats really want is even more spending and higher taxes. This
    would have made life difficult for vulnerable Democratic incumbents who
    pass themselves off as moderates in election years, such as
    Pennsylvania's Bob Casey, Montana's Jon Tester and Florida's Bill Nelson.

    So Democrats simply sat back and took shots at the Ryan budget.
    Meanwhile, these same incumbents are now campaigning at home as
    champions of domestic energy, lower taxes, spending restraint and
    regulatory relief—everything the Democratic Senate helped to kill.

    Enlarge Image





    Congress has to pass bills and send them to the President, who then has to
    approve them before they become law. This
    is called checks and balances. So you cannot blame Obama for anything that
    is
    due to the actions of Congress, as much as you might want to.

    The Senate also failed in 2010 and 2012 to pass a single appropriations
    bill. According to an analysis by Senate Republicans, that hadn't
    happened before in the 150-year history of the current spending process.
    This year the Senate even failed to enact a national defense
    authorization bill, which almost never happens.

    The House passed a bill to avert the tax cliff looming in January, but
    the Senate failed to act on that too. Last week Mr. Reid's chief Senate lieutenant, Chuck Schumer of New York, warned that Democrats will stop
    any attempt at bipartisan tax reform next year, calling the idea
    "obsolete." He's essentially promising pre-emptive gridlock in 2013 no
    matter who wins.

    Voters can be forgiven for not knowing all this because the media mostly ignore Senate obstructionism these days. Instead, they dutifully follow
    Mr. Obama's lead when he says of Congress that "I think the American
    people will run them out of town because they are frustrated and they
    know we need to do something big and bold." He means Republicans.

    As for Begazzi and other foreign embassies and consulates, remember the the
    Republicans refused

    The Libyan embassy was attacked twice before and ALL its requests for additional security were denied by OBAMA!

    The Dem lying is going to stop after tomorrow - and YOU will slink away
    like the paid DNC shill that we know you to be.
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    On 11/5/2012 8:52 PM, sgt23 wrote:
    On Nov 5, 3:37 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a
    one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    Since we do republicans care what someone says,


    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.
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    On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:04:24 -0600, <fredw@appalachian.net> wrote:

    Every incumbent runs on their record, and Obama's is pathetic. Obama has >been whining about Romney..
    and you have been whining about Obama since he was elected. For all
    you efforts, you better pray to whatever god you think listens to you
    because if Obama wins, that says miles about you, your lies and your
    candidate. Give it up. You lost even if Obama loses.

    You people chose getting rid of Obama over the Republic. You are a
    disgrace to America.
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    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:30:56 -0500, R S H <rsh_rsh@rogers.com> wrote:

    1. There no longer is a white majority in the U.S.
    2. My net worth is higher than it was when Obama took office, after it dived while Bush was in office.
    3. My stock holdings are back where they were before Bush drove them way down.
    4. As I recall it, Bush started the Stimulus, not Obama, and many of the tax increases and other rises in costs over the past 4 years have
    as much to do with Republican stands taken in the Congress as anything the President might have done. Remember that the President cannot do
    anything legislative. Congress has to pass bills and send them to the President, who then has to approve them before they become law. This
    is called checks and balances. So you cannot blame Obama for anything that is due to the actions of Congress, as much as you might want to.

    As for Begazzi and other foreign embassies and consulates, remember the the Republicans refused to approve a higher appropriation for adding
    addtional defences to them via more security manpower, as they rejected the cost of doing that. So try blaming the Republicans in Congress
    for that one, instead of Obama.

    FWIW
    rsh

    Thank you. Clearly details my situation.
    Are things better than when Obama took office? Of course they are.

    No world leader has ever accomplished every detail in their agenda.
    That is impossible. Obama has done very well especially when the
    republicans have been standing on his shirtails since he took office.
    To the rogue republicans, making him a one-term president was more
    important than the nation. They should all be ashamed of themselves.
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    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:


    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.


    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.
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    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:33:53 -0800 (PST), Frank Provasek
    <frank@frankcoins.com> wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:


    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.


    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    1. You found this on a right-wing site as a madeup story.
    2. You made this up yourself
    3. You reverting back to Bush's term in office. All you know how to
    do is blame presidents particular for things they have no control
    over.
    4. I don't believe anyone who prefers to cut and paste and change
    their ID as often as you do as well as spam newsgroups with multiple
    copies of the same miss-informatoin. Excuse me but you are full of
    shit.
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    On 11/5/2012 10:17 PM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:04:24 -0600,<fredw@appalachian.net> wrote:

    Every incumbent runs on their record, and Obama's is pathetic. Obama has
    been whining about Romney..
    and you have been whining about Obama since he was elected.

    Because he was never SUITABLE to be elected.


    For all
    you efforts, you better pray to whatever god you think listens to you
    because if Obama wins, that says miles about you, your lies and your candidate. Give it up. You lost even if Obama loses.

    We LOST because he was elected:

    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.


    You people chose getting rid of Obama over the Republic.

    Huh?

    Put down the bottle, sober up, you enemy of America.

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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
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    On 11/5/2012 10:28 PM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    Are things better than when Obama took office? Of course they are.

    BULLSHIT LIE!!!!




    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    http://online.wsj.com/

    Whether or not Americans choose to believe him, there's no denying the
    fiscal reality created by the rollout version of President Obama last
    year, as detailed in the Congressional Budget Office report released yesterday. For the second year in a row, fiscal 2010 will see a trillion-dollar deficit—an estimated $1.35 trillion, or 9.2% of GDP,
    which is down slightly from last year's post-World War II record of 9.9%.

    The slow pace of economic recovery has contributed to a collapse in
    revenues, down to 14.8% of GDP in 2009 and an estimated 14.9% this year. That's well below the modern historical average of about 18.1%, and it
    is a reminder that economic growth is the most important contributor to smaller deficits. Had last year's "stimulus" worked half as well as the
    White House advertised, these deficits wouldn't be as large.

    But as the nearby chart shows, Mr. Obama's major contribution to
    deficits has been a record spending spree. In 2007, before the
    recession, federal expenditures reached $2.73 trillion. By 2009
    expenditures had climbed to $3.52 trillion. In 2009 alone, overall
    federal spending rose 18%, or $536 billion. Throw in a $65 billion
    reduction in debt service costs due to low interest rates, and the
    overall spending increase was 22%.

    In one year.

    CBO confirms that Democrats have taken federal spending to a new and
    higher plateau: 24.7% of GDP in 2009, 24.1% this year, and back to an estimated 24.3% in 2011. The modern historical average is about 20.5%,
    and less than that if you exclude the Reagan defense buildup of the
    1980s that helped to win the Cold War and let Bill Clinton reduce
    defense spending to 3% of GDP in the 1990s.

    This means that one of every four dollars produced by the sweat of
    American private labor is now taxed and redistributed by 535 men and
    women in Congress.

    http://lauraingraham.com/b/America-under-ObamaCare,-Day-239:-Hospital-job-losse s-increase/-413285077856810758.html


    According to one hospital, layoffs of workers have already begun as a
    result of the new law. Leaders of Memorial Hospital in South Bend,
    Indiana, said that although "the economy sparked this problem...the
    Obama Health Care Reform Act gave the hospital a one-two punch. While
    more people may soon get more health coverage, Obama's plan cuts
    reimbursement dollars for hospitals at a time administrators say they
    could use them most."

    Obamacare includes $575 billion in cuts to Medicare to pay for a
    Medicaid expansion and a new entitlement program, which will provide
    generous subsidies for middle-class Americans to buy insurance. The cuts include slashes to hospitals' reimbursement rates.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
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    On 11/6/2012 7:33 AM, Frank Provasek wrote:
    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:


    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.


    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    The "stimulus" FAILED, less than 4% went to shovel-ready projects, LESS
    THAN FOUR PERCENT!!!!!


    Now we have an open-ended 40 BILLION$$ a month from the Fed to infinity
    and beyond!!!

    IT FAILED!!!

    You taxaholic Dems are spending us into a full on national BANKRUPTCY!
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    On 11/6/2012 7:51 AM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    4. I don't believe anyone who prefers to cut and paste and change
    their ID as often as you do as well as spam newsgroups with

    So you reject yourself then, yes?

    Is that your final answer, paid DNC troll and legendary nym-shifter?
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    From: Choomy <Choomy@bucky.com>
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    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On 11/6/2012 7:51 AM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:33:53 -0800 (PST), Frank Provasek <frank@frankcoins.com> wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:


    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.


    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    1. You found this on a right-wing site as a madeup story.
    2. You made this up yourself
    3. You reverting back to Bush's term in office. All you know how to
    do is blame presidents particular for things they have no control
    over.
    4. I don't believe anyone who prefers to cut and paste and change
    their ID as often as you do as well as spam newsgroups with multiple
    copies of the same miss-informatoin. Excuse me but you are full of
    shit.

    You suffer from a desire to be abused by blacks. You want to kiss
    Obama's ring because of imagined White guilt. Either that or you are
    trying to impress you son-in-law that you like blacks.
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    From: Choomy <Choomy@bucky.com>
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    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On 11/5/2012 10:28 PM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:30:56 -0500, R S H <rsh_rsh@rogers.com> wrote:

    1. There no longer is a white majority in the U.S.
    2. My net worth is higher than it was when Obama took office, after it dived
    while Bush was in office.
    3. My stock holdings are back where they were before Bush drove them way down.
    4. As I recall it, Bush started the Stimulus, not Obama, and many of the tax
    increases and other rises in costs over the past 4 years have
    as much to do with Republican stands taken in the Congress as anything the President might have done. Remember that the President cannot do
    anything legislative. Congress has to pass bills and send them to the President, who then has to approve them before they become law. This
    is called checks and balances. So you cannot blame Obama for anything that is due to the actions of Congress, as much as you might want to.

    As for Begazzi and other foreign embassies and consulates, remember the the Republicans refused to approve a higher appropriation for adding
    addtional defences to them via more security manpower, as they rejected the cost of doing that. So try blaming the Republicans in Congress
    for that one, instead of Obama.

    FWIW
    rsh

    Thank you. Clearly details my situation.
    Are things better than when Obama took office? Of course they are.

    Well, Yes, for him and Michelle, and the people who got "free" taxpayer
    paid cellphones.

    No world leader has ever accomplished every detail in their agenda.
    That is impossible. Obama has done very well especially when the
    republicans have been standing on his shirtails since he took office.

    He had a Democrat Congress his first two years and all he could do was
    ruin our healthcare system.

    To the rogue republicans, making him a one-term president was more
    important than the nation. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

    We are out of shame since Obama shamed America in front of the world.
    Well, when he isn't elected, you won't get paid to post anymore and your
    GS-7 job is out the door.

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    From: Choomy <Choomy@bucky.com>
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    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On 11/5/2012 10:17 PM, TheWatcher@here.now wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:04:24 -0600, <fredw@appalachian.net> wrote:

    Every incumbent runs on their record, and Obama's is pathetic. Obama has
    been whining about Romney..
    and you have been whining about Obama since he was elected. For all
    you efforts, you better pray to whatever god you think listens to you
    because if Obama wins, that says miles about you, your lies and your candidate. Give it up. You lost even if Obama loses.

    You people chose getting rid of Obama over the Republic. You are a
    disgrace to America.

    We are saving America from Communism, Islam and the most incompetent, unqualified usurper President in the history of America.
    What an asshole.
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    On Nov 5, 11:03 pm, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 8:52 PM, sgt23 wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:37 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com>  wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a
    one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    Since we do republicans care what someone says,

    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    You are citing on OPINION PIECE in the Fox News-owned Wall Street
    Journal, picked up by the Romnet campaign.

    Politifact deems it a half truth:

    Romney’s ad says that "under Obama families have lost over $4,000 a
    year in income."

    That figure comes from a new but well-respected index created by
    Sentier Research, which tracked a decline in the median family income
    from the month Obama took office through June 2012. It’s tricky to
    compare that data with census data because they represent different
    time periods. But where it is possible to compare Sentier with the
    census, the results are within a few dollars of each other.

    But the ad’s claim runs into trouble by overtly blaming Obama. The
    economy was on a downward track before he took office, and a president
    has limited control over those forces. To the extent he should be held responsible, Mitchell told us, the slow recovery has all been on his
    watch.

    Romney’s ad cites trustworthy figures but oversimplifies the issue by
    assigning blame to Obama. We rate it Half True.
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    On Nov 6, 10:19 am, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/6/2012 7:33 AM, Frank Provasek wrote:









    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com>  wrote:

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States.  That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child.  To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    The "stimulus" FAILED, less than 4% went to shovel-ready projects, LESS
    THAN FOUR PERCENT!!!!!

    Now we have an open-ended 40 BILLION$$ a month from the Fed to infinity
    and beyond!!!

    IT FAILED!!!

    You taxaholic Dems are spending us into a full on national BANKRUPTCY!

    Taxaholic?

    In February, 2009, Obama signed the American Recovery and Investment
    Act, which included $288 billion in tax cuts, arguably the largest tax
    cuts in American history. These cuts included a payroll tax credit of
    $400 per worker and $800 per married couple in 2009 and 2010, and an
    extension of revisions in the Alternative Minimum Tax, which saved
    middle-class Americans $70 billion. Additionally, the legislation
    included over $30 billion in tax cuts for American businesses.

    http://www.republicansforobama.org/firstterm
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    On Nov 6, 12:36 pm, Choomy <Cho...@bucky.com> wrote:


    Well, Yes, for him and Michelle, and the people who got "free" taxpayer
    paid cellphones.

    There are no free cell phones paid for by taxpayers. The phones are
    given free to
    low income people by the cell phone companies, and the minutes are
    provided
    by the Univeral Service Fund, paid for by the telecom companies in
    exchange for
    being deregulated. Arranged in 1983 under Reagan, and Expanded in
    2007
    under Bush to give the option of cell phones.
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    On 11/6/2012 3:22 PM, Frank Provasek wrote:
    On Nov 5, 11:03 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 8:52 PM, sgt23 wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:37 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a
    one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    Since we do republicans care what someone says,

    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier
    Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    You are citing on OPINION PIECE


    I am citing hard economic data, and here is some more:

    https://stutteringmessiah.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/thanks-obama-incomes-fall-30 40-during-recovery/

    Two of the groups hit hardest have been ones that turned out in
    abundance for Obama in 2008: black Americans and younger Americans
    (those between the ages of 25 and 34).

    During the first three years of the Obama “recovery,” the real median household income for black Americans dropped a whopping 11.1 percent.
    For Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 — the group most apt, as
    Paul Ryan put it, to be “staring up at fading Obama posters” and looking
    to “get going with life” — real median household income dropped 8.9 percent.

    Moreover, we’re still not headed in the right direction. Last month,
    American households’ real median annual income fell by another $543 —
    from $51,221 to $50,678.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    Newsgroups: az.politics,rec.collecting.coins,dfw.politics,wi.general,oh.general
    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On 11/6/2012 3:26 PM, Frank Provasek wrote:
    On Nov 6, 10:19 am, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/6/2012 7:33 AM, Frank Provasek wrote:









    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and >>>> shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    The "stimulus" FAILED, less than 4% went to shovel-ready projects, LESS
    THAN FOUR PERCENT!!!!!

    Now we have an open-ended 40 BILLION$$ a month from the Fed to infinity
    and beyond!!!

    IT FAILED!!!

    You taxaholic Dems are spending us into a full on national BANKRUPTCY!

    Taxaholic?


    Why yes, that's how we got to an additional 6 TRILLION$$$ of debt under
    Obama!

    http://online.wsj.com/

    Whether or not Americans choose to believe him, there's no denying the
    fiscal reality created by the rollout version of President Obama last
    year, as detailed in the Congressional Budget Office report released yesterday. For the second year in a row, fiscal 2010 will see a trillion-dollar deficit—an estimated $1.35 trillion, or 9.2% of GDP,
    which is down slightly from last year's post-World War II record of 9.9%.

    Mr. Obama's major contribution to deficits has been a record spending
    spree. In 2007, before the recession, federal expenditures reached $2.73 trillion. By 2009 expenditures had climbed to $3.52 trillion. In 2009
    alone, overall federal spending rose 18%, or $536 billion. Throw in a
    $65 billion reduction in debt service costs due to low interest rates,
    and the overall spending increase was 22%.

    In one year.

    CBO confirms that Democrats have taken federal spending to a new and
    higher plateau: 24.7% of GDP in 2009, 24.1% this year, and back to an estimated 24.3% in 2011. The modern historical average is about 20.5%,
    and less than that if you exclude the Reagan defense buildup of the
    1980s that helped to win the Cold War and let Bill Clinton reduce
    defense spending to 3% of GDP in the 1990s.

    This means that one of every four dollars produced by the sweat of
    American private labor is now taxed and redistributed by 535 men and
    women in Congress.
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    Newsgroups: az.politics,rec.collecting.coins,dfw.politics,va.politics,pa.politics
    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
    Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:53:43 -0700
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    On 11/6/2012 3:32 PM, Frank Provasek wrote:
    There are no free cell phones paid for by taxpayers.

    Tell this lady:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
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    From: Cade Larson <cdl@live.nail.com>
    Newsgroups: az.politics,rec.collecting.coins,dfw.politics,wi.general,mn.politics
    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On 11/6/2012 3:50 PM, Cade Larson wrote:
    On 11/6/2012 3:22 PM, Frank Provasek wrote:
    On Nov 5, 11:03 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 8:52 PM, sgt23 wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:37 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/5/2012 1:26 PM, Georgette Neff wrote:

    Watch the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnAE8olUxU

    The truth was right here all the time.

    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a >>>>> one-term proposition"—President Obama, 2009.

    Since we do republicans care what someone says,

    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier
    Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency >>> have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    You are citing on OPINION PIECE


    I am citing hard economic data, and here is some more:


    https://stutteringmessiah.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/thanks-obama-incomes-fall-30 40-during-recovery/


    Two of the groups hit hardest have been ones that turned out in
    abundance for Obama in 2008: black Americans and younger Americans
    (those between the ages of 25 and 34).

    During the first three years of the Obama “recovery,” the real median household income for black Americans dropped a whopping 11.1 percent.
    For Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 — the group most apt, as
    Paul Ryan put it, to be “staring up at fading Obama posters” and looking
    to “get going with life” — real median household income dropped 8.9
    percent.

    Moreover, we’re still not headed in the right direction. Last month,
    American households’ real median annual income fell by another $543 —
    from $51,221 to $50,678.



    http://online.wsj.com/

    New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census
    income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency
    have done enormous harm to middle-class households.

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and
    shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.
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    From: Domitius Corbulo <corbulo@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: az.politics,rec.collecting.coins,dfw.politics
    Subject: Re: Stop Obama
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    On Nov 6, 10:19 am, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/6/2012 7:33 AM, Frank Provasek wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and >>>> shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household
    income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted
    for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    The "stimulus" FAILED, less than 4% went to shovel-ready projects, LESS
    THAN FOUR PERCENT!!!!!

    The Stimulus saved an auto industry and jobs. IF you wanted to see the
    auto industry fail as one presidential candidate wanted to see happen,
    if you wanted to see people without jobs lose their homes as one
    presidential candidate wanted, then the stimulus failed. Good thing it
    did, good thing for the auto industry, good thing for those jobs it
    saved, a good thing. Somebody should shove that shovel of yours where
    the sun doesn't shine. That statement is too stale to have any affect.

    Now we have an open-ended 40 BILLION$$ a month from the Fed to infinity
    and beyond!!!

    IT FAILED!!!

    You taxaholic Dems are spending us into a full on national BANKRUPTCY!

    Taxaholic? Interesting how you make up names. Mind sharing your age with
    the group? We'll see if your prediction will come true or this one: This nation will never be bankrupt. We will go through hard times
    and good times and we will always prevail.

    And as it seems, more than 50% of the people agree with Obama and the Stimulus. Someone else beat me to this which is worth repeating:

    In February, 2009, Obama signed the American Recovery and Investment
    Act, which included $288 billion in tax cuts, arguably the largest tax
    cuts in American history. These cuts included a payroll tax credit of
    $400 per worker and $800 per married couple in 2009 and 2010, and an
    extension of revisions in the Alternative Minimum Tax, which saved
    middle-class Americans $70 billion. Additionally, the legislation
    included over $30 billion in tax cuts for American businesses.

    http://www.republicansforobama.org/firstterm

    Republicans For Obama, 12 million strong has been around since 2006.
    Read the blog. Let this election be a learning for you. Think more of
    your country than you hate your president. People can't help but see you
    as just another bigot.

    Corbulo is ready
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    In article <k7e6ub$ua2$1@dont-email.me>, Domitius Corbulo <corbulo@gmx.com> wrote:

    On Nov 6, 10:19 am, Cade Larson <c...@live.nail.com> wrote:
    On 11/6/2012 7:33 AM, Frank Provasek wrote:

    On Nov 5, 3:00 pm, Cade Larson<c...@live.nail.com> wrote:

    In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and >>>> shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household >>>> income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted >>>> for inflation. (See the chart nearby.) That's $4,019 in lost real
    income, a little less than a month's income every year.

    The September 2008 collapse caused about $4 trillion in wealth to
    disappear just in the United States. That's some
    $13,000 for every man, woman and child. To think that would not
    affect household incomes adversely for many years is foolish.
    If anything, the stimulus was not big enough to keep the economy only
    in mild recession.

    The "stimulus" FAILED, less than 4% went to shovel-ready projects, LESS
    THAN FOUR PERCENT!!!!!

    The Stimulus saved an auto industry and jobs.


    Typical leftist viewpoint.


    The important thing is that X is "saved", and all leftist initiatives are by definition, successful by leftist metric.

    The process is irrelevant, by any means neccessary, whatever it takes.

    In the case of GM, the bankruptcy was handled contra the Constitution, illegally. To the leftist, that's a feature, not a bug.

    Especially when they have a leader held in such cultish reverence. He can't
    do wrong, because that means you, the follower, is wrong. And no-one on the left has been wrong, about anything, ever. Historically, this sot of
    delusion ends badly.

    Note that "saving" GM meant violating the Constitution and oath of office, instead moving towards the worker owning the means of production, the
    mainstay of communism.

    And that was all directed by a man that, until he got this job, had
    experience in nothing but different shades of communism. Until he got this job, he had very, very limited exposure to the real world outside his ideological bubble.

    So given those clues and the history of leftist enterprise - how do you see
    it all working out in the long run?

    And what is the bestest and brightest leftist/communist place to live these days? Venezuela? Cuba? France? Is that where all American leftists spend
    their vacations? It must get crowded!
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