• sbbsimsg

    From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to All on Fri Oct 9 18:28:24 2020
    Greetings All!


    I have been trying to get this going, well it works on the BBS what I cant seem to do is get my my bbs on the list... I have followed wiki to the letter, ports are open etc... But when running check system I get that I am not on the list. Not adversed to reading docs so if there is somewhere else besides wiki you can point me to Im happy to continue my search.

    Hope you are all well


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Fri Oct 9 22:33:52 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to All on Fri Oct 09 2020 06:28 pm

    Greetings All!


    I have been trying to get this going, well it works on the BBS what I cant seem to do is get my my bbs on the list... I have followed wiki to the letter, ports are open etc... But when running check system I get that I am not on the list. Not adversed to reading docs so if there is somewhere else besides wiki you can point me to Im happy to continue my search.

    Hope you are all well

    Are you talking about this BBS entry?

    "entry": {
    "created": {
    "on": "2020-09-16T04:48:11.232Z",
    "by": "Nitro",
    "at": "WORMHOLE"
    },
    "updated": {
    "on": "2020-10-10T05:11:34.889Z",
    "by": "Nitro",
    "at": "WORMHOLE"
    },
    "autoverify": {
    "attempts": 48,
    "successes": 0,
    "last_failure": {
    "on": "2020-10-09T07:51:06.325Z",
    "result": "No connect: 1001",
    "service": {
    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",
    "protocol": "Telnet",
    "port": 2321,
    "description": "Telnet"
    }
    },
    "success": false
    }
    }

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port doesn't match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements here: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    digital man

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 06:00:14 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Friday October 09 2020 22:33, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

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    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to All on Fri Oct 09 2020 06:28 pm


    "entry": {
    "created": {
    "on": "2020-09-16T04:48:11.232Z",
    "by": "Nitro",
    "at": "WORMHOLE"
    },
    "updated": {
    "on": "2020-10-10T05:11:34.889Z",
    "by": "Nitro",
    "at": "WORMHOLE"
    },
    "autoverify": {
    "attempts": 48,
    "successes": 0,
    "last_failure": {
    "on": "2020-10-09T07:51:06.325Z",
    "result": "No connect: 1001",
    "service": {
    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",
    "protocol": "Telnet",
    "port": 2321,
    "description": "Telnet"
    }
    },
    "success": false
    }
    }

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port doesn't
    match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements here: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    Forgive me but I do not see what is wrong thats my BBS's address, so I went on my bbs to look at the list and it does seem correct to me, I made one small change to my email address... However when I go to save it I get "JSON.parse exception: SyntasError: JSON.parse Edit aborted, so maybe what I have on this side never updated on your end?


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Sat Oct 10 12:53:00 2020
    Rick Smith wrote to Digital Man <=-

    "autoverify": {
    "attempts": 48,
    "successes": 0,
    "last_failure": {
    "on": "2020-10-09T07:51:06.325Z",
    "result": "No connect: 1001",
    "service": {
    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",
    "protocol": "Telnet",
    "port": 2321,
    "description": "Telnet"
    }
    },
    "success": false
    }
    }

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port doesn't
    match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements here: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    Forgive me but I do not see what is wrong thats my BBS's address,
    so I went on my bbs to look at the list and it does seem correct
    to me, I made one small change to my email address... However
    when I go to save it I get "JSON.parse exception: SyntasError:
    JSON.parse Edit aborted, so maybe what I have on this side never
    updated on your end?

    * Origin: ----> Abacus Sysop Point --->>>>bbs.abon.us:2323

    Dude. Are you blind?

    Look at what DM quoted up there. It shows your system as:

    wh2.abon.us:2321

    Now look at your origin line that I quoted above:

    bbs.abon.us:2323

    Do those two seem to be the same? FFS!


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Sat Oct 10 13:12:08 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 06:00 am

    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port doesn't match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements here: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    Forgive me but I do not see what is wrong thats my BBS's address,

    Which is your BBS's address? The BBS list has what I pasted above while your origin line says: bbs.abon.us:2323, different host name, different port.

    so I went
    on my bbs to look at the list and it does seem correct to me, I made one small change to my email address... However when I go to save it I get "JSON.parse exception: SyntasError: JSON.parse Edit aborted, so maybe what have on this side never updated on your end?

    Were you hand-editing the JSON? That's not recommended. There should be other menu options in sbbslist to change the values for your BBS list entry.

    digital man

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Gamgee on Sat Oct 10 20:21:24 2020
    Greetings Gamgee!

    Saturday October 10 2020 12:53, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    * Forwarded from area 'sync_sysops'
    Rick Smith wrote to Digital Man <=-

    "autoverify": {
    "attempts": 48,

    Dude. Are you blind?

    Dude besides rude have you heard of someone that has multiple boards?


    Look at what DM quoted up there. It shows your system as:

    wh2.abon.us:2321

    Yep thats the one in question


    Now look at your origin line that I quoted above:

    bbs.abon.us:2323

    Nope thats my mystic bbs which hardly applies to sbbsismg...


    Do those two seem to be the same? FFS!

    Nope because that would confuse my users... thanks for your help tho... so thoughtful and kind...




    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 20:23:52 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 13:12, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    * Forwarded from area 'sync_sysops'
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 06:00 am

    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port
    doesn't
    match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements
    here:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    Forgive me but I do not see what is wrong thats my BBS's address,

    Which is your BBS's address? The BBS list has what I pasted above
    while your origin line says: bbs.abon.us:2323, different host name, different port.

    you can use either wh2bbs.us or wh2.abon.us on port 2323 my origin below has a different bbs name even because this is the point for my other system. Not the SBBS bbs that I am trying to get figured out

    Sorry for the confusion.. this is just what I do my messaging on.


    Were you hand-editing the JSON? That's not recommended. There should
    be other menu options in sbbslist to change the values for your BBS
    list entry.

    Not at first I did it the traditional way but I did note a mistake and did it edit it but from within the editor in bbs list on my bbs, but as far as like nano, no I didnt...

    Maybe delete it and start over? I am just learning my way around SBBS so its completely possible I mucked it up...


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Sat Oct 10 23:40:52 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 08:23 pm

    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 13:12, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    * Forwarded from area 'sync_sysops'
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 06:00 am

    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",

    It's never been successfully verified and the address:port
    doesn't
    match your origin line. That's step one of the requirements
    here:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/module:sbbsimsg#requirements

    Forgive me but I do not see what is wrong thats my BBS's address,

    Which is your BBS's address? The BBS list has what I pasted above
    while your origin line says: bbs.abon.us:2323, different host name, different port.

    you can use either wh2bbs.us or wh2.abon.us on port 2323 my origin below
    has
    a different bbs name even because this is the point for my other system.
    Not
    the SBBS bbs that I am trying to get figured out

    Sorry for the confusion.. this is just what I do my messaging on.


    Were you hand-editing the JSON? That's not recommended. There should
    be other menu options in sbbslist to change the values for your BBS list entry.

    Not at first I did it the traditional way but I did note a mistake and did it edit it but from within the editor in bbs list on my bbs, but as far as like nano, no I didnt...

    Maybe delete it and start over? I am just learning my way around SBBS so its completely possible I mucked it up...

    sbbslist won't let you save invalid JSON, so it should be fine. The problem is that the information for your BBS entry can't be verified (no connection). When your BBS can be verified, then it may be added to the instant-message list.

    digital man

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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Sun Oct 11 09:34:00 2020
    Rick Smith wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Dude. Are you blind?

    Dude besides rude have you heard of someone that has multiple
    boards?

    Yep, sure. You made no mention of that in your previous post.

    Look at what DM quoted up there. It shows your system as:

    wh2.abon.us:2321

    Yep thats the one in question


    Now look at your origin line that I quoted above:

    bbs.abon.us:2323

    Nope thats my mystic bbs which hardly applies to sbbsismg...

    How was I (or anyone) supposed to know that?

    Do those two seem to be the same? FFS!

    Nope because that would confuse my users... thanks for your help
    tho... so thoughtful and kind...

    Write more clearly and you won't have so many problems.


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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Sun Oct 11 09:23:14 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 23:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 08:23 pm

    Maybe delete it and start over? I am just learning my way around
    SBBS so its completely possible I mucked it up...

    sbbslist won't let you save invalid JSON, so it should be fine. The problem is that the information for your BBS entry can't be verified
    (no connection). When your BBS can be verified, then it may be added
    to the instant-message list.

    Hmmm, not sure what to do then... It can be accessed literally in every other way with that address.


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Sun Oct 11 10:38:40 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 23:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 08:23 pm

    Greetings Digital!

    sbbslist won't let you save invalid JSON, so it should be fine. The problem is that the information for your BBS entry can't be verified
    (no connection). When your BBS can be verified, then it may be added
    to the instant-message list.

    So other SBBS syssops were able to send me telegrams manually (not sure if pertinent) so I deleted my entry and started over carefully verifying the information and when I viewed Json from within list editor all looked fine I hit ctrl Z to save and I got the Json parsing error.. My bbs is in the list on my end but not sure what is causing that error? I and others can ping my bbs, connect to my bbs, send mail, ftp, connect to it on the web etc...


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Sun Oct 11 19:06:43 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sun Oct 11 2020 10:38 am

    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 23:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 08:23 pm

    Greetings Digital!

    sbbslist won't let you save invalid JSON, so it should be fine. The problem is that the information for your BBS entry can't be verified (no connection). When your BBS can be verified, then it may be added
    to the instant-message list.

    So other SBBS syssops were able to send me telegrams manually (not sure if pertinent) so I deleted my entry and started over carefully verifying the information and when I viewed Json from within list editor all looked fine hit ctrl Z to save and I got the Json parsing error.. My bbs is in the list on my end but not sure what is causing that error?

    What editor are you using? Maybe it's adding something to the text.

    I and others can ping my
    bbs, connect to my bbs, send mail, ftp, connect to it on the web etc...

    The entry must be appear as validated at http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html before you can expect your system to be included in sbbsimsg.lst.

    Here's the last validation attempt results (from sbbslist.json):
    "autoverify": {
    "attempts": 52,
    "successes": 0,
    "last_failure": {
    "on": "2020-10-11T08:06:16.163Z",
    "result": "No connect: 1001",
    "service": {
    "address": "wh2.abon.us:2321",
    "protocol": "Telnet",
    "port": 2321,
    "description": "Telnet"
    }
    },
    "success": false
    },

    This tells me that yesterday, you had your Telnet address (hostname or IP address) set to "wh2.abon.us:2321". Since that is not a valid hostname or IP address, that would fail the verification attempt. The port number (in your case 2321), goes in a separate property/field. I see that now your entry has the address set to just a hostname without the :port, so perhaps tonight's auto-verification of your BBS entry will succeed. We'll see.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Mon Oct 12 11:13:19 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Saturday October 10 2020 23:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 08:23 pm

    Greetings Digital!

    sbbslist won't let you save invalid JSON, so it should be fine. The problem is that the information for your BBS entry can't be verified (no connection). When your BBS can be verified, then it may be added
    to the instant-message list.

    So other SBBS syssops were able to send me telegrams manually (not sure if pertinent) so I deleted my entry and started over carefully verifying the information and when I viewed Json from within list editor all looked fine hit ctrl Z to save and I got the Json parsing error.. My bbs is in the list on my end but not sure what is causing that error? I and others can ping my bbs, connect to my bbs, send mail, ftp, connect to it on the web etc...




    Seems that it's working for you now. I sent you a test telegram last week, but
    then, it is possible to send telegrams to a user@board even if they are not in the list as long as the ports are opened and the service is listening.

    ~Mortifis

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Mon Oct 12 06:31:24 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Sunday October 11 2020 19:06, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sun Oct 11 2020 10:38 am

    This tells me that yesterday, you had your Telnet address (hostname or
    IP address) set to "wh2.abon.us:2321". Since that is not a valid
    hostname or IP address, that would fail the verification attempt. The
    port number (in your case 2321), goes in a separate property/field. I
    see that now your entry has the address set to just a hostname without
    the :port, so perhaps tonight's auto-verification of your BBS entry
    will succeed. We'll see.

    quick question about this, could I being to failing validation because binkp.net doesnt see my bbs in the nodelist? I only ask and discovered this because while trying to help someone else with a bink problem found that binkp doesnt see either of my BBS's, when pinged it reports that neither of them are in nodelist.286 however latest nodelist.283 shows both in there? Anyhow I know this isnt a binkp echo I just wondered if it was possible that issue I was having getting verified could be linked to that?

    Thank you for your help


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Mon Oct 12 12:53:15 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Mon Oct 12 2020 06:31 am

    Greetings Digital!

    Sunday October 11 2020 19:06, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Sun Oct 11 2020 10:38 am

    This tells me that yesterday, you had your Telnet address (hostname or IP address) set to "wh2.abon.us:2321". Since that is not a valid hostname or IP address, that would fail the verification attempt. The port number (in your case 2321), goes in a separate property/field. I see that now your entry has the address set to just a hostname without the :port, so perhaps tonight's auto-verification of your BBS entry will succeed. We'll see.

    quick question about this, could I being to failing validation because binkp.net doesnt see my bbs in the nodelist?

    No.

    I only ask and discovered this
    because while trying to help someone else with a bink problem found that binkp doesnt see either of my BBS's, when pinged it reports that neither of them are in nodelist.286 however latest nodelist.283 shows both in there? Anyhow I know this isnt a binkp echo I just wondered if it was possible
    that
    issue I was having getting verified could be linked to that?

    No, not relation. In fact, your system is not in the imsg list as of midnight.

    digital man

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  • From Rick Smith@1:340/202.1 to Digital Man on Tue Oct 13 08:15:14 2020
    Greetings Digital!

    Monday October 12 2020 12:53, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Mon Oct 12 2020 06:31 am

    because while trying to help someone else with a bink problem found
    that binkp doesnt see either of my BBS's, when pinged it reports
    that neither of them are in nodelist.286 however latest
    nodelist.283 shows both in there? Anyhow I know this isnt a binkp
    echo I just wondered if it was possible that issue I was having
    getting verified could be linked to that?

    No, not relation. In fact, your system is not in the imsg list as of midnight.

    It appears to be working now.. So all is good? Thank you for your help, that is a slick feature.


    ----
    Regards,


    Rick Smith (Nitro)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rick Smith on Tue Oct 13 12:07:00 2020
    Re: sbbsimsg
    By: Rick Smith to Digital Man on Tue Oct 13 2020 08:15 am

    No, not relation. In fact, your system is not in the imsg list as of midnight.

    It appears to be working now.. So all is good? Thank you for your help,
    that
    is a slick feature.

    Yeah, all is good. I meant to say: your system is *now* in the imsg list.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:124/5015 to Rick Smith on Tue Oct 13 12:07:00 2020
    Rick Smith T¬

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