Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux on a dev VM. Any suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing it won't matter but seems like a
good first question before I get started.

Thanks,

x

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: xbit to All on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:18 am

Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux on a dev VM. Any suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing it won't matter but seems like a good first question before I get started.

Not really. I am running slackware and find it works well. Also debian, Synchronet always worked fine for me.

As long as you are comfortable with your distro you'll be fine.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hello xbit,

On Sun Feb 21 2021 07:18:16, xbit wrote to All:

Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux on a dev VM.
Any suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing it won't matter but seems like a good first question before I get started.

Probably not what you want to hear, but my suggestion would be to try out a bunch of distros and find one you like and want to stick with before taking the plunge. Any specific suggestions from others is only opinion on what they like best.

Questions that may point yourself in the right direction:

Do you care how bleeding edge said distro is? Do you want new features and security (rolling updates)?

Do you want to compile everything from scratch? Or would you prefer binary packages (faster)?

Do you want a GUI right from installation or not?

That might narrow down your list a little bit when you answer those questions. After that it would just be your own preference. Mind you, the list is still long even after those are answered, but then you can factor in which has better documentation/wiki and support, and whatever else tickles your fancy. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: xbit to All on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:18 am

Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux on a dev VM. Any suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing it won't matter but seems like a good first question before I get started.

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.
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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Al to xbit on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:29 am

Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux on a dev VM. suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing it won't matter but seems like

Not really. I am running slackware and find it works well. Also debian, Sync

Great info, thanks Al. BTW, great system name =)

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Digital Man to xbit on Sun Feb 21 2021 12:39 pm

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu. -- digital
man

Thx you DM and team.

-x

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Digital Man to xbit on Sun Feb 21 2021 12:39:09

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.

I agree with this. I have built and supported SBBS on Ubuntu 16.04 & 20.04 - works great....

Marisa
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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Marisag to Digital Man on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:21 pm

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.

I agree with this. I have built and supported SBBS on Ubuntu 16.04 & 20.04 - works great....

I just switched my primary system to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Strangely, I'm more happy with it and it works more solidly than my RHEL derivative I was running on.

Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Dream Master to Marisag on Sun Feb 21 2021 21:31:16

I just switched my primary system to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Strangely, I'm more happy with it and it works more solidly than my RHEL derivative I was running on.

I agree. I think there is a reason that Ubuntu is the most popular with people who just want things to work. Most of the people who don't like it seem to be those who want to install only what they want.

Marisa
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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Marisag to Digital Man on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:21 pm

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.

I agree with this. I have built and supported SBBS on Ubuntu 16.04 & 20.04 - works great....

Marisa

I agree! Ubuntu gets my vote. Then Lubuntu on my workstattion.

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Marisag to Digital Man on Sun Feb 21 2021 07:21 pm

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.

I agree with this. I have built and supported SBBS on Ubuntu 16.04 & 20.04 - works great....

Does it mean I'm bias if I agree with you Marisa? Being my board runs problem free on your system ;-)

... I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: HusTler to X-bit on Mon Feb 22 2021 07:49:44

I agree! Ubuntu gets my vote. Then Lubuntu on my workstattion.

I've been using Ubuntu iin the WSL on Win 10 the last few weeks, and I've been surprised how well that's worked. It's something to think of, especially as a dev envirionment. On Win10 HOME, I've even managed to get a ew Docker images running with various different envirionments..
YMMV

BoonDock

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Re: sbbs on *nix
By: HusTler to Marisag on Mon Feb 22 2021 07:52:23

Does it mean I'm bias if I agree with you Marisa? Being my board runs problem free on your system ;-)

No worries. :)

Marisa
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On 2/21/2021 8:18 AM, xbit wrote:

Going to start a sub project to convert xbit bbs to linux
on a dev VM. Any suggestions on what distro? I'm guessing
it won't matter but seems like a good first question before
I get started.

I'm partial to Debian/Ubuntu myself, but ymmv there. Ubuntu
generally has the most wide reaching support available.

Just a thought, and if you'd like some help getting started...
If you install Docker and docker-compose, I can have you up
pretty quickly... would be happy to walk you through it.

If you're on facebook or twitter can DM and can help walk you
through it over skype or something. Should probably take
under 15m from the point of the VM install. For reference
I moved my setup to a different VM/Host a couple times and
took under 10-15m each time.
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On 2/21/2021 1:39 PM, Digital Man wrote:

suggestions on what distro?

If you want one that "just works", I'd go with Ubuntu.

+1 on this one... Ubuntu has the broadest support base.
Which can be really helpful when you run into issues.
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On 2/22/2021 11:03 AM, BoonDock wrote:

I agree! Ubuntu gets my vote. Then Lubuntu on my workstattion.

I've been using Ubuntu iin the WSL on Win 10 the last few weeks,
and I've been surprised how well that's worked. It's something to
think of, especially as a dev envirionment. On Win10 HOME, I've
even managed to get a ew Docker images running with various
different envirionments..

WSL2 (not 1) + Docker Desktop have been incredibly great, using
an Ubuntu setup in WSL2 environment.

Just setup automated publishing of Synchronet images on Docker Hub.

bbsio/sycnhronet:latest (3.18b) or bbsio/synchronet:nightly
x64, arm7 and arm64 images available.
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Re: Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Tracker1 to xbit on Mon Feb 22 2021 03:57 pm

If you're on facebook or twitter can DM and can help walk you
through it over skype or something. Should probably take
under 15m from the point of the VM install. For reference
I moved my setup to a different VM/Host a couple times and
took under 10-15m each time.

That's a different kind of "DM" (i.e. not me). :-)
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Re: Re: sbbs on *nix
By: Tracker1 to BoonDock on Mon Feb 22 2021 16:03:01

WSL2 (not 1) + Docker Desktop have been incredibly great, using
an Ubuntu setup in WSL2 environment.

First, plese excuse typos
Second, I'm not comfortable enough with the Docker process to put anything *stable* or productionish out there yet. Getting there, but it's a process.
I think it has incredible potential though.
Also, the schandefreuder boner from MS actually having LINUX running almost natively is almost too much to bear. Those of us who were around for the beginnings of this thing of hours, it's such fun...

BoonDock

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On 2/22/2021 10:15 PM, Digital Man wrote:

If you're on facebook or twitter can DM and can help walk you
through it over skype or something. Should probably take
under 15m from the point of the VM install. For reference
I moved my setup to a different VM/Host a couple times and
took under 10-15m each time.

That's a different kind of "DM" (i.e. not me). :-)

lol, yeah, Direct Message...
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On 2/22/2021 11:49 PM, BoonDock wrote:

WSL2 (not 1) + Docker Desktop have been incredibly great, using
an Ubuntu setup in WSL2 environment.

First, plese excuse typos
Second, I'm not comfortable enough with the Docker process to put
anything *stable* or productionish out there yet. Getting there,
but it's a process.
I think it has incredible potential though.
Also, the schandefreuder boner from MS actually having LINUX
running almost natively is almost too much to bear. Those of us
who were around for the beginnings of this thing of hours, it's
such fun...

When installing WSL2, Windows' Desktop actually loads under Hyper-V
just like WSL, so it's as native as Windows at that point.

I do think there's a few points of integration that could stand a
little work. The magic port forwarding/mapping (almost everything
works from "localhost") is nice, but sometimes gets borked and then
you have to reboot. Also, would be nice if X and PulseAudio
integration was in the box, so running desktop apps was easier.

In general, couldn't be happier as a dev environment... actually,
if I could have gotten full VMs working in Linux on a bleeding
edge kernel in Linux without pain, that might have been slightly
more appealing to me, at the time needed the updated kernel for
hardware support, very new nic chipset(s).

It was interresting getting the cross platform (armv7, arm64)
builds working, which should make playing with an rpi infinitely
more easy to deal with (maybe m1 mac too). Had to wrap the dosemu
apt install separately so it wouldn't kill ARM builds where it's
not available.
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