• Re: Registry

    From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Oct 6 15:43:00 2020
    Rob,

    In the Windows registry? It's likely just the "Swindell" folder for the "Synchronet Control Panel" settings (registry keys and values). The Synchronet Control Panel stores its window settings (sizes, positions, fonts, etc.) in the Registry and you have to choose an "organization
    name" to place your application folder. I chose "Swindell" 20 years ago and have had no reason to change it. If my full name is somewhere in
    your Registry, it's probably just copyright information taken from the resources stored in sbbsctrl.exe. But you weren't very clear in your question, so that's just a guess.

    He's just bored and nosey. :P

    Daryl

    ... Why do we wash bath towels?? We're clean when using them.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    Synchronet The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Oct 6 15:56:17 2020
    I noticed when I was on Marisa’s Site, the Synchronet tools used for the Linux version of Synchronet, the recycle option sometimes wouldn’t work. Is that a bug in the software?

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."It's cold in here!" - LaTour...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Tue Oct 6 16:24:52 2020
    Re: Re: Registry
    By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 03:43 pm

    Rob,

    In the Windows registry? It's likely just the "Swindell" folder for
    the
    "Synchronet Control Panel" settings (registry keys and values). The Synchronet Control Panel stores its window settings (sizes, positions, fonts, etc.) in the Registry and you have to choose an "organization name" to place your application folder. I chose "Swindell" 20 years
    ago
    and have had no reason to change it. If my full name is somewhere in your Registry, it's probably just copyright information taken from the resources stored in sbbsctrl.exe. But you weren't very clear in your question, so that's just a guess.

    He's just bored and nosey. :P

    It does seem that way.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #14:
    Karl Childers: Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser blade. Norco, CA WX: 91.3F, 18.0% humidity, 9 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 6 16:26:48 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 03:56 pm

    I noticed when I was on Marisa's Site, the Synchronet tools used for the Linux version of Synchronet, the recycle option sometimes wouldn't work. Is that a bug in the software?

    Doubt it, but without more details (e.g. log messages), I can only guess.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #23:
    DSL = Digital Subscriber Line
    Norco, CA WX: 91.3F, 18.0% humidity, 9 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Oct 6 16:31:17 2020

    Re: Re: Registry
    By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 03:43 pm

    It does seem that way.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #14:
    Karl Childers: Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser blade. Norco, CA WX: 91.3°F, 18.0% humidity, 9 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    I’m just bored and like to start conversations. I love to talk to people.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 00:30:11 2020
    Re: Re: Registry
    By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 03:43 pm

    It does seem that way.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #14:
    Karl Childers: Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser
    blade.
    Norco, CA WX: 91.3F, 18.0% humidity, 9 mph E wind, 0.00 inches
    rain/24hrs


    I'm just bored and like to start conversations. I love to talk to people.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ... and here I thought you liked me, turns out you're just bored ... lol jk

    ---
    Synchronet posted via alleycat etrucker-runemaster web ui
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 7 12:45:11 2020
    Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is Synchronet
    also as well?

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 13:24:58 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 12:45 pm

    Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is Synchronet also as well?

    Who is "they"?

    The registry is just a database, an alternative to a bunch of .ini (or other configuration type) files as was used in versions of Windows prior to Windows 95.

    Windows 8/10 does have a bunch of (optional) "features" where your usage data is shared with Microsoft and their "partners" via the Internet (supposedly, securely). I don't think the registry is a germane aspect of that data sharing.

    No, there's no "spying" going on in Synchronet. You seem to be concerned with the fact that sbbsctrl stores some settings in the Windows Registry. This is just what is expected of Windows applications, it's nothing unusual or nefarious.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #1:
    Karl: I've killed Doyle with a lawn mower blade. Yes, I'm right sure of it. Norco, CA WX: 86.3F, 38.0% humidity, 10 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 16:01:11 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 12:45:11

    Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is
    Synchronet
    also as well?

    Yes, it's spying on you.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    Synchronet electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 7 14:28:39 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 12:45 pm

    Who is "they"?

    The registry is just a database, an alternative to a bunch of .ini (or other configuration type) files as was used in versions of Windows prior to
    Windows
    95.

    Windows 8/10 does have a bunch of (optional) "features" where your usage
    data
    is shared with Microsoft and their "partners" via the Internet (supposedly, securely). I don't think the registry is a germane aspect of that data sharing.

    No, there's no "spying" going on in Synchronet. You seem to be concerned
    with
    the fact that sbbsctrl stores some settings in the Windows Registry. This is just what is expected of Windows applications, it's nothing unusual or nefarious.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #1:
    Karl: I've killed Doyle with a lawn mower blade. Yes, I'm right sure of it. Norco, CA WX: 86.3°F, 38.0% humidity, 10 mph NNE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    Stories I’ve read on the internet. Spyware and Malware plus viruses as well.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 14:49:35 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 02:28 pm

    Who is "they"?

    Stories I've read on the internet. Spyware and Malware plus viruses as
    well.

    If you haven't realized yet, your questions are lacking in context and seem aimless. Try harder.

    Your original message asked this:

    Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is Synchronet also as well?

    Are you suggesting that Microsoft is writing Spyware and Malware? What makes you ask "is Synchronet also as well"?

    Are you just testing me to see how many pointless questions I will attempt to answer?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #1:
    ANSI = American National Standards Institute
    Norco, CA WX: 85.1F, 42.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 7 15:03:45 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 02:28 pm

    If you haven't realized yet, your questions are lacking in context and seem aimless. Try harder.

    Your original message asked this:

    Are you suggesting that Microsoft is writing Spyware and Malware? What makes you ask "is Synchronet also as well"?

    Are you just testing me to see how many pointless questions I will attempt
    to
    answer?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #1:
    ANSI = American National Standards Institute
    Norco, CA WX: 85.1°F, 42.0% humidity, 9 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs



    You think this is an exam that you have to study for? I’m the teacher and you’re the student? Far from it. I am just merely making a clarification here
    and just wanted to sift through the particles and barnacles of sand so I get a better and clearer understanding of the facts because there is a lot of misleading and fake news and stories out there that they make believable.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 16:07:51 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm


    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 02:28 pm

    If you haven't realized yet, your questions are lacking in context and seem aimless. Try harder.

    Your original message asked this:

    Are you suggesting that Microsoft is writing Spyware and Malware? What makes you ask "is Synchronet also as well"?

    Are you just testing me to see how many pointless questions I will
    attempt
    to answer?

    You think this is an exam that you have to study for? I'm the teacher and you're the student? Far from it. I am just merely making a clarification here and just wanted to sift through the particles and barnacles of sand so I get a better and clearer understanding of the facts because there is a
    lot
    of misleading and fake news and stories out there that they make
    believable.

    Maybe research/read *before* posting questions to me, specifically.
    For example: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/256986/windows-registry-information-fo r-advanced-users
    https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    If you don't actually care enough to do any research, don't ask me to explain it to you.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #24:
    Karl: Kaiser blade. I hit my mother upside the head with it. Mmm... Killed her.
    Norco, CA WX: 82.4F, 46.0% humidity, 9 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 16:46:09 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 04:42 pm

    If you don't actually care enough to do any research, don't ask me to explain it to you.

    That hackread was a good one. It's what I was trying to explain to you
    about
    spying.

    You asked me questions. You didn't explain, or try to explain, anything. Do you understand the difference?

    I don't need you to explain to me how Windows "spies on you" - I already have a firm understanding of that.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #24:
    DSZ = DOS Send ZMODEM (by Chuck Forsberg)
    Norco, CA WX: 81.2F, 51.0% humidity, 8 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 7 16:42:45 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm

    Maybe research/read *before* posting questions to me, specifically.
    For example:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/256986/windows-registry
    -information-for-advanced-users https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    If you don't actually care enough to do any research, don't ask me to
    explain
    it to you.

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #24:
    Karl: Kaiser blade. I hit my mother upside the head with it. Mmm... Killed her. Norco, CA WX: 82.4°F, 46.0% humidity, 9 mph NNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    That hackread was a good one. It’s what I was trying to explain to you about spying.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Oct 7 16:54:16 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 04:42 pm

    You asked me questions. You didn't explain, or try to explain, anything. Do you understand the difference?

    I don't need you to explain to me how Windows "spies on you" - I already
    have
    a firm understanding of that.

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #24:
    DSZ = DOS Send ZMODEM (by Chuck Forsberg)
    Norco, CA WX: 81.2°F, 51.0% humidity, 8 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs


    I’ve also heard and read that Linux and IOS spies on you too. Don’t you feel your privacy being invaded makes you feel uneasy in this way? Why do they have to know what we do on our computer? They say we have privacy but it’s just a word used to calm us down but at the same time worrisome. We live in a strange world with a lot of unorthodox rules that can bent like a piece of wire
    at any time.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Altere@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 19:18:48 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm

    If you haven't realized yet, your questions are lacking in context and
    seem aimless. Try harder.

    Are you just testing me to see how many pointless questions I will
    attempt to answer?

    You think this is an exam that you have to study for? I'm the teacher and you're the student? Far from it. I am just merely making a clarification here and just wanted to sift through the particles and barnacles of sand so I get a better and clearer understanding of the facts because there is a lot of misleading and fake news and stories out there that they make believable.

    To gain a better or clearer understanding, you must first grasp the concept of basic computer knowledge and how they work, not only hardware but software as well. And if you say that you do, your questions and responses most definetly do not portray that. You were asking about the registry, then talking about viruses of which are totally different. Furthormore, viruses and malware don't simply target Microsoft Windows, all OS's are susceptible.

    Do you need a firewall? I'm partners with Cisco and Fortinet among several others. :D

    -altere

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Altere on Wed Oct 7 17:46:58 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm

    To gain a better or clearer understanding, you must first grasp the concept of basic computer knowledge and how they work, not only hardware but
    software
    as well. And if you say that you do, your questions and responses most definetly do not portray that. You were asking about the registry, then talking about viruses of which are totally different. Furthormore, viruses and malware don't simply target Microsoft Windows, all OS's are susceptible.

    Do you need a firewall? I'm partners with Cisco and Fortinet among several others. :D

    -altere

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Athelstan BBS ■ athelstan.org ■ telnet:23 / ssh:2222


    I hear ZoneAlarm is the best one out there.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
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  • From Altere@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 20:14:47 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Altere on Wed Oct 07 2020 05:46 pm

    To gain a better or clearer understanding, you must first grasp the
    concept of basic computer knowledge and how they work, not only
    hardware but software as well. And if you say that you do, your

    Do you need a firewall? I'm partners with Cisco and Fortinet among
    several others. :D
    -altere

    I hear ZoneAlarm is the best one out there.

    I know I didn't specifiy but I was more so talking about hardware based firewalls, and trying to compare hardware vs software based firewalls is pointless. If you want to talk software based firewalls, I'd be more then happy to take this to another sub, but in the meantime just as examples, Cisco Umbrella or Trendmicro Endpoint Security imo would be far more superior and less bloated then ZoneAlarm. The "best" is a matter of opinion or from whatever review you read.

    -altere

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 20:05:56 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm

    You think this is an exam that you have to study for? I'm the teacher and you're the student? Far from it. I am just merely making a clarification here and just wanted to sift through the particles and barnacles of sand so I get a better and clearer understanding of the facts because there is a lot of misleading and fake news and stories out there that they make believable.

    It sounds like perhaps there are some basics of Windows that you don't understand. An application simply using the registry to store settings doesn't mean it's malware. It's just how Windows works.

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Oct 7 20:38:03 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:03 pm

    It sounds like perhaps there are some basics of Windows that you don't understand. An application simply using the registry to store settings doesn't mean it's malware. It's just how Windows works.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Then read this article DM made me read:

    https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 20:09:08 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 04:54 pm

    I've also heard and read that Linux and IOS spies on you too. Don't you

    I think that's about one of the most nonsensical things I've heard. How does Linux spy on you? How even does DOS spy on you? Most people don't even use DOS anymore, but back when DOS was used a lot, DOS PCs were not connected to the internet or another online system very often, so where would it have been sending your data? Also, what do you even mean by the OS itself spying on you?

    Many of the things you say & post here are vague, outlandish, nonsensical, or a combination thereof.

    Nightfox

    ---
    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 19:08:00 2020
    Stories I've read on the internet. Spyware and Malware plus viruses as well.

    Sounds familiar..."if I read it on the internet, it must be true".

    If you're that paranoid, and won't take steps to "pratice safe hex", then
    do us all a favor, and shut down your internet, format your hard drive,
    discard all your hardware and software, and go off into the digital sunset.

    Daryl

    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    Synchronet The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Oct 7 20:46:04 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 04:54 pm

    I think that's about one of the most nonsensical things I've heard. How
    does
    Linux spy on you? How even does DOS spy on you? Most people don't even use DOS anymore, but back when DOS was used a lot, DOS PCs were not connected to the internet or another online system very often, so where would it have
    been
    sending your data? Also, what do you even mean by the OS itself spying on you?

    Many of the things you say & post here are vague, outlandish, nonsensical,
    or
    a combination thereof.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    Funny that you bring that up. Now that you mentioned it, you people do the exact same thing to me and DM as well. You’re not perfect people and neither am I. But you claim to be though.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 7 21:45:00 2020
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    You asked me questions. You didn't explain, or try to explain, anything. Do you understand the difference?

    I don't need you to explain to me how Windows "spies on you" - I already
    have
    a firm understanding of that.


    I've also heard and read that Linux and IOS spies on you too.
    Don't you feel your privacy being invaded makes you feel uneasy
    in this way? Why do they have to know what we do on our computer?
    They say we have privacy but it's just a word used to calm us
    down but at the same time worrisome. We live in a strange world
    with a lot of unorthodox rules that can bent like a piece of wire
    at any time.

    I think you've sprained my brain.

    Seriously. Fucking. Speechless.

    It's like you don't even read/hear what people are telling you,
    and just go off on another blathering tangent.

    Will you just fuck right on off out of here?



    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    Synchronet Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
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  • From Altere@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 8 02:22:05 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:38 pm

    It sounds like perhaps there are some basics of Windows that you don't
    understand. An application simply using the registry to store
    settings doesn't mean it's malware. It's just how Windows works.
    Then read this article DM made me read: https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    I was under the impression that was for your reading pleasure to 'catch' you up so to speak, but I don't recall anyone 'making' or 'made' you read anything, you clearly only read what you want.

    -altere

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  • From Altere@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 8 02:34:30 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:46 pm

    I think that's about one of the most nonsensical things I've heard.
    How does Linux spy on you? How even does DOS spy on you? Most people
    don't even use DOS anymore, but back when DOS was used a lot, DOS PCs
    were not connected to the internet or another online system very
    often, so where would it have been sending your data? Also, what do
    you even mean by the OS itself spying on you?

    Many of the things you say & post here are vague, outlandish,
    nonsensical, or a combination thereof.

    Funny that you bring that up. Now that you mentioned it, you people do
    the
    exact same thing to me and DM as well. You're not perfect people and neither am I. But you claim to be though.

    What?! Seriously, what?! Don't worry about anyone, just please explain this. I really want to keep saying "what?!". You and DM in the same category, and claims of being perfect, and who is "you people"? Am I missing some of my feed, this makes me feel like I missed something.

    -altere

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 8 05:47:20 2020

    have

    I think you've sprained my brain.

    Seriously. Fucking. Speechless.

    It's like you don't even read/hear what people are telling you,
    and just go off on another blathering tangent.

    Will you just fuck right on off out of here?

    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL


    I seriously hope so that I sprained your brain along with everything else you ******* *******!

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Thu Oct 8 05:56:05 2020

    have

    I think you've sprained my brain.

    Seriously. Fucking. Speechless.

    It's like you don't even read/hear what people are telling you,
    and just go off on another blathering tangent.

    Will you just fuck right on off out of here?

    ... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL


    ты гребаный кусок дерьма ты гребаный мудак.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 8 08:10:28 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:38 pm

    It sounds like perhaps there are some basics of Windows that you don't
    understand. An application simply using the registry to store
    settings doesn't mean it's malware. It's just how Windows works.

    Then read this article DM made me read:

    https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    I'm well aware of those Windows 10 privacy options. And that article doesn't even mention the Wnidows registry.. I'm not sure how you're making the link that apps using the Windows registry means they're spying on you.

    Nightfox

    ---
    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Altere on Thu Oct 8 08:15:28 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: Altere to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 08 2020 02:22 am

    It sounds like perhaps there are some basics of Windows that you
    don't understand. An application simply using the registry to store
    settings doesn't mean it's malware. It's just how Windows works.

    Then read this article DM made me read:
    https://www.hackread.com/windows-10-is-spying-on-you/

    I was under the impression that was for your reading pleasure to 'catch' you up so to speak, but I don't recall anyone 'making' or 'made' you read anything, you clearly only read what you want.

    DM even said the Windows registry is just for Windows and application settings. It sounds like TM has misunderstood what DM was saying.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Altere on Thu Oct 8 08:16:15 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: Altere to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 08 2020 02:34 am

    What?! Seriously, what?! Don't worry about anyone, just please explain this. I really want to keep saying "what?!". You and DM in the same category, and claims of being perfect, and who is "you people"? Am I missing some of my feed, this makes me feel like I missed something.

    I don't think you missed anything. TM tends to twist things around and make stuff up.

    Nightfox

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    Synchronet Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 8 09:10:55 2020
    ...

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Oct 8 09:20:28 2020
    Read this story then:

    https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 8 12:24:41 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:10 am

    ...

    Another vague response. You didn't quote anything, so I don't know what specifically this is in response to, or what exactly you mean by "...".

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 8 12:59:08 2020

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:10 am

    Another vague response. You didn't quote anything, so I don't know what specifically this is in response to, or what exactly you mean by "...".

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com


    DM said earlier in the thread that Microsoft doesn’t produce malware. Well this story says just the opposite.

    https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Michael Long@1:103/705 to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Oct 8 14:39:57 2020
    From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet


    DM said earlier in the thread that Microsoft doesn’t produce malware. Well this story says just the opposite. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

    $ The Millionaire $
    You're referencing a propaganda article which was probably written by Richard Stallman and has little basis to reallity
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 8 15:24:27 2020
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Oct 08 2020 12:59 pm

    DM said earlier in the thread that Microsoft doesn’t produce malware. Well this story says just the opposite.

    https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

    That article is from GNU. Are you familiar with them? They're one of the biggest open-source groups, and they're associated with Linux. They tend to be fairly opinionated and very anti-Microsoft. They'll say things like "Microsoft's software is malware" (which is on that article), which might be an intentional exaggeration. Many dedicated Linux users openly say stuff like Microsoft & Windows is malware, because they don't like Windows, but that doesn't make it all true.

    One of their examples is that Microsoft imposes changes on their Windows users, and for that they call it "malware".. Although true, perhaps calling Windows malware for that is a bit of an exaggeration.

    So, you should take things you read with a grain of salt.

    Nightfox

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Gamgee@1:123/115 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 8 18:11:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Thu Oct 08 2020 12:59 pm

    DM said earlier in the thread that Microsoft doesnt produce malware. Well this story says just the opposite.

    https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

    That article is from GNU. Are you familiar with them? They're
    one of the biggest open-source groups, and they're associated
    with Linux. They tend to be fairly opinionated and very
    anti-Microsoft. They'll say things like "Microsoft's software is
    malware" (which is on that article), which might be an
    intentional exaggeration. Many dedicated Linux users openly say
    stuff like Microsoft & Windows is malware, because they don't
    like Windows, but that doesn't make it all true.

    One of their examples is that Microsoft imposes changes on their
    Windows users, and for that they call it "malware".. Although
    true, perhaps calling Windows malware for that is a bit of an exaggeration.

    Absolutely all true.

    So, you should take things you read with a grain of salt.

    He doesn't know how to do that, and never will.


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  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 10 15:04:02 2020
    On 10/7/2020 12:45 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
    Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is
    Synchronet
    also as well?

    The Registry is just a tree structured database... People don't like it, because it's often more difficult to export/import/save configurations
    than files on the filesystem. The registry doesn't magically enable any
    kind of spying, it's mostly just software configurations.

    Most (good) modern software tends to only store enough information on
    what to uninstall when an install program happens. Internal windows
    software often stores its' own configuration in the Registry.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 15:12:20 2020
    On 10/7/2020 1:24 PM, Digital Man wrote:
    Re: Registry
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Oct 07 2020 12:45 pm

    > Because they say Microsoft is spying on you through the registry, is
    > Synchronet also as well?

    Who is "they"?

    The registry is just a database, an alternative to a bunch of .ini (or other
    configuration type) files as was used in versions of Windows prior to Windows 95.

    Windows 8/10 does have a bunch of (optional) "features" where your usage
    data is shared with Microsoft and their "partners" via the Internet (supposedly, securely). I don't think the registry is a germane aspect of that data sharing.

    No, there's no "spying" going on in Synchronet. You seem to be concerned
    with the fact that sbbsctrl stores some settings in the Windows Registry. This is just what is expected of Windows applications, it's nothing unusual or nefarious.

    This reminds me of people terrified of browser cookies in the mid-late
    90's (and later).

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 10 15:17:13 2020
    On 10/7/2020 4:42 PM, The Millionaire wrote:

    That hackread was a good one. It’s what I was trying to explain to you
    about
    spying.

    Do you understand what you read?

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 10 15:34:04 2020
    On 10/8/2020 5:56 AM, The Millionaire wrote:

    ты гребаный кусок дерьма ты гребаный
    мудак.

    $ The Millionaire $

    OMFG, he actually *IS* a russian bot, we have proof... You won't steal
    my elections.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Tracker1 on Sat Oct 10 21:43:58 2020
    Re: Re: Registry
    By: Tracker1 to Digital Man on Sat Oct 10 2020 03:12 pm


    This reminds me of people terrified of browser cookies in the mid-late 90's (and later).



    HEY MAN I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. YOU PROBABLY WERE TOO!
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  • From Tracker1@1:103/705 to MRO on Sat Oct 10 22:17:30 2020
    On 10/10/2020 7:43 PM, MRO wrote:
    This reminds me of people terrified of browser cookies in the mid-late
    90's (and later).

    HEY MAN I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. YOU PROBABLY WERE TOO!

    I was not, I understood what cookies were/did and how they worked.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

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    Synchronet Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Tracker1 on Sun Oct 11 20:52:00 2020
    On 10-10-20 22:17, Tracker1 wrote to MRO <=-

    On 10/10/2020 7:43 PM, MRO wrote:
    This reminds me of people terrified of browser cookies in the mid-late
    90's (and later).

    HEY MAN I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. YOU PROBABLY WERE TOO!

    I was not, I understood what cookies were/did and how they worked.

    Same here, cookies were generally a good thing for me.


    ... Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Tracker1 on Sun Oct 11 07:44:36 2020

    On 10/8/2020 5:56 AM, The Millionaire wrote:

    OMFG, he actually *IS* a russian bot, we have proof... You won't steal
    my elections.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    � Synchronet � Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20


    I don’t want to steal your elections, I want to steal your soul. Worth way more money for me. Then I can sell it for millions and make a profit from it. <evil laugh> :-P

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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  • From The Millionaire@1:103/705 to Tracker1 on Sun Oct 11 07:47:02 2020

    On 10/8/2020 5:56 AM, The Millionaire wrote:

    OMFG, he actually *IS* a russian bot, we have proof... You won't steal
    my elections.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS

    ---
    � Synchronet � Roughneck BBS - coming back 2/2/20


    Typical Republican talking points.

    $ The Millionaire $

    ..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...
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  • From paulie420@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Sun Oct 11 20:14:00 2020
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
    You asked me questions. You didn't explain, or try to explain,
    anything
    you understand the difference?
    I don't need you to explain to me how Windows "spies on you" - I
    alread
    have
    a firm understanding of that.


    I've also heard and read that Linux and IOS spies on you too.
    Don't you feel your privacy being invaded makes you feel uneasy
    in this way? Why do they have to know what we do on our computer? They say we have privacy but it's just a word used to calm us
    down but at the same time worrisome. We live in a strange world
    with a lot of unorthodox rules that can bent like a piece of wire
    at any time.

    I think you've sprained my brain.

    Seriously. Fucking. Speechless.

    It's like you don't even read/hear what people are telling you,
    and just go off on another blathering tangent.

    Will you just fuck right on off out of here?

    NAH - I'm a Millionairre supporter.... I wish he'd tone back, and kinda get back into his OLD self where he posts less attention-seeking or .... those posts- but he needs BBSes and we need him. Maybe a little less of the
    taunting BS; and I wish he'd leave DM alone and stop pushing the real folks
    who give a lot to synchronet....


    but i like him around.



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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to paulie420 on Mon Oct 12 08:06:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I've also heard and read that Linux and IOS spies on you too.
    Don't you feel your privacy being invaded makes you feel uneasy
    in this way? Why do they have to know what we do on our computer? They say we have privacy but it's just a word used to calm us
    down but at the same time worrisome. We live in a strange world
    with a lot of unorthodox rules that can bent like a piece of wire
    at any time.

    I think you've sprained my brain.
    Seriously. Fucking. Speechless.
    It's like you don't even read/hear what people are telling you,
    and just go off on another blathering tangent.

    Will you just fuck right on off out of here?

    NAH - I'm a Millionairre supporter.... I wish he'd tone back, and
    kinda get back into his OLD self where he posts less
    attention-seeking or .... those posts- but he needs BBSes and we
    need him. Maybe a little less of the taunting BS; and I wish he'd
    leave DM alone and stop pushing the real folks who give a lot to synchronet....

    He's been given advice, he's been asked nicely to change his ways,
    and he ignores all of it. He's not gonna change.

    but i like him around.

    Honestly, I don't.


    ... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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  • From paulie420@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Mon Oct 12 11:27:00 2020
    He's been given advice, he's been asked nicely to change his ways,
    and he ignores all of it. He's not gonna change.
    but i like him around.

    Honestly, I don't.

    I know... I've been on both sides; I just wonder if he does this crap because he feels like hes in a corner as opposed to he really harbors ill will.

    Regardless, the posts are annoying. :P I just think....... hes a part of the community one way or another. Like you, I wish it would be another.



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