I know there has been some debate about my request to adding a feature to beable to filter within the body of the newsgroups. Its a option, if you do not like then do not use it. Filtering out the good and bad messages using only the subject line does not always work. Some words being filter within the body of the email for example porn, sex or horney and this type of material should be on your bbs system in the first place. Filtering by the subject should remain as a option, but adding a second filtering option is better. It givves the tools the sysop need to do their job and takes very small effort to do it.
On 11/10/2020 8:41 AM, plt wrote:
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run an application or script against two files (headers and body) for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as smtp.
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run an application or script against two files (headers and body) for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as smtp.
Not sure if there's already something built in for this... and if there is, apologies. Just thinking something pretty generic could be used for this and beneficial. With the most generic action, of if either file is deleted, then it doesn't post, and puts a message out. This could be
used to support virus scans, etc as well.
be able to filter within the body of the newsgroups.I know there has been some debate about my request to adding a feature to
good and bad messages using only the subject line doesIts a option, if you do not like then do not use it. Filtering out the
example porn, sex or horney and this type of materialnot
always work. Some words being filter within the body of the email for
should remain as a option, but adding a secondshould be on your bbs system in the first place. Filtering by the subject
their job and takes very small effort to do it.filtering option is better. It givves the tools the sysop need to do
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run anapplication or script against two files (headers and
body) for messages
being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as smtp.
I know there has been some debate about my request to adding a feature to be able to filter within the body of the newsgroups. Its a option, if you do not like then do not use it. Filtering out the good and bad messages using only the subject line does not always work. Some words being filter within the body of the email for example porn, sex or horney and thistype
of material should be on your bbs system in the first place. Filtering by the subject should remain as a option, but adding a second filtering option is better. It givves the tools the sysop need to do their job and takes very small effort to do it.
application or script against two files (headers andOn 11/10/2020 8:41 AM, plt wrote:
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run an
smtp.body) for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as
The only real issue I see with filtering the message body for key words isthat 'innocent' messages (conversations) could get
filtered out, thereby failing to deliver someone's reply ... so, even ifthis feature were implemented (which would have to be
strict in its rules) I would not use it ... just sayin
~Mortifis
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to
run an application or script against two files (headers and body)
for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as
smtp.
The only real issue I see with filtering the message body for key
words is that 'innocent' messages (conversations) could get filtered
out, thereby failing to deliver someone's reply ... so, even if this
feature were implemented (which would have to be strict in its rules)
I would not use it ... just sayin
~Mortifis
It should not be a issue if it's done right.
Re: Re: Newslink.js filtering
By: plt to Mortifis on Tue Nov 10 2020 09:59 pm
no, he fucking described exactly what the issues would be.
Re: Newslink.js filtering
By: plt to All on Tue Nov 10 2020 03:41 pm
Well, then we wouldn't be able to have this conversation, it'd all befiltered. I don't see how adding another .can file with th
implementation would be good for filtering the body of message. Let's throwa few examples out there in how I understand the way
the .can files work, maybe I'm wrong but I just consulted the wiki againtoo.
'sex' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sex" in it, maybe it'snot spam?
'sex~' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sexy", "sext", "sexes",etc. 'sex*' - this is going to filter out any msg lik
"unisex", "desex", etc..
You need something far more complex then a .can file for this. But sincethis would only take 3hrs to code, according to you,
that's been programming since 1986, why have you been talking about it forthe last 48hrs instead of writting it?
Anyhow, I'm no programmer, and never said it was a bad idea (although Ihave next to no use for this), I would request we be abl
to enable/disable spamc/spamassassin for varios message areas (sbbsechomaybe) to be able to set different reject thresholds per
area and not just for the external mail processor. Then again, I wouldimagine that's probably not an easy task either. But as I
said, I don't have much need for that as I only get an occasional spam msgthrough the mail processor, and don't have newgroups
my board so I don't see much spam in the message areas so I've neverrequested such feature. And not being a programmer, I'd hav
to sit and wait until someone implemented it for me. But you on the otherhand, you should be able to tackle this.
-altere
Re: Re: Newslink.js filteringan application or script against two files (headers
By: Mortifis to Tracker1 on Tue Nov 10 2020 17:38:30
On 11/10/2020 8:41 AM, plt wrote:
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run
smtp.and
body) for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as
is that 'innocent' messages (conversations) could getThe only real issue I see with filtering the message body for key words
this feature were implemented (which would have tofiltered out, thereby failing to deliver someone's reply ... so, even if
be
strict in its rules) I would not use it ... just sayin
for years.It should not be a issue if it's done right.
no, he fucking described exactly what the issues would be.
just do not import old newsgroups full of spam.
you're mentioning mi5 victim. i dont believe that insane person has posted
plt_bot_omatic_fanity_filter.sem deleted itRe: Re: Newslink.js filtering
By: plt to Mortifis on Tue Nov 10 2020 09:59 pm
no, he fucking described exactly what the issues would be.
Sorry, I was not able to see you're reply because my new
(_{!}_)
:-P
filter that, plt
plt wrote to Mortifis <=-ap
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run an
plication or script against two files (headers andsmtp
body) for messages being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as
The only real issue I see with filtering the message body for key words isth
at 'innocent' messages (conversations) could getthis
filtered out, thereby failing to deliver someone's reply ... so, even if
feature were implemented (which would have to be
strict in its rules) I would not use it ... just sayin
It should not be a issue if it's done right.
Fitering within the body of the message is really a simple process since most computer lanuages already support string search function. The result of string result is happens very quick. For slowing down the process will depending on several factors, but pull the same newsgroup the 2nd time around if done correctly should not be a issue since newslink.js will start at the next message that was imported.
'sex' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sex" in it, maybeIf you have users under the age of 18 then you should have this on your bbs in the first place.
it's not spam?
'sex~' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sexy", "sext",
"sexes", etc. 'sex*' - this is going to filter out any msg lik
"unisex", "desex", etc..
mail processor, and don't have newgroups my board so I don't see muchIF people start doing their job by filtering and holding people accountable things get done.
spam in the message areas so I've never requested such feature. And
not being a programmer, I'd hav to sit and wait until someone
implemented it for me. But you on the other hand, you should be able
to tackle this.
Not true if it is done the correct way
Re: Re: Newslink.js filtering
By: plt to Mortifis on Tue Nov 10 2020 09:59 pm
no, he fucking described exactly what the issues would be.
Sorry, I was not able to see you're reply because my new plt_bot_omatic_fanity_filter.sem deleted it
(_{!}_)
:-P
filter that, plt
I was thinking it might be worthwhile to have a generic option to run an
application or script against two files (headers and body) for messages
being imported via qwk, ftn or newslink as well as smtp.
Not sure if there's already something built in for this... and if there
is, apologies. Just thinking something pretty generic could be used for
this and beneficial. With the most generic action, of if either file is
deleted, then it doesn't post, and puts a message out. This could be
used to support virus scans, etc as well.
i think years ago i asked rob how to filter newsgroup msgs for certain
spam by editing the .js file. i forgot how to do it and dont have the
old .js file.
anyways, if you did the 2 different files and ran scripts on them it
would really slow down msg import. depends on if you care about that.
'sex' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sex" in it, maybe it's notspam?
'sex~' - this is going to filter out any msg with "sexy", "sext", "sexes",etc.
'sex*' - this is going to filter out any msg like "unisex", "desex", etc..
Tracker1 wrote to MRO <=-
Beyond AV, being able to integrate better anti-spam with email and nntp would be beneficial as well. Training behaviors, etc. And while many would run without them, it would be a nice option.
Tracker1 wrote to Altere <=-
This is part of an argument I used against adding a "language filter"
for comments at a prior workplace...
Positive: That's fucking bad-ass!
Negative: May you swallow a huge pile of human excriment.
Beyond AV, being able to integrate better anti-spam with email and nntp
would be beneficial as well. Training behaviors, etc. And while many
would run without them, it would be a nice option.
I miss Procmail, would love to be able to run Synchronet's netmail
against it. I had a script called "Procmail Sanitizer" that would
strip out HTML and make pretty readable plain-text email, as well as filtering out a lot of script/possibly hostile links,etc.
Not true if it is done the correct way
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