• Synchronet External Programs (Linux)

    From Zenobyte@1:103/705 to All on Wed Jul 3 18:46:54 2019
    Has anyone come across this?

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have to press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Zenobyte on Wed Jul 3 12:56:30 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zenobyte to All on Wed Jul 03 2019 06:46 pm

    Has anyone come across this?

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have to press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

    Do you have 10 or more programs available? If so, then hitting '1', the input function will need to wait and see if you are then going to hit '0' (for 10) or hit enter (for 1). If you hit '2', but you have less than 20 programs, then it's smart enough to know it doesn't need to wait for '0' or enter.

    This smart-numeric input is prevalent through-out Synchronet.

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Zenobyte on Wed Jul 3 13:14:06 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zenobyte to All on Wed Jul 03 2019 06:46 pm

    Has anyone come across this?

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have
    to
    press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

    Could it be that you have more than 9 entries? For instance, if you have 10 or
    more and you press 1, it doesn't know if you want 1 or 10, so it doesn't auto-enter for you in that case.

    Nightfox

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Wed Jul 3 16:42:26 2019

    On 2019 Jul 03 12:56:30, you wrote to Zenobyte:

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have
    to press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

    Do you have 10 or more programs available? If so, then hitting '1', the input function will need to wait and see if you are then going to hit '0' (for 10) or hit enter (for 1).

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and start numbering them from zero O:-)
    then we can still have two columns of five each but all will be hotkeyed ;)
    or maybe have leading zeros on single digit options?

    If you hit '2', but you have less than 20 programs, then it's smart
    enough to know it doesn't need to wait for '0' or enter.

    it there a way we can use letters or strings instead of numbers?

    )\/(ark

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Wed Jul 3 13:58:37 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Jul 03 2019 04:42 pm


    On 2019 Jul 03 12:56:30, you wrote to Zenobyte:

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have
    to press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

    Do you have 10 or more programs available? If so, then hitting '1',
    the
    input function will need to wait and see if you are then going to hit '0' (for 10) or hit enter (for 1).

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and start numbering them from zero O:-)
    then we can still have two columns of five each but all will be hotkeyed ;) or maybe have leading zeros on single digit options?

    If you hit '2', but you have less than 20 programs, then it's smart enough to know it doesn't need to wait for '0' or enter.

    it there a way we can use letters or strings instead of numbers?

    exec/xtrn_sec.js is pretty easily modified. Do what you like! :-)

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Wed Jul 3 17:52:30 2019

    On 2019 Jul 03 13:58:36, you wrote to me:

    it there a way we can use letters or strings instead of numbers?

    exec/xtrn_sec.js is pretty easily modified. Do what you like! :-)

    ROTFL!! somehow i knew you might say that, :) :) :)

    )\/(ark

    And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
    so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
    up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
    the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
    it off.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Wed Jul 3 14:34:44 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Jul 03 2019 04:42 pm

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and start numbering them from zero O:-)

    :) I don't think it would really matter either way. And the only reason things start at 0 for programming is due to memory locations and offsets. The first element of an array is at 0 because it's 0 away from the beginning (because it's at the beginning), the next one is 1 away, etc.. That makes sense from a programming point of view, but people naturally like to start numbering things starting with 1 for the 1st thing. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Jul 3 15:05:29 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Wed Jul 03 2019 02:34 pm

    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Jul 03 2019 04:42 pm

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and start numbering them from zero O:-)

    :) I don't think it would really matter either way. And the only reason things start at 0 for programming is due to memory locations and offsets. The first element of an array is at 0 because it's 0 away from the
    beginning
    (because it's at the beginning), the next one is 1 away, etc.. That makes sense from a programming point of view, but people naturally like to start numbering things starting with 1 for the 1st thing. :)

    Pretty sure he was kidding. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Zenobyte@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Jul 3 16:22:57 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 03 2019 03:05 pm

    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Wed Jul 03 2019 02:34 pm

    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Jul 03 2019 04:42 pm

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and
    star
    numbering them from zero O:-)

    :) I don't think it would really matter either way. And the only
    reason
    things start at 0 for programming is due to memory locations and
    offsets.
    The first element of an array is at 0 because it's 0 away from the
    beginn
    (because it's at the beginning), the next one is 1 away, etc.. That
    make
    sense from a programming point of view, but people naturally like to
    star
    numbering things starting with 1 for the 1st thing. :)

    Pretty sure he was kidding. :-)

    digital man

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    Makes total sense now that you say it. Thanks a bunch guys!! <3

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Jul 3 17:32:30 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 03 2019 03:05 pm

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and
    start numbering them from zero O:-)

    Pretty sure he was kidding. :-)

    Yeah, he probably was. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Zombie Mambo@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Thu Jul 4 14:53:43 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Jul 03 2019 04:42 pm

    On 2019 Jul 03 12:56:30, you wrote to Zenobyte:

    In the doors/external programs section, for some strange reason, I have
    to press enter to get into the first menu entry.

    Works without hitting enter from the second entry onwards though.

    Do you have 10 or more programs available? If so, then hitting '1',
    the
    input function will need to wait and see if you are then going to hit (for 10) or hit enter (for 1).

    sounds like we should be doing what all good programmers do and start
    number
    them from zero O:-)
    then we can still have two columns of five each but all will be hotkeyed ;) or maybe have leading zeros on single digit options?

    If you hit '2', but you have less than 20 programs, then it's smart enough to know it doesn't need to wait for '0' or enter.

    it there a way we can use letters or strings instead of numbers?

    )\/(ark

    And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn it off.
    ... Never lay an angry hand on a kid or an animal. It just ain't helpful.


    or... MOUSE SUPPORT

    (hell fires raise, bbs purests puke, and the bowels of the nethers swallow me whole)


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jul 4 21:45:14 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to mark lewis on Thu Jul 04 2019 02:53 pm

    or... MOUSE SUPPORT

    (hell fires raise, bbs purests puke, and the bowels of the nethers
    swallow
    me whole)

    Synchronet supports RIP, which has mouse support.. And RIP has been around for
    a long time. What's this about BBS purists?

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Fri Jul 5 18:43:00 2019
    On 07-04-19 21:45, Nightfox wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-

    Synchronet supports RIP, which has mouse support.. And RIP has been around for a long time. What's this about BBS purists?

    Yeah, I remember RIP being around in the 90s. Wanted to try it, but never had all the bits.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Jul 5 15:49:30 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jul 04 2019 09:45 pm

    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to mark lewis on Thu Jul 04 2019 02:53 pm

    or... MOUSE SUPPORT

    (hell fires raise, bbs purests puke, and the bowels of the nethers
    swal
    me whole)

    Synchronet supports RIP, which has mouse support.. And RIP has been around a long time. What's this about BBS purists?

    Nightfox

    I remember rip. i also remember it never really took off like people thought it
    would, at least not down here. I had rip enabled on my dial up in the mid 90's.

    BBS purists were not rip users.
    BBS purists prefered text, not ansi, and < 1200bps.

    Sound, Ansi mice, those were blasphemous!

    :)


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jul 5 20:11:24 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Fri Jul 05 2019 03:49 pm

    I remember rip. i also remember it never really took off like people thought it would, at least not down here. I had rip enabled on my dial up in the mid 90's.

    BBS purists were not rip users.
    BBS purists prefered text, not ansi, and < 1200bps.

    Sound, Ansi mice, those were blasphemous!

    :)

    I feel like RIP may have come a little too late. I first started seeing RIP appear around late 1993 or early 1994, and by then, the internet was just starting to get more popular. ANSI was already very common and widespread by then too. I also remember seeing at least one BBS in my area that used RoboBoard, which was another GUI protocol for BBSes. I think there was just one RoboBoard BBS client program though; it might not have been an open protocol like RIP was.

    Nightfox

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  • From Zombie Mambo@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Jul 6 14:12:50 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jul 05 2019 08:11 pm

    I feel like RIP may have come a little too late. I first started seeing
    RIP
    appear around late 1993 or early 1994, and by then, the internet was just starting to get more popular. ANSI was already very common and widespread then too. I also remember seeing at least one BBS in my area that used RoboBoard, which was another GUI protocol for BBSes. I think there was
    just
    one RoboBoard BBS client program though; it might not have been an open protocol like RIP was.

    Nightfox

    I remember robo board. I actually thought RIP was going to be really cool. I remember spending a lot of time making rip screens.

    But ANSI was just so cool. the perfect mix of modern meets classic.

    I want to say the stats on my board were less than 1% of people used rip.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Zombie Mambo on Sat Jul 6 12:46:26 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Sat Jul 06 2019 02:12 pm

    I remember robo board. I actually thought RIP was going to be really
    cool.
    I remember spending a lot of time making rip screens.

    But ANSI was just so cool. the perfect mix of modern meets classic.

    I want to say the stats on my board were less than 1% of people used rip.

    I wanted to make RIP screens for my BBS, but I never did.. I always felt like I lacked enough skills to even be a good ANSI artist. Also, as you said, it seemed like few users on my BBS used RIP.

    Nigthfox

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  • From Zombie Mambo@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Jul 16 19:26:57 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Sat Jul 06 2019 12:46 pm

    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Sat Jul 06 2019 02:12 pm

    I remember robo board. I actually thought RIP was going to be really
    co
    I remember spending a lot of time making rip screens.

    But ANSI was just so cool. the perfect mix of modern meets classic.

    I want to say the stats on my board were less than 1% of people used
    ri

    I wanted to make RIP screens for my BBS, but I never did.. I always felt
    li
    I lacked enough skills to even be a good ANSI artist. Also, as you said,
    it
    seemed like few users on my BBS used RIP.

    Nigthfox

    I got pretty good with TheDraw for ansi screens. still use it today. My bbs's were always themed and I tried to get creative but not overkill. There are some
    boards out there with so much damn ansi its annoying. I come from the 300baud days where everything was text so I don't really care for color, animation, etc.
    Except for door games.


    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jul 17 09:57:50 2019
    Re: Synchronet External Programs (Linux)
    By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Tue Jul 16 2019 07:26 pm

    I got pretty good with TheDraw for ansi screens. still use it today. My bbs's were always themed and I tried to get creative but not overkill. There are some boards out there with so much damn ansi its annoying. I come from the 300baud days where everything was text so I don't really care for color, animation, etc.
    Except for door games.

    I started with a 2400 baud modem. I never considered myself a good ANSI artist, but I liked trying to create my own menu screens. I always liked TheDraw, and I still tend to use TheDraw today. Sometimes I'll use PabloDraw though.

    Nightfox

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